Gallup: Are You Better Off Today Than You Were Four Years Ago?

HU-885118952

A resounding YES!

This is remarkable on so many levels, but I will draw your attention to the absolute decimation of the Left's constant drumbeat narrative that the world respects us LESS now, than when Obama was President.

We are feeling pretty good about ourselves, it would appear.

Voters are also not buying the lie that Trump is riding Obama's economy coattails. Clearly Americans see that Trump is responsible for our astoundingly strong economy in 2020.


I just don't see how you throw socialism up against this and expect to win.


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2020/02/12/gallup-are-you-better-off-today-than-you-were-four-years-ago-americans-hell-yes-n2561203


Ronald Reagan famously asked voters, "are you better off today than you were four years ago?" Faced with that same question in 2020, Americans have responded 'yes' by a dramatic 25-point margin. And as you can see, they're personally experiencing the effects of the economic boom, with a substantial majority responding that it feels easier for them to buy the items they desire. When Democrats try to talk down the economy, this is what they're up against. A few more metrics:



By a (62/37) margin, Americans say President Trump deserves a 'great deal' or a 'fair amount' of credit for the strong economy -- vs. little or no credit.

Voters split almost evenly on credit for President Obama (51/48).https://news.gallup.com/poll/285593/say-better-off-past-elections.aspx …




Voters also see the US as more respected in the world -- and safer/stronger in 2020 than they did in 2012 -- when the incumbent Democratic president was re-elected:


On the latter point, it's an article of faith on the Left and in most of the media that America's standing in the world is diminished under this president -- and that Barack Obama restored the respect that was lost during the Bush era. But Americans see things differently. This question has swung 14 points in a positive direction under Trump, compared to Barack Obama's re-election year of 2012. Safe/strong sentiments were (+2) that year; they're (+8) today, with a clear majority saying those descriptors now apply, up from a narrow plurality. As for measurements of 'credit,' Democrats keep trying to convince people that Trump is just coasting on Obama's economic coattails. Voters aren't buying it, giving the current president significantly more credit than his predecessor for the current age of prosperity.

They're right to do so. Because of his anti-growth policies, Obama presided over the slowest recovery the United States has experienced since World War II. Trump's pro-growth tax and regulatory reforms have helped improve the economy on nearly every conceivable metric, with wage growth disproportionately benefitting working people. The "one percent" rhetoric is a relic. It's a weak talking point that Trump's actual results have exposed as weaker than ever. But -- and with Trump, there's often a 'but' -- the dark lining in this silver cloud of spectacular public opinion data is both obvious and familiar:



It's pretty amazing that with these numbers, we can't confidently predict that the incumbent president would blow out the candidate arguing that things are so broken we need a socialist revolution to remedy them. Such is the unique nature of the Trump phenomenon. https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/1227600688764444677 …



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paprikash

Yes - and ALL my relatives, too

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

Another whistling-past-the-graveyard thread . . .

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Nana H

If that's all that matters to people it might matter in Nov.

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HU-885118952

Here's something that should really concern Democrats: Sixty percent of independents said that they are definitely better off now than three years ago.

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Nana H

If this factor mattered as much as you think it does to voters his approval rating would be much higher.

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HU-885118952

Compare to the sentiments after 8 years of Obama.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/12/how-barack-obama-failed-black-americans/511358/


“Because African-Americans were disproportionately victimized at all levels of the housing and foreclosure crises, they stood to gain disproportionately from any sensible policy response. But because policy was not sensible — because it was, in fact, a catastrophic failure — the first black president in American history was a disaster for black wealth,” Cooper and Bruenig conclude."



https://theintercept.com/2017/12/08/barack-obama-housing-policy-racial-inequality/

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HU-885118952

Nana, I'm not sure how conflating approval ratings with the consistent polling that Americans are feeling more confident, secure and feel better off than they were 3 years ago helps you here at all.

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HU-885118952

In fact, Nana, you should probably not get too comfortable wrapped in Trump's approval numbers. One, they don't move. Two, I bet the real approval number is higher - a lot of people hate him so much they won't admit his policies are working for them. Then just like in 2016 they will quietly pull the lever for Trump and lie about it...

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Nana H

Just as I am not sure how conflating how people feel about their personal situation with Trump's re election potential helps you here .


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zmith

I have no appreciable change (fortunately!). Prices of everything have gone through the roof. My property taxes have doubled. My salary has not changed much. Every service that I used in the past doubled their fees; hence I have terminated their use. Oh, come to think of it, my 401k has soared. But it's just a number since I'm more than a decade away from retirement.

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Nana H

Trust me the last thing I am comfortable with is Trump's approval numbers as an indicator of his electability.

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elvis

Just curious, are you planning to move to the US permanently, nana?

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Nana H

Not sure what that has to do with anything but have at it.

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lurker111

lol

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chipotle

Nana, thanks for providing a voice of reason.

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Nana H

I find it interesting how insulated some Americans are in that they don't understand the impact of the US President has on another country' s security and economy.

They need to switch off FOX and watch some international news. Then again many have never even traveled the length and breadth of their own country much less the next county or State.

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HU-885118952

Again, not getting it. Trump's steady numbers DESPITE Democrats and their MSDNC apparatchik are remarkable. That he doesn't achieve BHO's approval numbers on any given day won't matter when people have to decide whether they want to continue feeling safe, secure and better off than they were 3 years ago.

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Nana H

Trust me I get it.......just a different " it".

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HU-885118952

Nana H

I
find it interesting how insulated some Americans are in that they don't
understand the impact of the US President has on another country' s
security and economy.


We're tired of their whinging and wish they'd stop asking for handouts because they think we should pity them.

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vgkg (Va Z-7)

I'm very well off today, but I'm just as well off today as I was 4 years ago, and 4 years before that, and 4 years before that, etc down through the years and it had nothing to do with whoever was prez at the time. It was my own life & fiscal planning with no relation to politics nor the economy for that matter. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I'm positive that trump has nothing to do with it.

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margaritadina

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HU-885118952

Here's
something that should really concern Democrats: Sixty percent of
independents said that they are definitely better off now than three
years ago.
''

I am definitely one of them. Two past administrations were nothing but dreadful ''still lives'', almost no progress, no life improvements at the pace that I would have expected to.

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Nana H

952, maybe you misunderstood my post...maybe not. It was in reference to Elvis' post about me moving to the States full time.

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Ann

"In fact, Nana, you should probably not get too comfortable wrapped in Trump's approval numbers. One, they don't move. Two, I bet the real approval number is higher - a lot of people hate him so much they won't admit his policies are working for them. Then just like in 2016 they will quietly pull the lever for Trump and lie about it..."

Also, Trump's numbers are far better now than they were when he won.

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catkinZ8a


Nana H

I find it interesting how insulated some Americans are in that they don't understand the impact of the US President has on another country' s security and economy.

______________________________________

This sentiment sounds so familiar.

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Ann

"They need to switch off FOX and watch some international news. Then again many have never even traveled the length and breadth of their own country much less the next county or State."

Now this is a very interesting comment, my conservative friends. Did you feel the insult that was intended?:)

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Nana H

Please don't decide what you think my intent is.......you have no idea.

Not an insult.....at all . Just an observation. Likely true of most Canadians too

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Nana H

Also, Trump's numbers are "far better " now than when he won.

Far better ? You have an interesting definition of "far"

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Ann

We're doing great but, more importantly, my children in the middle years of their careers have experienced advancements they probably never even dreamed of prior to Trump.

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Ann

"They need to switch off FOX and watch some international news. Then again many have never even traveled the length and breadth of their own country much less the next county or State."

"Please don't decide what you think my intent is.......you have no idea."

No decision needed. The intent was crystal clear!

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Ann

I love this from the article (Gallup poll) linked in the OP. After all, think of how often Dems have told us how respected we were throughout the world when Obama was in office and how Trump has lost all that respect Obama gained. LOL!


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margaritadina

''Nana H

I find it interesting how insulated some Americans are in that they
don't understand the impact of the US President has on another country' s
security and economy.

''

Well, then you president has to quit playing with socks and correcting people on ''mankind'' and get to work. And if he does, what's your dog in the American game? You are safe.

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Ann

More on this brand new Gallup poll (from New York Post).

"The 61 percent “better off” rating is the highest percentage recorded during the re-election year of any incumbent president since Gallup first asked the question in its surveys in 1992."

Then on the economy. Fair enough. Clinton had a great economy!

"Americans only gave Clinton more credit for the economy — 68 percent in 2000 — than they give Trump today."

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Ann

Numbers, your deficit chart covers Obama and Trump years. Annual deficits get added to our national debt. Here is a bit of info about our national debt.

"Barack Obama: Under President Obama, the national debt grew the most dollar-wise. He added $8.588 trillion. This 74% increase was the fifth-largest.3"

"Donald Trump: Trump plans to add $5.088 trillion to the debt in his first term.8 That's a 25% increase from the $20.245 trillion debt at the end of Obama's last budget for FY 2017. If he remains in office for a second term, he plans to add $9.1 trillion for both terms."

Trump's anticipated increase to the debt over 8 years will be an increase of 45%. Both 74% and 45% are terrible, aren't they? But, the % increase comparison is not close.

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rob333 (zone 7a)

Whoa. So my personal success is all thanks to an orange talking head? I thought it was all my hard work, dedication, and excellence on my part. Guess I better lay down my life for the almighty king. NOT!

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Del Phinium

"I thought it was all my hard work, dedication, and excellence on my part."


^ Nope. LOL


"You didn't build that."

-Barack Hussein Obama

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how2girl

%’s are not dollars.

Medicare is insurance for the elderly; Medicaid is insurance for the poor; Social Security is money taken from your paycheck, paid back to you with interest after you reach a certain age.

These are what’s being cut.

%’s are abstract, kicking the elderly into the street is not.

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Ziemia(6a)

Trump promised to set the country on a path to wipe out the deficit in 10 years. And he occasionally repeats it.

PS: he said, I recall, this would happen if he got his tax cut, which he did.

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Ziemia(6a)

"The Congressional Budget Office is projecting that this year’s deficit will jump to $897 billion, up a total of 15.1 percent over last year’s deficit of $779 billion — the largest since 2012. The annual deficits are expected to top $1 trillion beginning in 2022, according to the CBO."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-national-debt-deficit-soars_n_5c662ccae4b05c889d1d9ea6

Note: "the largest since 2012"

When numbers get much larger, percentages get wonky.

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Kitchenwitch111

Yes my IRA is doing well but might be offset by any cuts Trump wants to make to Medicare and SS, which for someone like me, a single not rich person, will make or break my retirement years.

I’m self-employed. My monthly health insurance bill is almost as much as my mortgage. What has Trump done to fix that? Nothing! In fact, he is working to make it even worse.

The products I sell are more expensive with Trump’s tariffs, affecting my business. Where’s the great trade deal Trump was making? There isn’t one! It’s all Trump BS.

My SALT above $10,000 are no longer tax deductible. That’s Trump sticking it to the Blue states. What has Trump done to bring the country together? Nothing!

Is your life better with more pollution, trillions in debt and more money going to the already obscenely rich?

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how2girl

It only matters that the obscenely rich continue their unabated capitalism at the expense of everyone who isn’t obscenely rich - those who are merely the pawns in this diabolical experiment.

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Ann

"When numbers get much larger, percentages get wonky."

Huh???????

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Ann

Complaining about debt while complaining about cuts to work to address debt - hmmm, presents quite a dichotomy. There is a lot of that going on within this thread.

Those who think what you pay for Medicare (which is quite affordable, by the way) is going up because of Trump's proposed budget, I'd recommend a bit of reading on the topic:) or even just on a different thread on HT.

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Jonnygun(zone 7)

Average SS payment is just under $1500.00 a month. If that accounts for your "retirement" I am very sorry...

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Chi

I'm better off than 4 years ago. Doesn't mean I give credit to or will vote for Trump. That's what happens with more experience at work and raises/promotions. We are also much closer to our 15 year mortgage being paid off.

Though actually his "tax cuts" cost us a good amount in my high COL state so I have to factor that in.

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Ziemia(6a)

$50k new kitchen into a house valued at $200k.

75k new kitchen in house valued at 500k.

Is math fun?

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Ziemia(6a)

There is a connection between feeling better about doing better while going into debt. (Part of what brought us the GR.)

https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/5867542/household-debt-rising#n=19

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vgkg (Va Z-7)

Ann

"When numbers get much larger, percentages get wonky."

Huh???????

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I believe what was meant by that is, for example :

Reagan/Bush Sr started off with a Nat Debt of less than 1 Trillion but by the time they left office it had increased to 4 Trillion a rise of 300%. As you posted Obama increased the Debt by 74% even though his additional debt added was 2x that of Reagan/Bush Sr.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Back to the OP:

Gallup says we are better off today than we were 4 yrs ago? Hmm. . . . I thought the Gallup news was that we think we are better off today than we were ONE YEAR AGO.

Regardless, I thought Gallup also said the other day that Trump's approval rating had suddenly zoomed up to 49% rather than being stuck in the lower 40s. Trumpsters sure were celebrating, at any rate.

However, several newer polls make the earlier Gallup results look quite suspicious. Turns out Trump's approval rating is still stuck in the lower 40s! https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Oh, I guess Gallup was wrong about Trump's suddenly improved approval ratings.

So should we rely on Gallup to tell us how good we think our economy is compared to 4 yr. . . er . . . um . . . that is, 1 yr. ago?

Kate

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Ann

"However, several newer polls make the earlier Gallup results look quite suspicious. Turns out Trump's approval rating is still stuck in the lower 40s!"

45.3 is the RCP average which is an average of many polls. Gallup's results are in that mix and don't look that suspicious in a list as follows (all different polls, most recent first): 44, 45, 50, 43, 44, 43, 49, 46, 46, 43. If you were to say stuck in the mid 40s, I'd agree with that. Also, for Trump, that's a high level he's currently "stuck" at.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I was looking at the early February polls-- taken AFTER the Gallup Poll came out in late January. The post-Gallup Polls clearly show that Gallup was an "outlier"--off base!

If you check the chart at 538, yes, Trump's ratings are improving. In recent weeks his rating has moved from 41% up to 43%. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Just as I said, Trump's approval rating seems stuck in the lower 40s.

Kate

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Kitchenwitch111

Average SS payment is just under $1500.00 a month. If that accounts for your "retirement" I am very sorry...

Well this is the reality for many Americans. Not everyone has had a good career or health insurance that pays for everything or a 401k or pension from their employer.

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queenmargo

Well this is the reality for many Americans. Not everyone has had a good career or health insurance that pays for everything or a 401k or pension from their employer.

This is true, with some exceptions, this goes to possible bad choices, laziness, lack of priorities, and planning.

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Kitchenwitch111

Some people make bad choices, some people have bad luck.

Some people live in states with poor public education and racial or gender discrimination.

Each one of us is just one trip down the stairs away from being disabled.

But it's really just because people are lazy.

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Ziemia(6a)

Got a source?

"This is true, with some exceptions, this goes to possible bad choices, laziness, lack of priorities, and planning."

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queenmargo

So much drama. I said there are exceptions.


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Ann

I am absolutely certain there are many people in retirement (and pre-retirement) who are struggling due to bad choices, laziness, lack of priorities and planning. My guess is millions of them.

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queenmargo

Many people are one check away from being homeless. If they really sat and thought about that and cared, they would make better decisions than buying junk food, cigarettes, booze, etc. I watch some people waste money at the bar and then complain they have no money when their tire goes flat and need new tires. No sense of planning. There is no end to this victim hood.

No one is speaking of the truly needy.

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chipotle

The letter Martin Luther King wrote from a Birmingham, Alabama jail cell in the 1960s should be read by all American citizens now.

"The four year, ubiquitous Presidential election question pundits ask us
is terribly short sighted. If you feel you were better off during the trump years because you and your family have prospered, you are missing King's far more vital maxim: that injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere. Injustice in America abounds just as much as it did in King's day, I think, more. We have witnessed, to our great frustration and dismay, that slick ways of going around Constitutional and legal safeguards are more prevalent, and more effective now. And those affronts are moving faster, heading downhill towards another four years under Trump's filthy thumb."



Martin Luther King Jr.’s ‘Letter From Birmingham Jail’

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