Second attempt submitting a post. Marquest, Wow, you weren't kidding when you said Petunia seeds germinated..Your 'denia plant is filled with beautiful, purple Petunias. One year, Petunia seeds dropped in my citrus. The seeds germinated in winter, but nowhere as nice as yours. Or filled as yours. Mine had three pink blooms. Do you add dry or fresh fir needles in your plants? Where is the Gardenia trunk??? PM, The Fragrant Forum has a ton of information on hardy and tropical Gardenias. Some threads are passion-packed...when a member is having problems with their 'denias. PM, don't get me wrong, I love computers. Electronics in general..Example, light bulbs. :) But, I feel our society is too dependant on the net. As a child we 'walked' to the library. I do admit researching online is much easier than dressing, walking, then sorting through a zillion books to find information on one particular subject. So, guess I'm a little old-fashioned. lol I love reading, but refuse to get Kindle. Amazon emails weekly, reminding me this electronic device exists. My dh makes fun when another email comes in. Especially since I spend so much time online. Guess I'm a hypocrate...lol Logee's! In the mid-90's, I ordered from Logee's religiously. Back then, plants were shipped in 4" pots, well-rooted, and shipping wasn't all that much, though it was higher than other nurseries. Problem was, I didn't know of other nurseries. Don't know if Logee's sold my name, but I started getting catalogs from other nurseries. Two of my favorites were Stokes Tropicals and Mellinger's. Nowadays, you'd have to get a loan to order from Stoke's, and Mellinger's went out of business, in the early 2000's. Back to Logee's. In early 2000's, they changed. Plants were shipped in 2"-2.5" pots, barely rooted. Shipping outrageous. Via one order I bought a citrus. If you ever saw a photo of Logee's citrus, you'd be placing an order. What arrived was a 3" stick. Oh, crap happens. So, I gave them the benefit of the doubt. A couple orders later, plants were arriving in awful condition. I finally phoned. Customer Service Reps are very nice and helpful. They sent a replacement plant which arrived large, well-rooted. Why didn't they send a plant that nice in the first place? After another order or two, I said, heck with this nursery. Their over-priced plants aren't worth it. I can get the same plant on Ebay or most online stores, for half the price, and much larger in size. I will admit. I ordered a Thanksgiving Cactus, 'Aspen,' that's impossible to locate. A seller on Ebay sold Aspen cuttings. He made a small fortune. One buyer paid $94 and change plus shipping. So, I ordered the TC and a Begonia from Logee's. My bill was over 30.00. Anyway, that's the Logee's story. lol You sure are experienced with plants. Perhaps, one day, you can give me some outdoor garden tips. Because of back/knee problems, the last two years our garden has been duds. Weeds do fine though. lol. Well, let's say I've been growing indoor plants at least 25-yrs. I first got hooked as a child, when we'd go to my aunt's farm in MI. My MOTHER didn't allow plants indoors, but I managed to sow veggie seeds at 11-yrs. My first house plants were given to me as gifts when I moved out of the house at 18. They died..too much lovin'. PM, it's really nice talking to you. Mike...here you are.... Gardenia's are like the old saying...a watched pot never boils..Mike,, you must stop watching. :) Oke-e-doke, once your 'denia produces, you owe us a photo or two. Hugs, Toni PS: PM, please don't take offense regarding Excel. :_

They not only bring them back but they bring them back in good shape. If pbulbs are wrinkled because of lack of watering, I cut them off. Everyone knows by now how to take care of them, its only for a couple of weeks at the most as they get them some time after they started blooming so usually less than 2 weeks away from my care. Anyway, it does not seem to be a problem, I always get them back. Is there room for more? Is the Pope Catholic? Will Rush find more ways to rant and rave against Obama? Of course there is, there is always room for at least a few more. Big Bob just did me a big favor, so his recent transgression is forgiven. One of my daughter's 26 foot motor home was parked just inside the fence, street parking is not allowed in both her and my neighborhood. He crawls under that to escape the mid day heat. Recently he did minimal damage to the retractable step. It was obviously necessary to move the motor home just outside the fence which makes the side yard a little smaller. What good is a front/side yard anyway? All you do is spend money on it, lawn care, flowers etc, totally useless. Now the MH sits snugly in a corner, back to the house, side to the fence. The beauty of all this is that it frees up a great new growing area, full sun all day, no human factors to deal with at this time. I have to move fast before the more normal Homo Sapiens of the household find a use for this space such as BBQ, table and lawn chairs etc. It can be done, I'm going to start this week end. Nick

I have this very same situation happening to me all the time at work. Only I'm the quiet one. There are two people in two different offices near mine, one male and one female, who both have what I call "strident" voices. They, as you say, project very well. Their voices are loud and strong, particularly when they are on the phone. The noise is quite disrupting and distracting to me. I haven't had the nerve to close their doors. I wish I did. When they are really really ticking me off, I finally get up and close my door, tune in soft music on my computer, and/or turn on my tiny heater/fan. All to mask their noise. And fume to myself that they have the ability to bother me like that. It's gotten so bad that I have to force myself to be civil to one of them. She just irks me so, especially when she is working on her computer and talking to someone on the phone via the speakerphone option. Augghhhh! That really drives me nuts because then she talks even louder. In a small way, I sympathize with you because you say you just speak loud naturally and don't mean to offend. On the other hand, since you have become aware that it apparently bothers others, I suggest that you investigate every option available to minimize the disturbance you create.

Benjesbride, where does she lose the 2"? It appears that she is not aware of the loss. Rebeccamomof123, are you pulling permits to do the work, or do you live in an area where the city/town/county inspectors are going to become aware of the work and expect to come in and inspect it? Or is your area more like where I live and anything short of an addition is something that no one will notice and that inspectors don't drop in when workmen are around unless it is really obvious that a big job is being done? The reason I ask is that your clearance for the toilet-to-tub distance is right on the edge of being okay. Some towns will not let you get that close. If you could get inspected by the code enforcement officer, or if you are doing this with permits, you need to draw this up and get it approved before assuming it is going to be approved. If you need to steal back a couple of inches to make it fit, one option is a wall-hung toilet. Your contractor opens up the wall behind your toilet and puts the tank and flushing works inside the wall (not the stuff you have, it is custom made for this purpose) and then the toilet part actually hangs off the wall and never touches the floor. It is much nicer for cleaning. All of Europe has been doing it this way for years, I hear. http://www.geberitnorthamerica.com/en_us/target_groups/enduser/products_enduser/toilets_2/concealed_systems_1/for_toilets_1.html