Need help - kitchen design?

4 years ago

Hello All,

I am in the process of buying a home. I have locked down on the desired community and most of the homes in east bay are old homes with similar layout. It might seem too early to ask for design of kitchen, but it is essential for me to even consider putting an offer on a home only if I will be able to create my dream kitchen. I do not have measurements but have a picture of a sample kitchen. Would greatly appreciate if I could get pointers as to how i can build a walk-in pantry along with an island. Thank you.

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mama goose_gw zn6OH

4 years ago

Given the limited info provided, but looking at the appliances and cabinets, I'll say 12 x 12 kitchen area. Forget the walk-in pantry and go for an island, with prep sink, so you can prep facing the glass doors.

I made the cabinets on the fridge/range wall extra deep, to accommodate a standard-depth fridge. If I'm off by a few inches, everything can be adjusted.

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JAN MOYER
4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago
Your question can not be answered on this forum, nor any other. You have a couple of pictures, no dimensions. No floor plan of the entirety of this home No mentioned budget for the "dream," either. Buy it, don't buy it. .........but your buggy is way out in front of your horse.
artemis_ma
4 years ago
Looks like a wide-angle camera lens, which doesn't help. Is this one large room with kitchen, dining, living open space? You will need at least rough measurements, and what other rooms go where.
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emilyam819
4 years ago
Looks like a pantry can go where the fridge wall is and the kitchen and island can extend into what is considered the dining area. You’d probably have to be willing to move/add windows.
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Patricia Colwell Consulting
4 years ago
IMO walk in pantries are a waste of space but I do agree the cart is way before the horse . Any space can be made to be something else but the budget has to be decided .This space seems to me to be a gut to the studs in the kitchen , new flooring new lighting getting rid of the textured ceiling so if you are prepared for all of that in just this one space then adjust your offer on the house to reflect the amount of work to make this your place. Once you have bough it then come back and get design advice.
live_wire_oak
4 years ago
Figure 50-150K for a new kitchen, and shop (virtually) with that in mind. If you’re actually going from house to house right now, I have no words. No, I have 2. Stay Home!
revaselva
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4 years ago
live_wire_oak
4 years ago
You don’t own a screwdriver or tape measure, and have never even painted a wall, amirite?
revaselva
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4 years ago
added are some of the additional pictures of the kitchen and dining area. Yes, this layout is a combined one big room with kitchen and dining area on one side and Family room on the other side. Yes, at this point, I do not have dimensions. But when trying to buy a home in bay area (SFO, CA), which is the most expensive places to live in. I am trying to be proactive to know if my money is worth putting in to fulfill my dream. Yes, I do understand that it is a bare bones home and whole kitchen has to be remodeled. Sincerely thank everyone who responded to my post. And would appreciate any general ideas, to point any feasibility of adding a pantry to this layout without the dimensions and where the potential locations could be.
Buehl
4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago
I'm sorry, but we don't have enough information to even really guess. Just speaking of the design, It's all about the measurements, the overall layout of the home (all rooms), and how you plan to use your space.

Read the Layout FAQ to see what we need. Any guesses people make right now are WAGs, and really big WAGs.

(WAG = Wild A** Guess)

Excerpt from the "Read Me" thread:

(1) If you would like layout help...first, please read the Layout Help FAQ. Then post a fully-measured layout (all wall segments/windows/doors/doorways) of the space and a sketch of the entire floor. [Also see "Work Zones, What Are They?", "Aisles Widths, Seating Overhangs, etc.", "Storage Planning", and "Ice.Water.Stone.Fire"]

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I echo Live Wire Oak -- both the estimate -and- the "recommendation" to STAY HOME!

The estimate should give you an idea of how much you'll have to spend, figure 100K at least if you're aiming for a dream Kitchen and b/c you live in a HCOLA.
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