Westsider, Thanks for jumping in here !! Your place sounds great. I sure wish I was on your family list. ;) I also appreciate all of your comments. You have given me a lot to think about. More below to you (and anyone else who wants to comment)... I really appreciate everyone who is helping me with all of these ideas. Our builder said last week "That new layout looks good, sometimes it takes another set of eyes to see something, especially after you look at something for so long". That's what you guys are doing for me ... being my extra set of eyes and helping me think what is important to different groups of people. Good news from the builder ... he said yes to the bumpout behind the lower cabinets over the stairs ! That makes design #05 (a few posts up) officially ok from the builder. 1. have 2 or 3 outside beach showers ... do you mean hot & cold showers or just cold for rinsing sand off from beach ? We have planned 1 cold on the walk over the dunes and 1 hot & cold enclosed shower. 2, 3, 4. do you have some ideas for layout in these areas ? Would love to see what you are thinking. 5. weddings are probably not too frequent 6. Grilling - this is an issue. We will not be able to control if people ignore with portable grill, but rules will not allow a built in grill or homeowner provided grill on the deck. We have plans for the ground floor grilling area to be a fun gathering place though with a tiki bar, picnic tables, pingpong and foosball, horseshoes, in addition to the grills. Two grills is great idea !! Good idea also to plan storage for grill tools and mitts near the grills. 9. Will review to make sure stuff stored on high shelves is rarely used stuff. Looking like some of the high shelves will even be empty. Who knows - once it is unpacked, stuff has a way of filling the available space. LOL !! 10. Lot is 50 x 150 ocean front. With 7 foot setbacks for each side of lot, neighbor houses are 14 feet away from each other. 11. two washers & dryers - yep ! 12. elevators - will ask about property insurance - a neighbor has an automatic gate operator (which cost a lot extra) and had problems with renters messing up his door and lots of service calls, so he eventually disconnected his auto opener. We know now to not spend extra for the auto opener. 13. your property taxes are outrageous !! Luckily, we are on flat rate here ... approx 1% of home value. lakehouse, leaving now to go meet a friend for movie, but will check out your plans later. Looks like you are remodeling kitchen for a lakehouse you already own ? Thanks !! Keep the comments coming on all areas of the home !

I like that the island lines up with the counter and leaves plenty of space between it and the table, plus leaves a nice traffic lane from the patio door. If it's wide enough for the seating you require, I think it's fine.

Mark, I realize there is no malice that is why I included the free pass & LOL I was just pointing out the differences. For future reference if you want to irritate a Timber Frame owner just call it a post and beam. If I was to guess I do not think there are a lot of Timber Frame designers or owners here. It is an entirely different animal which lends credence to your statement, "that the method of construction influences the design of the structure, which it seams few people realize. " I am still all in on your your amazingly appropriate statement, The structure creates "square hole" that do not fit Houzzer's "round pegs". it sums it up the best. On another note remember " prarie" how about seams? seems :)

Hi everyone, sorry for the late reply, I've been traveling and thinking about your comments. I've been checking and thought that it might not be necessary to have the trashcans next to the sinks, but to have them UNDER them (still being pull out trashcan). With such large sinks it will even be possible to have one opened while someone is using the sink. Check the photos below: If I go this way, then I save a lot of space next to the sinks, which would allow me to add another dishwasher (something a lot have mentioned to be something very nice to have). Dishwashers below in blue. What do you think about the location of both dishwashers below? Bear in mind what will be stored in the drawers in the island space to give your opinion about placement (all the measurements are in centimeters in this case). Regarding oven placement, please check the photos below. What would be the ideal height to have everything at a comfortable reach? Next to the microwave I plan to have a space for a nespresso machine and maybe a toaster. (LV in the above photo would be the dishwasher)