Vege patch layout ideas
Bernard K
4 years ago
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
4 years agoBernard K
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Dumb idea to incorporate Butterfly stuff w/veggie patch?
Comments (20)Please don't a be guilty of 'entrapment' however. If there are lures for butterflies in your vegetable garden, you will have to be very careful not to poison them with any contact insecticides you might use on your vegetable plants. Some people think of 'butterfly gardens' as only where the butterflies come to visit the flowers, but it's also going to be where they lay their eggs. I had a customer who wanted me to assemble all the plants needed for a butterfly garden and I got a call from her later in the season saying her plants were full of 'worms' and she wanted to know how she could kill them. After she described them to me, I informed her they were caterpillars from the butterflies and she should leave them alone. It never dawned on her that would be the natural course of events....See MoreWhat vege's are NOT suseptible to Root-Know Nematodes?
Comments (15)I did have serious rt nematode damage for the last 2 years. I did a lot of research, added a lot of soil and peat moss and compost to a new veggie patch, but that wasn't really successful.Did soil solarization, not happy with the results. Planted french marigolds, had them tilled in, no results. Later I found out they don't help against root knot, but against sting nematodes. Great! So more research was done and I found some university articles about the covercrop Crotalaria juncea L. This is being used commercially with nematode issues. So this summer I had and still have this plant growing. One veggie patch got tilled in with the plant leaves so far and the tomatoes I sadly had to pull (yellow leaf curl virus due to ficus white fly) showed no damage to the roots. All but one plant on the far corner had some little galls. And the plants did grow much better than in spring. Back to the topic: I grow Amaranthus dubius without having nematode issues. Broccoli did work fine as well....See MoreLayout ideas/assistance please...
Comments (36)DH here...Thank you everyone for your suggestions so far. I'm here to fill in some of the technical challenges we face. The soffit over the stove/window/slider contains waste pipes from bathroom above and vent for plumbing. Wall between kitchen and FR with cut-out is load bearing, so we may need a post there to support the wall between LR and FR. Directly below floor in aisle between island and stove are the hot water lines from the furnace to the Kitchen/FR/LR. As Pam (ptyles) mentioned the ceiling in basement is open due to water leak when we moved in. All plumbing from sink/DW go into basement utility room with open ceiling. We would like to keep a door to the deck from the kitchen. We use the deck and grill a lot, so we want easy access to the deck. I do like the idea of putting the cooktop on the outside wall for venting. (we made a mistake in our last kitchen remodel with venting, and we learned our lesson). We keep going back and forth on island/peninsula. We were spoiled by having a 6' island with room for 5 seats in our last house, so we're having trouble getting past that. We're close though :)...See MoreIdeas on our layout? (picture options)
Comments (23)Coming in late....I tried to read all the replies so hopefully I didn't miss anything....but, what was wrong w/the range on the wall? I liked the Tuesday layout better than these with the exception of the aisles. I think if you narrowed the island and eliminated one side for seating it would work. Without a layout showing aisle widths, etc., it's difficult to rate these new layouts. Of the two new ones, I prefer the second one (U), but I would see if I could move the range back to the wall; the DW drawers could go to the peninsula. Personally, I don't like a range/cooktop in islands or peninsulas b/c of: (1) safety issues (somewhat addressed by raising the bar...but still not enough room b/w seats & range top...should have at least 24" b/w the people and the back of the cooktop/range...i.e, 24" of empty counter b/w them) Think of your children eating or doing homework (or crafts) sitting at the island or peninsula with hot grease splattering or hot steam billowing out from a pot..... (2) venting issues...yes, you can use a downdraft, but they're only slightly more useful than a recirculating hood for the back burners and useless for the front. You could use an island hood but they're much more expensive, often difficult to vent outside, and cut into the view b/w the kitchen & other rooms. (3) eliminates the nice big expanse of counter space for spreading out kids' projects or for baking or other large-scale prep needs. I do notice that you have two living areas and three eating areas (two tables + island) Do you really need all those eating areas? OR are you turning the bay area into yet another living area? Could any of them be used to expand the kitchen somewhat: ...the bay area b/w the FR & Kitchen ...eliminate seating at the island ...push the table & chairs further into the LR & add more walk-way area b/w island & table thereby allowing a wider island Just some thoughts. I understand your desire for more of everything but with your limited space & it's fixed configuration, I think you need to evaluate what you really need & want overall for the entire first floor and then plan how to handle the kitchen. Good luck!...See Moreannpat
4 years agofloral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
4 years agoannpat
4 years agoRichard Brennan
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