Your newly discovered fragrant roses
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Comments (31)Hi. I can't check in here as much as I'd like to but I had to hop on a fragrant rose discussion! :) I do not care for the tea fragrance myself - I prefer damask rose and sweet rose fragrances. Our climates are different - BS is the plague of my humid Maryland garden. I grow the following HT's on your list and you've picked some fantastic fragrant HTs but I can't comment on disease resistance in your climate. You should order them anyway - just to smell. : ) Halloween - more fruity than rosy Papa Meilland - super rosy - must get! Radiance - smooth rose A+ for disease resistance, but can ball September Morn - powdery rose Sutter's Gold - fruity Talisman - fruity Oklahoma - Papa's fragrance is stronger and better IMHO Alec's Red - spicy rose The Doctor - this one is not grown much but what an amazing scent - yowza mega fruity rose, but very prone to BS in my garden MMe. Jules Bouchet is doing very well in my garden - Vintage says she's a doer in every way - you might want to consider this rose and see how it does no spray. Amazing fragrance. Regarding marie pavie and brown leaves - My MP did the same, but I discovered it was spider mites - they really like MP. Blast the suckers off with water and watch the plant thrive. Maybe the thread discussing this is still searchable? Have fun! Here is a link that might be useful: Jules...See MoreWhat is the Most Fragrant Rose?
Comments (40)I have a poor nose. A rose has to have an overwhelming scent to get noticed by me. The list of OGRÂs that are fragrant is nearly endless. Just to mention a few that I have, The Apothecary, Hippolyte and Jacques Cartier. An old rose that is also fragrant but not I think classified as an OGR despite being old is Baltimore Belle. Its flowers indivdually are not that fragrant but enmasse become overpowering. It has literally hundreds of flowers each cluster with 10 or more buds. As IÂm in Zone 5 I no longer grow HTÂs of which many are bred for fragrance so that gang is not on my list. I notice that an alleged legendarly fragrant HT, Crimson Glory is not mentioned. Probably too old. I once tried to grow it but it tanked early....See MoreFragrant, no spray & disease resistant roses
Comments (96)Hi Msgirl: I love your honesty .. I looked up El Catala on HMF, and I broke out laughing when I saw 3' in height .. translate to a slow & wimpy rose. Heirloom Roses is notorious for small root & slow start. Now they raise the price to $27 per band !! If the root is big & solid, then it flowers sooner (roses from Weeks & star are grafted on Dr. Huey, see below). http://scvrs.homestead.com/Rootstock.html I got roses from Heirloom Roses as own-roots and their roots were like alfalfa-sprout, instead of big & long & woody like Dr. Huey. High Country Roses in Colorado sells BIGGER own-roots at $14 per band (they ship to Hawaii). I got Austin roses from them with blooms on !! About Dr. Huey rootstock: They are native to alkaline region, thus most healthy in alkaline clay. Dr. Huey itself tends to mildew, so high potassium helps. If your soil is acidic, then raise the pH with lime to above neutral. Lime will supply calcium besides raising soil pH. Decades ago my neighbor bought a bunch of grafted-roses-on-Dr.Huey, he planted in our rock-hard clay at 7.7, and they were blooming like mad & zero diseases. I was jealous since I had just moved from an ACIDIC clay region, and gave up on roses due to black spots. Since Dr. Huey is a woody-root, calcium should be supplied at 1/2 of potassium. Calcium is what makes plant tissue firm, thus more resistant to pests like thrips, mites, and aphids. When nitrogen is supplied via chemical, the quick burst of growth makes plant tissue softer, more susceptible to pests. I have been growing tomato for 30 years, and the only 2 years with big-fat tomato worms, plus blossom-end-rot were the years I used chemical fertilizer 10-10-10. Other years with ORGANIC slow-released nitrogen like manure, cocoa mulch, alfalfa .. no worms, no blossom-end-rot, since those ORGANIC sources supply low-nitrogen, decent potassium & calcium & trace elements....See MoreWhy isn’t my Memorial Day rose strongly fragrant?
Comments (9)Rachel, My theory is......Lack of fragrance in a well known fragrant rose can sometimes be attributed to a trace mineral deficiency in th soil in which it is planted. I believe a newly planted fragrant rose will occasionally be scentless until it's roots spread out further into the soil, which takes a year or two, and the available trace minerals, if present, are thereby accessed. Then fragrance kicks in. This is all my theory, Rachel, no scientific proof, but plausible. Try this, it can't hurt. Apply AZOMITE at the rate of 2 level tablespoons (30ml), around the base of your Memorial Day, every two months during your rose's active growing season. Water it in, no need to scrape the soil, just sprinkle the AZOMITE, dry, in the soil's surface. Continue your regular fertilizer program, and keep watering up to optimal levels. You've got nothing to lose. Moses...See Moresara_ann-z6bok
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Rekha A 9a Houston area
3 years agosara_ann-z6bok
3 years agolast modified: 3 years ago
Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
3 years ago
Sylvia Wendel
3 years agoEveryone says Lavender Veranda has no scent, so I didn’t expect any. My first bloom, though, did.
I wonder if this was just a momentary blip? As a rule, once it gets hot around here almost all my roses lose their fragrance. Except for Munstead Wood, of course.
i just planted Memorial Day, specifically for fragrance as it‘s in a walk-by area. Hopeful!
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