Help Deciding Kitchen Layout
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Help with deciding a small kitchen layout
Comments (19)Debrak, it is good to hear that it is not too difficult to move the plumbing or drain lines. We do have a basement bath about 10ft north of the sink. I am not sure how feasible it is to tie in the drain lines. As you can tell, we are definitely not DIY! Kudos to you and other DIYers. Sena, thanks for the heads up on the toe kick drawers and storage options. It will probably have to be toe kick heaters as there is hot water radiator running on the far wall. Buehl, we have so much difficulty finding good contractors who aren't super expensive and atleast somewhat competent and efficient. Lavender_lass, our neighbors are so close on both sides-we will probably reach into their yard with a bay! A general question- do you think I should write up two spec sheets for the two plans and have different contractors gives us their best price for both plans? or should i just draw up the switch plan and figure out who we want to go with. If the no's come out too high, then we can ask them to redo the estimate. I'm sure that doing two estimates at once is too much work to expect from them and anyway we have found only about 40% of the contractors we call are willing to come back to us with even one estimate! Thanks for all the advice....See Morehelp with kitchen layout - must decide today!
Comments (9)I thought gutted to the studs was when to do it because that is when they can re-run the plumbing and electrics. If I decide after, its too late. I guess before its gutted to the studs? None of us want to hurt your feelings, and it's too late to change the course now, but to explain: It's better to have the layout absolutely decided before you bring in the workers, so that you know what you want to gut, what you want to leave, what you want to add, etc., and so that they can get right into doing the changes you need. Anything you have done before the layout is planned might limit your options. They want to get your job finished before moving on to the next, and it'd be in your best interest, too, in most cases...for continuity and time efficiency. Before it was gutted I thought I had a pretty good idea on what I wanted. So is this the plan you thought you liked, or is it not working as you had imagined? I know from experience that ideas that seem so great in our heads don't always work when we get to drawing everything to scale and can look at all the pluses and minuses. A lot of us worked on our plans for months and some get into years to get them 'just right,' which is why were pretty much taken aback by the need for a decision right away. But try to hang in there and get it how you want it. Like Live_Wire_Oak said, it's likely not an opportunity you'll have again very soon. Could we see more of the house around your kitchen? I'm confused about how that opening works going off to the right. Could you do without the cabinet that is to the right of the stove/faces the sink run? If you just extended the cabinets and counter straight there, you might have room for the fridge or more room for the island? Not sure from what I can see......See MoreKitchen Layout: Help me Decide
Comments (11)There are two practical things to consider, but otherwise this is a personal choice decision. Some people value the least walking and some people value the most counter space - there isn't a right or wrong answer. The two practical matters are (1) pathways through the kitchen for others and (2) which way is better to face while doing prep with maybe a small side of do you want to set out buffets while doing big meals? If people (your family and friends) mostly enter the kitchen through the entry door, you might end up with people traipsing through your work area. In that case, you could try two other types of plans - set your kitchen on the other short wall IF you can move the master doorway. Another way might be to move the door to the entry to the other side of the kitchen (if possible). That would let you consolidate all of the kitchen business on walls that didn't have traffic. I'd also look at whether it would be possible to just move the entire short wall between the kitchen and entry by stealing one foot from the entry. For number 2 - about which way you face - the "problem" with the position of the cooktop in the first drawing is the orientation of the chef to where other family members or guests may be standing or sitting. While you might have a nice backside, mine is nothing to write home about and I'm fairly social so that would be a non-starter for me. In that kitchen, the most logical place to prep is on the short side of the island facing the cooktop. When I did my kitchen, I did clock stuff like this and was way surprised at the amount of time I spent at the cooktop. I've heard of others dusting the floor with flour and then looking at the well travelled routes. The other problem might be obstacles to get to the fridge depending on what else is going on in the kitchen combined with having to possibly dodge out of the way of incoming people from the entry and walking past two doors with a pot full of hot water. I like either of the other two plans above more. In your plan with ref and ovens on the short wall, I think I'd put in the smallest ovens I could live with - like 27" ones and slide them over as close to the corner as I could. That way I could either have a little piece of counter with a toaster on it between the oven and ref or a gear storage tower. Refs and ovens side by side have special spacing considerations so that the doors or handles don't block each other. I like the positioning of most things in callgirl5's drawing. The ref could go on either side of that counter run depending on where it's secondary uses (kids, breakfast milk, omg-the wine) made more sense. I'd tend to put it on the clean up end of the range counter cause duffers could play through and hopefully get and microwave some popcorn or leftovers and a drink without getting in my work aisle too much. I also like the accessibility of cleanup/dish storage for helpers. I'm not sure about oven placements tho. Bon chance on your remodel. Deciding on the plan is the hardest. It's a blend of what you see in your heart, your budget and the limitations of the physical....See MoreHelp Decide Kitchen Layout and ....?
Comments (136)This would be my personal fav. Where I have the long scribble to the left end is a pull out reach in pantry similar to those shown by others. I added a small cabinet left of the range hood. The area above the sink are shelves. Not everyone likes shelves but I love mine. Mine are wood with a cork liner on top. All my every day dishes are an off white. They go from dishwasher to shelf in seconds. Plus, it’s simple but visually nice. If budget is tight shelves will be cheaper. Also, with this layout you could do “plain” laminate/Formica countertops on the perimeters (there are some very cool laminate‘s these days) and splurge on a beautiful stone or quartz for the island. To free up more space do corner banquette seating and add two chairs on the outside. Or, if too cramped you might do a banquette corner seat for four. Edited:( not my rendering below, I’m just tweaking it). You could keep the shallow cabinets shallow on the wall joining the living area. Or, do full depth base cabinets that would bump out five or six inches into the living room with an open pass-thru between the uppers and lowers into the living room. You could even put a 30” built-in beverage cooler/refrigerator in that section. The cooler would face front in the kitchen and have a dummy door on living room side. The other door would be accessible from the kitchen and living room. In a perfect world there would be a small prep sink but the world isn’t perfect. However...I think there isn’t enough of a walkway to spare a few inches for a bump out Into the living area? Is the floor plan to scale in that area as far as openings go?...See Moregalateaspig
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