Thanks Patricia! The kitchen does not have that layout as pictured and the island is different. I should have erased that from the photo! Really just meant to focus on the patio door.

If you just focus on the patio door, it is fine where it is. But as you pointed out it has a relationship to the table. You will receive the most beneficial advice with accurate and up to date drawings.

There are other oddities in the kitchen, one of which is having to walk through a cabinet to get to a pantry space.

Hope this updated photo helps! Really appreciate your advice and professional opinions. If we do move the door over, how much do you think?

This is the cabinet/pantry idea I am hoping for...hope this makes sense! Clearly I am not an expert by any means...

Is there any chance the deck can extend across the length of the house? If so you could have two sliders or even one significantly larger slider. We have a 16' slider and both sides open. It is lovely.

If it cannot be changed then looking at yours as drawn I would want to stand facing the slider and pull it open from the left side with the door sliding toward the cabinets not toward where your great room is located. Only one side of the slider will open and I feel this spots makes it easily accessible for the great room and dining room.

Have you drawn all this to scale yet? It looks like you are pushing your kitchen into the hallway/circulation space and you also won't have much room for a standard dining room table once you add those built-ins. I would also draw in scaled furniture to see how much room you have for great room furniture.

How does playing tetris with the door and kitchen effect the exterior elevation?

"Hope this makes sense!"

It does not make sense to me. The cabinet becomes pure circulation, decreasing the efficiency of the design. It wold be more efficient to make the walkthrough cabinet a cabinet, and the pantry space accessible from the hallway.

The island is sized to raise the concerns of what it will be made of and where the seam(s) will be?

If you post the entire floor plans for review, I am sure you will receive a lot of good advice.

Center the sliding doors on the table. So figure out the width of the table and how much space for chairs. Forget the hidden pantry door that’ll cost $$$. When it comes time to order cabinets, a kitchen designer will help- or start a kitchen post here. There’s plenty of space for a functional kitchen.

The Kitchen Designer should be involved when the house is being designed.

Draw in a to scale dining room table with chairs. I think that will make you want to move the patio door as you are asking about so you can more easily get out the doors and people can be at the table and with the doors still accessible.

While I love the idea of hidden entry to your pantry, same comment as above. It seems a table and chairs will block entry. You can still make a "hidden door" from the hallway. I imagine pantry goods being accessed at all times for snacks or when having people over. So you do not want the person sitting at the table to have to move to access the pantry. Maybe my sense of scale is off and there is enough space.

Try drawing in your table with the chairs to get a more clear sense of whether the table and chairs are in the way or not.

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I agree with the others: move the pantry door to the hallway to free up some of the action in the dining area. Also, I would personally move the sliding doors out of the dining area to in between it and the great room (extending the patio). I also wouldn’t do 24” deep cabinets in the dining area - 15-18 is plenty deep enough for most things and leaves you more space for your dining furniture.

I think you also need some guidance for your kitchen design - like not having an island larger than a single slab (to avoid having a sea), moving the DW out of the primary work area, choosing the right fridge, planning for seating that doesn’t block the walkways