Voter Suppression Continues in Wisconsin

THOR, Son of ODIN(2)

Because the only way Republicans 'win' is by rigging the vote.


Note, that a voter is already prevented from voting without re-registering if they moved more than 10 days before an election.


https://elections.wi.gov/voters/moved



There are a number of elections coming soon, including a February primary for Kelly’s Supreme Court seat and a host of local offices, followed by the April general election which is also the presidential primary.





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THOR, Son of ODIN(2)

In leaked audio, a top Trump adviser said the Republican party has 'traditionally' relied on voter suppression

  • Leaked audio reveals a top adviser to Trump's 2020 re-election
    campaign said "traditionally it's always been Republicans suppressing
    votes in places" during an event for Wisconsin Republicans.
  • The senior political adviser, Justin Clark, told the Associated Press that the remarks were referring to historic, false accusations that Republicans engage in voter suppression tactics.
  • But in the recording, obtained by a liberal group and provided to the AP, Clark followed up his statement by saying "Let's start playing offense a little bit. That's what you're going to see in 2020."
  • Clark
    made the comments alongside a discussion of what Trump's re-election
    strategy in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania will look like – a
    "blue wall" of states the president won in 2016.
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lurker111

Because removing the people who moved and the people who died only hurts the crats. We know, we know. I heard AOC might lose her seat in 2020?

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Ziemia(6a)

Why bother with evidence?

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Iris GW

Note, that a voter is already prevented from voting without re-registering if they moved more than 10 days before an election.


So if someone moved 2 weeks ago and hasn't re-registered they can't vote?! That seems pretty extreme.

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THOR, Son of ODIN(2)

A person who has moved more than ten days ago must reregister, within 10 days they can still vote using their previous residence's address.
(It used to be 30 days, and with court decisions it has gone back and forth right up to the election day. Causes poll workers a lot of consternation.)

A person who has died cannot vote in Wisconsin.


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THOR, Son of ODIN(2)

Extensive research reveals that fraud is very rare.

Yet repeated, false allegations of fraud can make it harder for millions of eligible
Americans to participate in elections.

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lurker111

A person who has died cannot vote in Wisconsin.

Of course not. They help hide the over vote. I'm sure LA ended up over 200%.

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THOR, Son of ODIN(2)

Data?

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THOR, Son of ODIN(2)

A comprehensive 2014 study published in The Washington Post
found 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014,
out of more than 1 billion ballots cast. Even this tiny number is likely
inflated, as the study’s author counted not just prosecutions or
convictions, but any and all credible claims.

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Joaniepoanie

We know we know, the right doesn’t care if they need to cheat to win. Win by any and all means necessary—-gerrymandering, voter suppression, help from foreign adversaries.....

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Stan Areted

Here we go, setting up again for failure, blame blame blame, speculate speculate, speculate.

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queenmargo

Fear does that Stan.

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lurker111

3.5 million ghosts voted in 2016.

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Chi

3.5 million ghosts voted in 2016.

Source?

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elvis

Note, that a voter is already prevented from voting without re-registering if they moved more than 10 days before an election.

So re-register.

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queenmargo

Funny Elvis, these poor disenfranchised people can muster up the energy to move but not re-register. I guess there are priorities, but that's life.

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queenmargo

I have 30 days to register my car after a purchase to pay taxes, if I don't the DMV does not care about things like me moving or don't have time.

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Chi

I can't find anything about 3.5 million dead people voting in 2016. Can lurker or any of the 4 people that liked it provide a source?

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queenmargo

Why is it that no one (especially HIllary, lol) cared about WISCONSIN until Trump WON WISCONSIN?

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mudhouse

You can register right at the polling place in Wisconsin, just bring proof of residence.

https://elections.wi.gov/sites/elections.wi.gov/files/2019-01/25%20Voter%20Registration_0.pdf

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elvis

Yup. We're real good about that up here. But Lena knows that.

Whoops. All this is covered on my pre-existing thread, and more: https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/5838371/wisc-judge-orders-voter-reg-rolls-purge#n=64

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THOR, Son of ODIN(2)

Most people do not bring proof of residency to their polling place if they don't realize they have been purged from the database.

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THOR, Son of ODIN(2)

So far, 2,300 people
(out of 234,039) have responded to the commission’s letters saying they
live at the same address, while 16,500 have registered to vote at a new
address. These numbers are not unusual. In a 2017 purge, the commission
sent letters to 335,702 people, but only 6,153 returned their cards.
(Voters often inadvertently throw away these kinds of notifications; in
Ohio, two-thirds of recipients
thought they were junk mail.) Another 4,917 people did not respond but
later voted at their original address, indicating that ERIC wrongly
flagged them.


Moreover, officials in Milwaukee, Green Bay, and Hobart
found ERIC’s report unreliable enough that they refused to deactivate
anyone, preserving the registration of another 38,430 residents.

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Current Resident(z4 WI)

FYI IT BECOMES VOTER SUPPRESSION when policy is applied unequally and favoring one group of voters over another.

ex: when student ID's are not considered acceptable ID for voting but conceal carry permits are.

ex: drivers licenses and non-driving IDs only obtainable at motor vehicle offices which are more plentiful and open more hours in suburban areas vs. urban city centers and rural counties. These places often not accessible by people without car (eg poor, or elderly).

ex: targeting only certain geographic areas to cull registrations.

NOTE THAT requiring ID in and of itself is not voter suppression - as long as process of obtaining the IDS is fair , equitable, easily accessible across all voter groups. Many states have had voter ID for decades that havent been contested by anyone - generally these are easily obtained by mail (like passports are) via county clerks office. These are specficaly voting ID's and dont favor any one group of people.

hope that helps.


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carolb_w_fl_coastal_9b(zone 9/10)

And that proof would be?

Funny thing is GOP policies are unpopular, so how do they win? Let's guess...

And how entertaining is it that folks who appear to have no idea of what low income folks' lives are really like today seem so darn sure of their own wisdom?

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soupgirl53

FYI, an AP story in 01/15/2020 Omaha World-Herald indicates a Wisconsin appeals court has put on hold the order to immediately remove up to 209,000 names from the state's voter registration rolls while the court fight continues.

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lurker111

The crats need the ghost vote and the illegal alien vote. They could never win an honest election.

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Ziemia(6a)

Wisconsin Court Overturns Ruling That Ordered Voter Purge

A Wisconsin appeals court Friday overturned a ruling that ordered the removal of up to 209,000 people from the state’s voter rolls, handing Democrats a victory in a case they said was intended to make it more difficult for their voters to cast ballots in November.

The court last month put the ruling, and the purge, on hold while it considered the case. The Fourth District Court of Appeals ruling overturned the decision of an Ozaukee County judge who had initially ruled in favor of a conservative law firm that was seeking the purge.

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The voter-purge lawsuit argued that the state elections commission broke the law when it didn’t remove voters from the rolls who didn’t respond within 30 days to a mailing in October indicating they may have moved. The commission wanted to wait until after the November 2020 presidential election before removing anyone because of inaccuracies found while previously attempting to identify voters who may have moved.

Wisconsin Court Overturns Ruling That Ordered Voter Purge

https://www.wsj.com/articles/wisconsin-court-overturns-ruling-that-ordered-voter-purge-11582915847

"Republicans" made an effort to have potential Dem voters removed. Those conservatives failed.

**"The commission wanted to wait until after the November 2020 presidential election before removing anyone because of inaccuracies found while previously attempting to identify voters who may have moved."**

inaccuracies in Wisconsin's records?

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Current Resident(z4 WI)

RE "removing the people who moved"

NO. this isn't what happened. They send mailings to targeted areas. If you don't return something that you're supposed to return then they deem you having moved (even if you haven't) and take you off.

This happened to me! Been voting in every gol darn election since the dawn of time and now somehow Im not on. Who doesn't get loads of scam mailings of all sorts - many claiming to be "official business.' I probably threw it away with a bunch of other scammy looking things.

Yes, thankfully we can still re register at the polls but X no of people are not going to be able to go home and pull together all the documentation and come back again. Maybe they have jobs, lack of transportation or childcare, maybe the required documentation can't be found.

FYI it becomes voter suppression when the suppressive tactics are applied only to certain targeted groups, and not equally to the entire population


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Jonnygun(zone 7)

How can those poor folks that dont have a government issued ID rent or purchase to start with? How do they rent a Uhaul? Get utilities?


They probably dont know how to wash their hands either...

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Current Resident(z4 WI)

Once again - for the cognitively impaired: ID requirements are not voter suppression, but making it more difficult for certain groups of voters to get the ID is.

Another good example comes from Texas, where 100s of polling places are being shut down, but oddly enough - its predominantly in black and Latino areas where this is happening. Coinicidence? Nope. That's intentional and that's voter suppression.

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catkinZ8a

Who's Lena?

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catkinZ8a

Do Voter ID laws suppress the black vote?


Um...NO, of course they don't!




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THOR, Son of ODIN(2)

Ami Horowitz is an American documentary filmmaker and right-wing activist.[1][2] He is the writer, producer, and director of Ami on the Streets, a satirical short film series made for Fox News.

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Current Resident(z4 WI)

"Do Voter ID laws suppress the black vote?"

Some do, some do not. Please be more specific - which voter ID laws are you referring to?.

Some states have had voter ID laws on the books for decades, without complaint from anyone, because they don't favor any one group of voters.

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cattyles

Wrong Horowitz, dear.

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Current Resident(z4 WI)

"which state's voter ID laws are you referring to?"

Crickets! Why am I not surprised.

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