Niles Cochet - another sport in the Maman Cochet family
jacqueline9CA
3 years ago
I got this rose from an old (at least from before 1920) garden behind a cottage in our neighborhood. The garden had been neglected for decades, but when I got permission to go into it, it was overgrown, but I found Niles Cochet, Belle Portugaise, banksia lutea, and of course Cecile Brunner, blooming happily.
I love the way it has dark raspberry outer petals, and cream colored ones in the middle. That is always the coloring; it does not change over time.
Jackie
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jacqueline9CA
3 years agoThanks Sheila - that is so interesting. The buds on mine are the same color as yours, but as soon as they start opening the inside is lighter. I think I saw one bloom the color of yours a few years ago - maybe it is the weather and the soil, who knows? One of the reasons I love old roses!
Jackie
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Comments (15)There are several very old bushes of Maman Cochet in our neighborhood, surviving in the unkempt yards of old houses. I dug one out of a hedge (only the tip of one cane showing) at the house of some friends of mine, and convinced them to cut back/dig up that end of the hedge. After about 2 years, MC had grown 3 feet wide and 7 feet high, and was covered in gorgeous blooms. My friends were astonished, but I was not - the old roses which have survived decades of no care (and even survived being eaten by hedges!) are VERY hardy (as in tough, not as in temperature). I have a Niles Cochet (another color sport of Maman Cochet) which I got in the neglected (but full of old roses) back yard of a small cottage in our neighborhood. The elderly man who lived there and owned it knocked on our front door with his daughter one day about 20 years ago, and asked for "Lor". That was my FIL's name, and we now live in the house he grew up in. At that point he had been dead for several years. I invited the man in, and he told me that he had moved back into his childhood home (the cottage down the block from our house), and that he had been a childhood friend of my FIL, about 80 years before he knocked on our door! Anyway, he invited me to come look at the roses, and take cuttings of anything I wanted. Here is a bloom of 'Niles Cochet' I got from the bush I have that I rooted from a cutting from a very old bush growing behind that cottage. The Cochet family of roses obviously likes our neighborhood....See MoreHow's Maman Cochet in the Humid South?
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