Impact of social distancing and shutdown on covid acquisition

Annie Deighnaugh

Neighboring states, one proactive in shutting down, one not so much. Data put together by Stephani Jolly: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10107481491218550&set=a.890504519770&type=3&theater



So instead of telling everyone to go back to work by Easter because trump likes to see the full churches for the holidays, the Federal govt should be doing the opposite...in fact the Surgeon General is encouraging everyone to stay home, but unfortunately, he's got no teeth behind it.

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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

With no teeth behind social distancing, an ignorant leader and regrettably not enough sensible and alert citizens, not to mention a criminally delayed response by Trump, we are in for a very rough ride. This is not a country where science and expertise are respected, and we have no universal role model who would prompt people to act responsibly. It's up to each one of us to be a part of the solution.

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Tilly Teabag

I’m appalled. Just cannot believe Trump hasn’t shut most things down for months. He cannot be prioritising human life.

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elvis

It's up to each one of us to be a part of the solution.

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Annie Deighnaugh

What's really amazing about the chart too is the timeline...it's only been a matter of a couple of weeks to produce these dramatic and divergent results...that's how quickly this virus is spreading.

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adoptedbyhounds

Not sure how one can conclude that the chart is showing "the impact of social distancing and shut down" on Covid19 acquisition. The chart measures the number of confirmed cases.

We are told each state has its own way of reporting on testing, so while we are being shown confirmed cases, there's no indication the differences in reporting were a consideration in developing the chart.

FTA: Population estimates for 2019 from the U.S. Census Bureau show Kentucky with 4.5 million residents compared to 6.8 million in Tennessee. According to statistics available Sunday, Tennessee has so far tested 55 per 100,000 of its residents while Kentucky has tested 35 per 100,000 residents.

Kentucky may have fewer confirmed cases, but it's also true that Kentucky has tested a smaller percentage of its population.


https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Tale-of-two-states--Kentuckys-coronavirus-battle-much-different-than-Tennessees-568996951.html


President Trump and everyone else would like to see the country reopen ASAP. As Dr. Fauci said, that's an aspirational goal. Nowhere is the president "telling people to go back to work by Easter." No such order has been given.


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dandyfopp

Kentucky dodged a bullet in November.




Andy Beshear.

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Annie Deighnaugh

No such order has been given.

(I do wish you would stop bolding your comments!)

trump doesn't have the power to make such an order...that's why it's not been given. He doesn't control the states...thank God!

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jlhug

Trump said he would like to see churches full on Easter. He never said this would be over by then.


I can’t imagine anyone who wouldn’t like to be past this in the next month. That doesn’t mean we will be.

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Toby

Most Republican governors have chosen to ignore Trump's "aspirations" and will continue to advise staying at home and closing nonessential businesses. They make the call, not Trump.

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adoptedbyhounds

President Trump's aspirations don't come with orders nor demands. The goal is to get back to work as quickly as we can safely do so. You have claimed governors have ignored the president's aspirations. Can you identify what you're referring to?

I didn't think so.

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ubro(2a)


adoptedbyhounds

President Trump's aspirations don't come with orders nor demands. The goal is to get back to work as quickly as we can safely do so.

Absolutely but first you have to get this under control, and setting timelines is foolish.

Meanwhile, the worldometer tracking Covid-19 has just put the number of deaths/per M citizens in the USA up, you have now topped China.


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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Sue 430

I heard today that iceland had tested all of its residents, and fifty percent of those who tested positive were completely asymptomatic. Could explain why it is spreading so easily. Seems a great reason for us to do more testing!

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Annie Deighnaugh

Can you ... ?

I didn't think so.

Why ask a question when you've already decided the answer?

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shead

I’ve made no bones about my admiration of (my) KY Democratic Gov. Beshear. His response to this has been phenomenal. TN’s Governor Bill Lee has been very slow to act and is putting it off on local governments to issue directives/orders. The mentalities between my KY friends and TN friends are very different, too, with our TN friends and family more reluctant to social distancing and quarantining.

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nosoccermom

Face-to-face talking spreads the virus, especially from asymptomatic people --- who are not coughing or sneezing.

Every time you speak, tiny spittle droplets which may contain the virus are emitted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzARpgx8cvE

Limiting face-to-face contact works. Period. Unless you can meet and not talk.

Note: A simple cloth in front of the speaker's mouth stops the droplets that accompany all speaking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OSz5Gr7gG0

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adoptedbyhounds

"Absolutely but first you have to get this under control, and setting timelines is foolish."

It would be foolish to set a date certain. That's not what the President did.

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Iris GW

I can't imagine Trump actually cares about whether churches have people or not. He just wants them to spend money.

Thank gawd for responsible Governors.

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Ziemia(6a)

This focus on who has had it, what % has it, the death rate, how long, etc is completely setting aside what is happening in hospitals.

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Ziemia(6a)

It's been reported he likes to go to church on Easter.

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adoptedbyhounds

"This focus on who has had it, what % has it, the death rate, how long, etc is completely setting aside what is happening in hospitals."

It's called gathering data. It's not "setting aside" what's happening in hospitals. It's documenting what's happening in hospitals, one patient at a time.

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nosoccermom

Widespread testing allows assessing spread and evaluating measures to prevent the transmission and understanding the disease, which helps make decisions based on fact.

See Iceland

https://www.government.is/news/article/2020/03/15/Large-scale-testing-of-general-population-in-Iceland-underway/


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Annie Deighnaugh

Thank gawd for responsible Governors.

And woe be to irresponsible gov like the pea-brain running Mississippi.

Gov. Tate Reeves signed an executive order early this evening superseding a patchwork of local bans on public gatherings in Mississippi and other heightened restrictions that several municipalities across the state have ordered or considered in the wake of COVID-19’s spread inside Mississippi. The state reached 320 official cases today, up 300 percent since 80 known cases on Friday.

#The order seems to declare that most types of businesses in Mississippi are "essential" and thus exempt from social-distancing requirements suggested in the order. "The uninterrupted delivery of essential services and functions is vital to infrastructure viability, critical to maintain continuity of functions critical to public health and safety, as well as economic and national security, and is crucial to community resilience, continuity of essential functions and to promote the security and safety of Mississippi residents even as the nation limits human interaction and engages in social distancing," the order stated.

#Notably, Reeves' executive order supersedes any orders by local mayors or other governing body in Mississippi that conflict with the businesses and organizations he deems exempt as "essential" businesses.

Source: https://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2020/mar/24/gov-tate-reeves-orders-limited-gatherings-today-ex/

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barncatz

I just checked the CV database. US now exceeds China in number of cases.

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Stan Areted

President Trump and everyone else would like to see the country reopen ASAP. As Dr. Fauci said, that's an aspirational goal. Nowhere is the president "telling people to go back to work by Easter." No such order has been given.


EXACTLY.

But that does not stop repeating the lies.

The narrative is important for people that get their news from the rabid CNN MSNBC NYT and WP.

We know better, we actually listened to our President.

Anyway, the states are deciding when to order shelters in place, etc.

Just baloney, over and over and over.

The left should let their purported nominee speak for the party, no?


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ubro(2a)

^^^^ well Trump, like all mob bosses, does not say what he means in actual words.

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mr1010

Here in Fl. our lackadaisical Governor who talks frequently w/Trump and has failed to responsibly manage the virus, has pushed the responsibility of stay in place orders onto the cities and counties where the virus is spreading.

He also refused to shut down beaches for spring break. Local municipalities had to do it.

I'm concerned Florida will be a hotspot, IF we ever get enough tests to adequately

gauge the level of the virus. Right now they are still restricting testing to those over

65 and healthcare workers- at least in Central Florida.

Orange Co. Director of Health says there is no way they have enough ventilators if we get a surge of cases.

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maddie260

The Florida governor has also tried to push ALL responsibility for virus spread to New York residents relocating to Florida.

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Izzy Mn(4)

We really can't believe the charts and graphs being correct because of limited testing. Only confirmed by tests show up on those charts. I heard on some news report that for every person that is confirmed by test there are at least 4 or 5 that probably have it that can't get test because of CDC guidelines for testing because of the limited amount of tests available.

We will probably get another surge of probable cases in about one week. Will they be tested? One person I know of wanted test is ill, has pneumonia, was told they only are available if you are inpatient.

By the time we get tests available the numbers will be 10 fold, if not more, IMHO.

Every day we hear it was the deadliest day so far. This is no way the amount of cases have started flat lining yet. How can we know with out testing?

Trump is lying. Testing is not available. Is this to keep numbers from appearing high?

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nosoccermom

In Maryland, you get tested if you are a healthcare worker or admitted to hospital.

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

Headlines you had hoped to never see:

Red alert in the US for coronavirus: first in the word for infections.

More cases than China and Italy

Allarme rosso in Usa per il coronavirus: è il primo Paese al mondo per numero di contagiati

Più casi di Cina e Italia

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The article also has a video compilation of Trump's transition from dismissing the seriousness of covid-19 to recognizing the pandemia.

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zmith

In my county there are just two main drive-thru testing locations and they can only perform 250 tests each per day, according to county officials. Testing is open to healthcare workers, Fire, police, EMts etc. The general public can only be tested if they exhibit a temperature of 99.6 or higher.

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