Buttigieg tells Trump: it's about abuse of power, not Biden's son

dublinbay z6 (KS)

That Buttigieg does have a level head on his shoulders--and a good heart!

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"Former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg criticized Trump and his Republican supporters for going after Biden’s son Hunter over his work for Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma. As Yahoo News reported, the Treasury Department complied with a request from Senate Republicans, turning over financial records about Hunter Biden and his associates this week.

We’re not going to let them change the subject. This is not about Hunter Biden or Vice President Biden or anybody,” Buttigieg said. “This is about abuse of power. The vice president and I are competing but we’ve got to draw a line here, and to be the kind of human being who would seek to turn someone against his own son, who would seek to weaponize a son against his own father, is an unbelievably dishonorable thing that is one more example of what we as a party have to be completely united in doing whatever it takes, at the end of the day, to make sure that this president does not get a second term.”

Biden, who is trying to rebound from a disappointing fourth-place showing in the Iowa caucuses, thanked Buttigieg, who essentially tied Sanders for first place, as the state continues counting votes."


https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-trump-should-be-pinning-a-medal-on-vindman-and-not-on-rush-limbaugh-022655776.html


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I do like this guy!

And I like Dem. candidates having each other's backs.


Kate

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queenmargo

Joe is fast becoming so yesterday. Too bad he was so foolish to run again. He should have listened to Obama when he said "Joe, you don't have to do this". Obama knew what was coming, hence the NO endorsement.

Good Old Gaffy Joe should have enjoyed retirement and let the skeletons be left to rest. He put a target on his son's back. He has no energy or message. Who holds a rally at a Dairy Queen?

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Jonnygun(zone 7)

And that is why I consistently laugh at all politicians. What Biden DID is worse than what they accuse the Trumpet of doing. Too rich!

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I think you are hard of hearing--didn't get Buttegieg's message, did ya!

Kate

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foodonastump

Didn’t, can’t, won’t.

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queenmargo

Didn’t, can’t, won’t.

Right;)

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queenmargo

I think you are hard of hearing--didn't get Buttegieg's message, did ya!

Kate

Why actually I am hard of hearing? How did you know? Are you making fun of me?


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Rina

Oh dear, yes, I do remember that country from way back. Of course people were blamed for being victims. But it was a country decent people hoped had been buried in the dark and evil depths of history.

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

Good for Buttigieg!

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51gerri

Some of us will vote for anyone who runs against trump. Guess i’m One of those human scum.

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woodnymph2_gw

I've always liked Mayor Pete and see that he has a strong moral compass, which I admire. Having said that, I have to agree with Rina that America may not be ready to elect a gay man to the Presidency. His youth and inexperience may work against him, as well, I fear.

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Joaniepoanie

Gee....aren’t the Bidens innocent until proven guilty? Isn’t that what the right is always whining...Ahhhh, only when it’s their guy it seems. Hillary guilty! Bidens guilty!

Interestingly, I believe I heard the Bidens are cooperating with Trump’s revenge investigation. That’s what people who have nothing to hide do.

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Ann

"We’re not going to let them change the subject. This is not about Hunter Biden or Vice President Biden or anybody,” Buttigieg said. “This is about abuse of power. The vice president and I are competing but we’ve got to draw a line here, and to be the kind of human being who would seek to turn someone against his own son, who would seek to weaponize a son against his own father, is an unbelievably dishonorable thing that is one more example of what we as a party have to be completely united in doing whatever it takes, at the end of the day, to make sure that this president does not get a second term.”

Kate: "I think you are hard of hearing--didn't get Buttegieg's message, did ya!"

I both heard Pete's comment last night and read it here, but I disagree with it and have a very different opinion. I think both father and son were likely involved in deals they shouldn't have been. Turning one against the other or weaponizing either doesn't have a thing to do with their choices and actions. I'd very much like those choices and actions to finally be investigated, as they should have been long ago. What a strange take on it to play some kind of victim/sympathy card about a father son relationship supposedly being a reason to not investigate very questionable and highly profitable behavior, choices, words and actions.

But, it's not unusual for Pete to play (and maybe truly believe in) the victim card. He does it with himself and his choices too.

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margaritadina

''Rina "... and victim blaming.''

Who are the victims? Bidens ???? They are not. They are the international mafia.


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vgkg (Va Z-7)

Sleepy Joe the mafia? Bwhahahahaha, yeah right. Picture Biden and trump side by side, who looks like a Mob Boss, acts like a Mob Boss, talks like a Mob Boss, lacks any and all morals and ethical behavior like a Mob Boss, and calls anyone who exposes his mob boss-like activity as a "rat"? Hummmm?

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Kathy

Bidens the mafia? If it wasn’t so misdirected it would be funny.

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bfox254

Trump's mission with the whole Ukraine fiasco was to cast doubt on the integrity of Joe Biden. Mission accomplished it seems as there are many here that believe that Biden did something improper. He did the same thing with Hillary and she was recently cleared of any wrong doing after an investigation by Trump's own administration. Don't you see that Trump's supporters were played with the Hillary accusations and allow for the possibility he's playing you again with Biden? He creates an enemy in order to rile up his base. It's all he's got.

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vgkg (Va Z-7)

bfox, they just love conspiracies, it's their life's blood. "Deep state" is always a good security blanket and last ditch to fall back on when their demigod is examined too closely.

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how2girl

It matters not, his base were never going to vote for Biden anyway.

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Ann

"It matters not, his base were never going to vote for Biden anyway."

I'm not sure any base is going to vote for Biden. He seems to gather crowds of a handful and he's tanking at present.

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HU-885118952

Oh, Pete, somehow it's all about Trump's kids and that's OK.

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HU-885118952

Hunter Biden a victim? That's a hoot!

He used his father's position to peddle the family name and give corrupt Ukraine a pipeline to the White House.

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bfox254

It matters because there are too many Trump supporters who seem to accept whatever he says as the truth without any hint of critical thinking. Then they spread that information as fact aka Biden's crooked. If Biden truly did anything that was crooked, don't you think Barr and the justice department would have jumped at the chance to investigate it? Trump couldn't get him to do it so took matters into his own hands.

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adoptedbyhounds

"Gee....aren’t the Bidens innocent until proven guilty?"

Very good!

What would you have the US government do about a former US VP/Ukraine point man who brags publicly about getting Ukraine's top prosecutor fired?

We know what House Democrats would do. They rushed to impeach the president!

They rushed to tell folks that by asking President Zelensky over the phone if he could help sort out events involving Burisma, corruption, and the Bidens, President Trump was really "seeking dirt" about "a political rival." Some folks were incapable of seeing that rush to judgment as a lame excuse for impeachment.

But of course, there's much to be learned about the Bidens and Burisma. Hence the President's request for help from Ukraine's president. The fake WB is hiding. Apparently he's not nearly as eager to participate in taking down our president now that it's clear he was conspiring with Democrats.

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Nana H

Clear ? Clear to who? Based on what facts?

ABH, can you explain to me why Trump would ask a government he believed was corrupt , described as one of the most corrupt in the world by some, to investigate an American citizen. Why would be expect a corrupt government to do a fair investigation?

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vgkg (Va Z-7)

Ukraine's constant delay in granting trump's "favor" actually resisted being corrupted by trump's influence. The new prez there did not want to turn back the clock on his country like trump wanted.

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Kathy

If Zelensky had obliged Trump he would have been blasted by Putin to show Zelensky was corrupt too.

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dirtygert(5-NY)

From the Daily Beast: "Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) claimed on Sunday that Attorney General William Barr has now “created a process” for Trump personal attorney Rudy Giuliani to feed him any dirt he’s dug up on former Vice President Joe Biden during his Ukrainian smear campaign."

What does it mean "created a process"? Are we to believe that, up till now, there was no way, shape or form that Rudy's Ukrainian dirty discoveries could find their way to Trump or Barr? What are they waiting for --- an October surprise?

Biden declared late April of 2019. They've had months to put something together. Barr's been on the job for a year, Rudy's been back and forth to Ukraine numerous times. Trump's the most powerful man on the planet. He's got a machine to work for him. He's got the money and power to hire thugs, slugs and dark-hearted minions to do his bidding. All he had to do was look over his shoulder and say to Barr (whose lips are conveniently spot-welded to Trump's derriere) that it was necessary to find (or manufacture) what was needed. I would assume that route was already taken months ago --- even before the "perfect" call and that they came up empty. Which was why it was necessary for Zelensky to announce an investigation. Not initiate an investigation, just announce it for the smear.

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Kathy

So Giuliani the guy who was making deals with Shokin will now be the person Barr listens to? But he won’t listen to Parnas?

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adoptedbyhounds

"ABH, can you explain to me why Trump would ask a government he believed was corrupt , described as one of the most corrupt in the world by some, to investigate an American citizen. Why would be expect a corrupt government to do a fair investigation?"


Ukraine has a well known history of corruption. but had just elected a new president who ran on cleaning up the corruption.

Our president called to congratulate Mr. Zelensky.

When Dems rushed to impeach, they brought out "witnesses" who expressed their concern President Trump was hurting an ally with his temporary hold on lethal aid.

So your assumption Trump was asking a "corrupt government" to do the investigation is at odds with what the various "witnesses" told us. Corruption takes time to root out, but that doesn't make the President wrong in asking Zelensky for help, as the new leader set out to clean up Ukrainian corruption.

Furthermore, it was US citizen, VP, Ukraine point man Joe Biden himself who boasted he got a Ukrainian prosecutor fired.

It was Biden's decision to call attention to himself and his demand the man be fired if Ukraine wanted the US loan guarantees it was expecting him to provide. It was the Obama State Department that one of the "witnesses" testified arranged for her to "practice" answering questions that might come up about Hunter Biden during her confirmation hearing.

President Trump had a duty to seek information about what US Citizen Hunter Biden was doing for Burisma that was worth $80,000 per month.

Aren't you glad the President wasn't intimidated into submission by folks who planned on keeping it quiet?

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bfox254

"President Trump had a duty to seek information about what US Citizen Hunter Biden was doing for Burisma that was worth $80,000 per month.".


President Trump himself had no such duty. He has an entire government at his disposal to investigate such things if warranted. Why not use them instead of Rudy? My hunch is that Barr found no reason to open such an investigation although you can bet Trump tried to persuade him.

And yes, I'm glad there were folks who weren't intimidated enough to keep it quiet. They spoke up when they suspected wrongdoing on the part of Trump and paid dearly for it.

How is Biden announcing his plan to get the guy fired trying to "keep it quiet"?

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HU-806720425

The Trump party knows that Buttigieg would lose to Trump in a landslide. Given that perhaps Mega GOP donors were in the wine cellars funneling money into Buttigieg’s canpaign. They know this country has evolved on gay rights but is not ready for a gay first family.http://www.fervecao.com/mix/2019/016a.htm

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Annie Deighnaugh

...but that doesn't make the President wrong in asking Zelensky for help, as the new leader set out to clean up Ukrainian corruption.

Please show me where in that perfect phone call trump says anything to zelensky about ukrainian "corruption".

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HU-806720425

Corruption does not rise to the level of pro-life SCt justice appointments and tax cuts for the anti socialist party. Priorities you know.

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how2girl

Well, what do you know they’re going to impeach & remove Hunter Biden from office. Didn’t he win the majority, oh that’s right he’s not the President.


Go ahead & investigate Hunter Biden but make sure the same privilege is afforded to other American citizens who’ve worked with & in foreign businesses - investigate all the deals, loans & trademarks received during his Presidency by Ivanka, Jared, D Jr, Eric, Barr’s son in law, Giuliani’s son, Scalise’s son, Justice Kennedy’s son, in fact all the children & in laws of his appointments who work at the White House & Gov’t agencies. Don’t forget to investigate Bannon & Giuliani, it’s an incomplete but lengthy starting list.


While they’re at it how about investigating the “agreements” reached by Trump & Putin at Helsinki - “The Helsinki Summit Agreements”. Don’t Americans have the right to know?


Parnas said “there are a lot of people in the Republican Party who don’t agree with what Trump’s doing” “but they’re scared...especially with Barr on his side, the DOJ...I mean, a lot of people are scared. They don’t want to get investigated”


Gutless lemmings.



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lurker111

Some of us will vote for anyone who runs against trump. Guess i’m One of those human scum.

That's where they want you.

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ubro(2a)

...but that doesn't make the President wrong in asking Zelensky for help, as the new leader set out to clean up Ukrainian corruption.

Gee, asking a country you think is corrupt to investigate a US citizen for corruption is like asking a mob boss to investigate crime.

Asking his own Govt. agencies to investigate Biden would have been a better choice.

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lurker111

Why would the crats impeach the President of the USA over USA funds to a corrupt country? Straight down party lines. It seems the crats have cleared the new President and were outraged that the funds weren't released early.

Asking his own Govt. agencies to investigate Biden would have been a better choice.

Of course. We all know what happens when crats investigate crats.

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Nana H

Why would a President ask a corrupt country to investgate an American citizen?

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Rina

Am I getting the feeling that there's an opinion that the world and the US should not trust American government agencies, but should trust the agencies of a "corrupt country"? Why would that be? Because the American president has totally lost control of his government, or perhaps that it has always been thus?


Well, I must say there are those who would agree with you. I for one like the fact that the "Biden investigation" was never announced in the Ukraine. The office in which that decision was made was one little outpost of good sense.


On the central issue, of course, that perfect phone call (what an eight-year-old phrase) stank with misuse of power, aka corruption

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lurker111

Why would a President ask a corrupt country to investgate an American citizen?

Ask hillary and obama.

The crats said Ukraine had been cleared of corruption and impeached our President for not releasing the funds to the new honest government.

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