Buttigieg, Biden, Sanders and Warren are leading in N.H.

dublinbay z6 (KS)

We don't hear much about NH, but it has the first primary (coming up in one month) --one week after the Iowa caucuses.

Here is how things stand today:

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"With just over one month to go until the New Hampshire primary, a new poll indicates it's a tight race among the top-four Democratic candidates.

According to a Monmouth University New Hampshire poll released Thursday, Pete Buttigieg is leading among registered Democrats and unaffiliated voters likely to participate in the contest with 20% support, but Joe Biden is only one point behind at 19%, Bernie Sanders is at 18% and Elizabeth Warren is at 15% making it essentially a four-way race.

Compared to Monmouth University's New Hampshire poll from September, Buttigieg has gained 10 points while Sanders' support increased 6 points. Warren, meanwhile, dropped 12 points while Biden also saw a decline in support by six points.

The new poll finds Amy Klobuchar's support on the rise with 6%. Tulsi Gabbard and Tom Steyer were each polling at 4%, Andrew Yang 3%, Michael Bennet at 2% and Cory Booker at 1%.

This comes after CBS News' latest Battleground Tracker found Sanders at 27%, Biden at 25%, Warren at 18% and Buttigieg at 13% as the first choice for nominee in New Hampshire. That polling similarly also hand Klobuchar at 7%.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/poll-shows-buttigieg-biden-sanders-105934191.html

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If I had to vote at this particular point in time, I'm not sure which one I would back--however, of the top 4 contenders, I personally would place Sanders 4th in my list of preferred candidates.

I really like Buttigieg,--like that youthful energy and his articulate abilities, but worry a bit about whether he is "seasoned" enough.

Like the "seasoned" quality of Biden, that he is more moderate, and he is more knowledgeable about foreign affairs--and that he was Obama's choice--, but I also remember several political blunders he committed in the past and that like Sanders, he really is getting rather old.

Love the fact that Warren is a knowledgeable woman candidate and is as high energy as Buttigieg--and a bit younger than Sanders and Biden.

But I could be happy with any of the 4, if it comes down to that.

As far as the age thing goes, all 3 of the "oldsters" have far more energy than I do, and friends consider me a rather high energy person, so they are actually doing quite well.

Kate

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Delilah66

Kate, thank you for the info. We are in agreement.

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palisades_

I heard over the grapevine few weeks ago that Mayor Pete may end up to be the one!

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haydayhayday

Old news.

New news:

All you need to know. Boiled down to its essence.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5344/Who-will-win-the-2020-New-Hampshire-Democratic-primary

Hay

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queenmargo

Mayor Pete... leading the world, LOL.... perhaps he should get his own city in order.

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Jennifer

I’ll support any of the four but prefer Buttigieg: Super smart, kind and moderate.

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woodnymph2_gw

I like and respect all four, but my number one favorite is Mayor Pete: articulate, calm, reasonable, compassionate, and with more than enough energy.

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

Odd that the photo chosen to snark Buttigieg's age has him looking older than he usually does in photos. Also with more mature good looks.

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foodonastump

Hay - 5 to 1 odds in Nov ‘16. They’re no soothsayers either.

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Toby

Trump is twice Pete's age but Pete has twice the maturity of Trump, not to mention twice the intelligence and integrity.

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haydayhayday

FOAS:

"Hay - 5 to 1 odds in Nov ‘16. They’re no soothsayers either."

No one, especially me, would suggest we're talking about soothsayers here.

BUT, if you happen to think that the polls are better at predicting the results than the bettors, I'm showing you how to get very rich, very fast.

Can you argue with that?

Give me a little bit of an edge and I'll be your bookmaker. With a little edge, I'll take either side of your bet.


Hay

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haydayhayday

Toby:

"Trump is twice Pete's age but Pete has twice the maturity of Trump, not to mention twice the intelligence and integrity."

Almost funny.

The average voter in this country has an IQ around 100.

And, it's the average voter that decides the election, not the intelligence or maturity of the candidate.

Need proof?

Hay

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lily316

I've said from day one Pete is my guy. I read that some of the first people in government, the arts, and industry who were the very first to throw in with Obama when he was basically unknown, many of them are now supporting Buttigieg. I feel good about that. I'd give anything to see a young handsome man half the age of trump debate him. One who speaks eight languages vs one who barely speaks one and not well. One who will NOT be baited, calls no one nasty names vs one who is a playground bully. One who is a vet vs one who avoided the draft eight times. One who is happily married vs one who has no morals, married three times, cheated on them all and has 23 sexual abuse cases waiting in the courts. One who is a Rhodes scholar vs one who can't spell Rhodes.

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woodnymph2_gw

A million likes for lily's post.

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Delilah66

plus 1

ETA: (i)dj(i)t will not debate regardless of who his opponent is.

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haydayhayday

"I'd give anything to see a young handsome man half the age of trump debate him."

That would be fun.

A sequel to the Hillary/Trump debates.

Hay

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mrskjun(9)

Were you wondering how the dems were going to take down Bernie this time. Say thank you to Nancy Pelosi.

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Nana H

This isn't gong to change the beat in Iowa one bit at this point. If anything it will make him a sympathetic figure. You really think Bernie supporters will abandon him because he is in Washington doing his duty.......give me a break.

The top four have saturated , and some could say over saturated Iowa , and NH at his point. Must have been the FOX talking point today.

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mrskjun(9)

Sorry Nana, I don't watch CNN or MSNBC, I don't need to parrot talking points.

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Nana H

So are you saying you don't watch FOX either? Or did McCarthy reach out to you....maybe you to him!! There were a couple other references to this " notion" today.

"House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., claimed on Sunday that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has held back sending the articles of impeachment brought against President Trump to the Senate to hurt Sen. Bernie Sanders’ chances of winning the Democratic nomination.

Speaking
on Fox News’ “Sunday Morning Futures,” McCarthy said he believes that
the Democratic establishment doesn’t want Sanders, an independent from
Vermont who caucuses with the Democrats, to win the party’s nomination
and that Pelosi is holding the articles of impeachment in order to keep
Sanders off the campaign trail in the lead-up to the all-important Iowa
caucus next month."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mccarthy-says-pelosi-holding-articles-of-impeachment-to-hurt-sanders-iowa-chances

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Delilah66

"Mayor Pete... leading the world, LOL.... perhaps he should get his own city in order."

Which cities, towns, counties, states has trump gotten in order?

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Delilah66

"A sequel to the Hillary/Trump debates."

Ummm, Ms. Clinton is the same age as trump. Oh, maybe your meaning is one smart (Clinton/Buttigieg) debating one imbecile: once again, folks, (i)dj(i)t.

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

The man bankrupted a casino! How is that even possible?

Built another casino to compete with the Taj Mahal even though competitors had already built casinos to compete with Trump. In short, over saturation of market.

Loaded with debt on both casinos; high interest rates (approaching junk bond level) in order to take larger loans than the operations warranted.

Downturn in the economy, so less income.

Hello bankruptcy court!


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althea_gw

The speculation that Pelosi is planning to keep Bernie off of the campaign just before the elections begin by keeping him tied up in the Senate impeachment has been going on for awhile and is probably accurate. She and others have been looking for a way to keep him from winning the nomination for awhile. This bit if news from last April is good to review:

"The matter of What To Do About Bernie and the larger imperative of party unity has, for example, hovered over a series of previously undisclosed Democratic dinners in New York and Washington organized by the longtime party financier Bernard Schwartz. The gatherings have included scores from the moderate or center-left wing of the party, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California; Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the minority leader; former Gov. Terry McAuliffe of Virginia; Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind., himself a presidential candidate; and the president of the Center for American Progress, Neera Tanden."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/us/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party.html

The whole article is worth reading or re-reading if you have already seen it. I think the Mayor officially entered the race the day before this was published. McAuliffe was also going to announce his candidacy but withdrew after the article was published.

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maddie260

My bet is dt will NOT debate the Democratic candidate. he is a chicken, and will have myriad excuses. His supporters, of course, will support and excuse him and his excuses.

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mudhouse

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/16/us/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party.html
The whole article is worth reading or re-reading if you have already seen it.

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Here's an archived link to the NY Times article that althea mentioned, if anyone has trouble getting around the paywall when using the direct NY Times link:

https://archive.is/hqHaw

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elvis

lily wrote: One who speaks eight languages vs one who barely speaks one and not well and One who is a Rhodes scholar vs one who can't spell Rhodes.

Two, actually. Booker is a Rhodes scholar.

Speaks 8 languages? Well, maybe. There's communicating, and there's speaking. We just don't know. and frankly, don't care. But since you brought it up:

Heavy.com reported that Buttigieg “is proficient in seven languages other than English: Norwegian, French, Spanish, Italian, Maltese, Arabic, and Dari.” But what does proficient mean? Is it the same as mastery? (When I asked Buttigieg’s campaign about his languages, I received his list with no verb like speaks or knows; I asked about his criteria for grouping them but have not heard anything back.) Corporations, universities, and governments have developed fine-grained scales of people’s abilities to read, write, speak, listen, and translate in languages because they need objective measures of those abilities. In the vernacular, those distinctions get flattened.

MIT’s Hale tried to counter this by distinguishing between “speaking” a language and “talking in” one, in order to combat the myth he felt forming around him. He could speak only three languages, English, Warlpiri, and Spanish, he would say, but could talk in the rest. His admirers weren’t always convinced. In an interview, he once tried to explain that he doesn’t deserve his reputation as a gifted language learner. It didn’t work. “That is not true,” the interviewer told him.

None of this is meant to cast doubt on or give credence to Buttigieg’s actual language abilities. But the contours of polyglot mythmaking underscore a deep, tenacious belief in language as a form of magic. Somehow, words do things. They reveal, and they hide. Witnessing a conversation in a language you don’t understand confirms words’ esoteric power. In that light, someone who speaks lots of languages can’t avoid being regarded as a prodigious magician.

Monolinguals aren’t the only ones with this belief. Even in communities where being multilingual is completely ordinary, individuals who know many unusual languages or know them at a very young age are often regarded with awe.

So Americans could be forgiven for their fascination with Mayor Pete’s languages, whether his viral moments are embellished sleights of hand or true magic.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2019/04/pete-buttigiegs-polygot-magic/588169/

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Delilah66

Booker is a Rhodes scholar, but no one mentioned him nor did anyone state that Buttigieg is the only Rhodes scholar in the presidential race. Non sequitur. And the rest is just boring.

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

I remember the news when Buttigieg spoke in French to give his condolences to the people of France for the destruction suffered by the Cathedral of Notre Dame.

Video of his statement in French embedded in the linked article: https://www.businessinsider.com/presidential-candidate-pete-buttigieg-french-notre-dame-cathedral-2019-4

His father was an immigrant from Malta where sizable numbers of Maltese speak Italian and French. Perhaps one, or both, were spoken at home.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-languages-are-spoken-in-malta.html

French is one of the foreign languages spoken in Malta, and is spoken by about 17% of the population. French settlers introduced the language in the late 18th century when they occupied Malta. French served as the official language from 1798 until 1800. Italian is also a former official language of Malta, and is currently spoken by about 66% of the population.

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Delilah66

Such scholarly dribble. Here's the real deal.



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elvis

Oooh, parlor tricks. Cool.

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

Speaking in a foreign language during an interview is much more than a parlor trick.

In the video Buttigieg's Spanish is stronger than his Italian.

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lily316

OMG...elvis is calling this a parlor trick?? lol And did I say Pete was the ONLY Rhodes scholar? No. I knew Booker was. Once a middle eastern man was seriously hurt and was in a South Bend hospital and no one could communicate with him. They called for a translator and only later realized it was the mayor himself doing the translating.

Your idiot president can't pronounce a two-syllable word. He reads at a second-grade level in his sing-song voice. I'm guessing Buttigieg's intellect is starting to get under your skin. It's intimidating isn't it to hear a man speak as a leader should, not the babble that spews out of trumps tiny lips.

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Stan Areted

We don't need a multilingual president.

We don't need a wine drinking president.

We need a president that does what he was elected to do, and by jove we got it in SPADES.

Poor democrats have to tear down President Trump to prop up their candidates.

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HU-885118952

Your idiot president can't pronounce a two-syllable word


Make

A-mer-i-ca

Great

A-gain

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HU-885118952

Stan, the Left has a childlike need to see themselves reflected in the eyes of our POTUS. I just think we're not that needy and more more fully-formed, independent adults.

Perhaps they are more innocents than we are.

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HU-885118952

I want common sense, hard work and a patriot in the Oval. I think those attributes go a lot further than test scores and Ivy League educations.

I mean, Clinton was also a Rhodes Scholar and he didn't have the wits about him to keep it in his pant in the Oval Office. So, there ya go.

Impeachment doesn't discriminate.

It's remarkable, however, how intolerant the Left are in recognizing and giving value to ALL types of intelligence, what with their harping on elitist institutions and markers of success.

Go figure.

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Stan Areted

You may have a point, Hu-885118952. I suspect the innocence is perhaps more of life experience and not of objectives.

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Stan Areted

"I mean, Clinton was also a Rhodes Scholar and he didn't have the wits about him to keep it in his pant in the Oval Office. So, there ya go."

There you go indeed!


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chipotle

I want common sense, hard work and a patriot in the Oval.


And you have none of that.

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mudhouse

I want common sense, hard work and a patriot in the Oval.

Yes, and the courage to do what others haven't, because they were too afraid of the political consequences. Common sense is critical and has been FAR too undervalued in recent politics; the penchant for hard work accelerates progress; and being a patriot means the candidate has the best interests of the country at heart.

But I also want to see the resolve to tackle the hard challenges, and to make changes instead of just talking about them. I want to see the willingness to gut it out, and fight for those changes, even when it's difficult and politically risky.

It's an interesting contrast between Buttigieg and Trump. I have no problem with people with serious scholarly backgrounds, or the ability to speak multiple languages, but I don't think those values are the ones that will matter the most to voters (at least not in this election, when our differences in policies are so big.)

My guess is that more people on both sides would like to see a strong fighter for their ideals...more than they'd like to see an intellectually gifted scholar. (Yang is sharp as heck, but he didn't get any traction.) I think both sides really want to win. To me, Buttigieg just doesn't come across like a seasoned fighter.

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Delilah66

"Stan, the Left has a childlike need to see themselves reflected in the eyes of our POTUS."

"I want common sense, hard work and a patriot in the Oval."

Your potus has no sense. Your potus plays golf. Your potus mocks patriots.

Your potus is just common: showing a lack of taste and refinement; vulgar; of relatively minor importance;trite; banal; nonliterary.

Yes, the left would rather have a President with practical sense, one who is restrained, decent, inoffensive, hard-working, and respectful. None of these qualities require a high IQ, but bonus points for a deep-thinking President. So, yes, we would like to see ourselves reflected in the eyes of our President because that would mean our President represents the true patriotism of a democratic republic. With your president, the challenges to national unity are greater than ever before making Benjamin Franklin's response to the question of what sort of government the Constitutional Convention delegates had created ("A republic, if you can keep it.") more relevant than ever.

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Delilah66

"Yes, and the courage to do what others haven't, because they were too afraid of the political consequences."

Yet trump makes decisions that he thinks will benefit him irrespective of laws, irrespective of loyalty to our form of government, irrespective of proven, warfighting patriots, irrespective of all classes of citizens.

"Common sense is critical and has been FAR too undervalued in recent politics"

When trump makes decisions on whims there is no common sense applied. Critical thinking must be demanded of our President.

"the penchant for hard work accelerates progress"

In addition to the time your president spends on "executive time" (golfing and tweeting), he only works hard at trying to correct or denying his outrageous errors. His penchant is for self-aggrandizement.

"being a patriot means the candidate has the best interests of the country at heart."

First one must be able to discern the best interests of the country, which takes critical thinking not gut reaction and not one's personal benefit.

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Ann

"So are you saying you don't watch FOX either? Or did McCarthy reach out to you....maybe you to him!! There were a couple other references to this " notion" today."

I saw McCarthy when I watched my recording of Maria's show last evening. But, I beat him to it as I was thinking that might have something to do with Nancy's delay and commenting on it here on HT a day or two before McCarthy:) Nancy is one game player - that's for sure! She's getting kind of easy to read and guess her games.

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Stan Areted

She's slow, no doubt.

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Ann

Althea, thanks for the April article. The Dem establishment has always been out to stop Bernie, haven't they? I can see why that angers his supporters. I'd feel the same way if I was a Bernie supporter.

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Ann

This from the article. No kidding.

"R. T. Rybak, the former Minneapolis mayor who was vice chairman of the Democratic National Committee in 2016, complained bitterly about the party’s tilt toward Mrs. Clinton back then, and warned that it would backfire if his fellow mainstream Democrats “start with the idea that you’re trying to stop somebody.”

If the party fractures again, “or if we even have anybody raising an eyebrow of ‘I’m not happy about this,’ we’re going to lose and they’ll have this loss on their hands,” Mr. Rybak said of the anti-Sanders forces, pleading with them to not make him “a martyr.”"

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Ann

And this, but now I think that early state polling is a completely different picture for Bernie.

"The good news for Mr. Sanders’s foes is that his polling is down significantly in early-nominating states from 2016, he is viewed more negatively among Democrats than many of his top rivals, and he has already publicly vowed to support the party’s nominee if he falls short."

ETA: I noticed yesterday, Bernie is the big favorite to win my state on Super Tuesday.

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Ann

Stan, she is slow, but reacting to Trump is not uncommon. She tries to make moves of her own, but ends up reacting to him just like the rest of the Dems. He sets the pace, they react.

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Delilah66

"He sets the pace, they react."

"He sets the stage, they buy the tickets." FTFY

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Stan Areted

Ann you are so right, and he controls the narrative. Nancy used to have a good mind I think, now she has so many sycophants around I doubt she's seeing the truth and is likely instead relying too much on her past abilities and grey matter.

Now there are protests in Iran against the regime by the citizens, who are now avoiding stepping on fascimiles of our flag, a horrible terrorist responsible for so many US soldiers' deaths is no longer a threat, and the Democrats embrace Iran's regime and attack our president.

No doubt President Trump is laughing, always steps ahead of them when they brag they're ahead. They have no clue, even when we tell them.


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maddie260

^^^hahahaha!

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Stan Areted

It's good that loser candidate backers can laugh!

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Delilah66

"It's good that loser candidate backers can laugh!"

Good to hear you voted for Kennedy, Carter, Clinton, and Obama.

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Delilah66

"It's good that loser candidate backers can laugh!"

Good to hear you voted for Kennedy, Carter, Clinton, and Obama.

You heard nothing of the sort! LOL

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Delilah66

No 'can't would vote for losers, so every 'can't must have voted for winners. Got it! LOL

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Stan Areted

Oh, the fallacy of presumptive implied exclusion by lay people!

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elvis

It's intimidating isn't it to hear a man speak as a leader should, not the babble that spews out of trumps tiny lips.

Elegantly put, as always.

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lily316

What else would you call the garbage he spews? Elegant? More like the vocabulary of a very slow fifth grader. Why CANT we see his prep and college records? All schools he attended were threatened NOT to release info. Remember when he ridiculed Obama, a Harvard grad ?

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Stan Areted

A do nothing community organizing pontificating bowing Harvard grad?

Where are his records?


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Delilah66

lol

heat/fire, stan

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mrskjun(9)

I have a question. Mayor Pete was not much of a mayor, what makes you think he would be a better president?

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

I have a question. Donald Trump was not much of a businessman, what made you think he would be a better president?


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Jennifer

Well said , Nancy. Trump was a failure at almost everything he touched.

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queenmargo

Well Nancy, we see things differently and Trump has turned out to be a far better President than even expected.

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Stan Areted

Absolutely, queenmargo, far exceeding not only expectations but hopes, across the board, too!


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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

far exceeding not only expectations but hopes

Trump Pays $2 Million to 8 Charities for Misuse of Foundation

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/10/nyregion/trump-foundation-lawsuit-attorney-general.html

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far exceeding not only expectations but hopes


The Family That Grifts Together

https://www.thenation.com/article/trump-foundation-settlement/

This week, Donald Trump paid a total of $2 million to eight charities. Not because he wanted to, but because last month—in a lawsuit brought by New York’s previous attorney general—a judge ruled that he had to pay this, as a penalty for using the Donald J. Trump Foundation as a personal piggy bank.

Even more extraordinary, however, are the broader terms of the court settlement, which make it clear that the president and his three oldest children—who were all foundation officials—are con artists who can’t be trusted with other people’s dollars. If Trump ever wants to take part in charity work in New York State again, he will only be able to do so under special supervision. Attorney General Letitia James’s office also announced that Donald Jr., Ivanka, and Eric Trump have been put through “compulsory training to ensure this type of illegal activity never takes place again.”

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far exceeding not only expectations but hopes


Michael Cohen sentenced to three years in prison after admitting he covered up Trump's 'dirty deeds'

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/12/politics/michael-cohen-sentencing/index.html

President Donald Trump's former lawyer, Michael Cohen, was sentenced to three years in prison Wednesday for crimes that included arranging payments during the 2016 election to silence women who claimed affairs with Trump after the President's onetime "fixer" attributed his offenses to "my duty to cover up his dirty deeds."

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far exceeding not only expectations but hopes


How Lev Parnas’ iPhone 11 Could Blow Up Trump’s Senate Impeachment Trial

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/dygv5y/how-lev-parnas-iphone-11-could-blow-up-trumps-senate-impeachment-trial

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WASHINGTON — Lev Parnas has a story to tell Congress about the time he and President Trump’s attorney went hunting for dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden in Ukraine.

And he’s already begun showing House Democrats the hard evidence to back it up.

Parnas’ files, including the contents of his iPhone 11, are being delivered to Congress — perhaps just days before Trump’s impeachment trial kicks off in the Senate. And that could spell trouble for Trump, who’s insisted he doesn’t know the Ukrainian-born businessman now facing criminal charges for allegedly making illegal donations to GOP campaigns on behalf of foreign interests.

Parnas’ iPhone and other files could make things downright awkward for Trump by offering up fresh, documentary evidence that Parnas’ links to Trumpworld were a lot closer than Trump has been willing to admit. Photos of Parnas posing cheerfully with the president and other high-ranking Republicans have already spilled out in public. And there’s no telling what else Parnas has on that iPhone.

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lily316

I think Mayor Pete would be a better president than what we have now because he can pronounce difficult words like tolerate. He even knows the difference between imminent and eminent.

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paprikash

Can you really picture world leaders looking up to and respecting wee Mayor Pete? We had a smooth talking, useless, feckless, weak President (Obama) — we don’t need another.

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Stan Areted

"I think Mayor Pete would be a better president than what we have now because he can pronounce difficult words like tolerate. He even knows the difference between imminent and eminent."



But does Pete know his posterior from a hole in the ground?

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Ziemia(6a)

^^^^ so much for tolerance and acceptance.

Edited to add reference: "here" about 18 hours ago

https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/5851182/cory-booker-ends-presidential-bid#n=35 

Lesson on tolerance.

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Toby

Do you seriously think world leaders look up to and respect Trump? There is video showing just how much they respect him. They laugh at him.

Only a small number of core supporters here and around the world see him as you do. The rest of us deal with the reality of having a president who is a laughing-stock, and for good reason.

While you may not like Pete's politics, you should respect his service to our country, which is more than the draft-dodging Trump can claim. You should at least respect that he conducts himself with honor, dignity, and integrity, of which Trump has none.

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Delilah66

Sure Pete does. One is in the ground and the other looks like trump's wee mouth.

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Stan Areted

Do you seriously think world leaders look up to and respect Trump? There is video showing just how much they respect him. They laugh at him.


Yes, I saw the video. They were nervous little schoolgirls twittering about the popular girl that excels where they fail. Their twittering diminished their offices. They were clearly jealous and incredulous that President Trump is different, and different from them.

That's why we support him, and that's why he won in 2016.

I couldn't care less who likes him or not as long as he continues doing the great job he's doing--in fact, it's a great barometer of how impotent Sock Boy and the other Nervous Nellies truly are by comparison.

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Ziemia(6a)

Lay the claim he is respected around the world and also embrace that world leaders avoid and dislike him.

There are world leaders that do admire him. They tend to come from places where the leadership views democracy as a problem.

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Nana H

Do they admire him or play him to serve their own purposes? I'm taking door number two.

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Delilah66

"as long as he continues doing the great job he's doing" he will end up in prison just like his momma always said.

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Toby

Trump is the popular girl that excels?? Now I've heard everything!

Your perception of him is not born out of any facts whatsoever!!

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Stan Areted


Toby

Trump is the popular girl that excels?? Now I've heard everything!

Your perception of him is not born out of any facts whatsoever!!


Wrong.

There are numerous facts of the successes of President Trump which support my "perception" and in fact the reality of his accomplishments.

The fact that your perceptions and opinions are different has no bearing on the facts of his successes.

You would do well to give your opinion but not publicly speculate on the thought processes and other personal aspects of a poster of which you have no knowledge at all.


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queenmargo

You would do well to give your opinion but not publicly speculate on the thought processes and other personal aspects of a poster of which you have no knowledge at all.

Amen!

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HU-885118952

Yes, I saw the video. They were nervous little schoolgirls twittering
about the popular girl that excels where they fail. Their twittering
diminished their offices. They were clearly jealous and incredulous that
President Trump is different, and different from them.

Stan, Trump is the leader, and they know it. I don't give 2 hoots if they like Trump or think he's hip or cool or whatever. He's working for ME, not for Canadians or the French or the Mexicans.

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lurker111

Looks like it might be over for Bernie. We'll call him burnie from now on.

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Toby

Stan, you and paprikash claim that Trump is looked up to and respected by world leaders and that other leaders are jealous of him. Polling is the only tool we have to measure how he's doing, and the world's confidence in his ability to "do the right thing in world affairs" is dismal. If he is the leader of the free world, we'd want to see a high level of confidence from the rest of the world. Otherwise can you really call yourself a world leader? So it is your perception alone that Trump has the world's respect. I'm sorry if it isn't what you want to hear but facts are facts.

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Stan Areted

Toby, toby, toby.

Polling is NOT the only tool we have to measure how President Trump is doing on the world wide stage.

What it apparent in your post is that your perspective is how others view him in a popularity contest.

I don't care about that--there are too many leaders concerned with political correctness in appeasing their peers and would not dare to publicly approve of President Trump since liberalism makes them dance to their tunes.

The proof is in how the world reacts such as IRAN just did, or rather, choose not to react.

We have the attention of NK and China and Iran.

They know that President Trump is no wimpy Obama or no cross the border Bush, and they can't buy Trump off with a donations like the Clintons.

That is what is important to me, I cannot speak for Paprikash but wouldn't be surprised if that poster agreed--that progress is being made in that our position is now one of strength and fairness, not roll over expose your belly as we were accustomed to with the last administration, raining down cash to appease--cash used to kill innocent Americans.

Again, I will refer you to my earlier comments--you don't know what you don't even bother to consider when you attempt to speak for others' positions. Again, you have no idea what I want to hear or not want to hear--I'll hear anything but your snide little comments aren't on my list today.

Good luck.

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Chi

Trump is the laughing-stock of the entire world. He and his supporters think he has the respect of Russia, China, NK, etc but really they are pulling his puppet strings.

It's so obvious to most of us.

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Stan Areted

Good grief, now the petulant foot stomping for failure to come up with a win has culminated in a Bernie Babe threatening to burn down Milwaukee?

I think he's taking "feel the bern" to a whole 'nother level.

KEEP IT UP DEMOCRATS and SOCIALISTS!

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Toby

NK, China, and Iran. What's being done in any of them? Improved relations? It's the status quo for NK, grave deterioration with Iran, and we've yet to see if China will even keep their part of the phase one trade deal. They are so unsure of China's cooperation that they are delaying phase two until after the election.

Meanwhile, Russia, China, and Iran are doing joint military exercises.

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

they can't buy Trump off with a donations

Trump has been bought off by foreign funds -- see Deutsche Bank.

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-deutsche-bank-donald-trump

  • Deutsche Bank’s private wealth unit loaned Trump $48 million — after he had defaulted on his $640 million loan and the bank’s commercial unit didn’t want to lend him any further funds — so that Trump could pay back another unit of Deutsche Bank. “No one has ever seen anything like it,” said David Enrich, finance editor of The New York Times, who is writing a book about the bank and spoke to “Trump, Inc.”
  • Deutsche Bank loaned Trump’s company $125 million as part of the overall $150 million purchase of the ailing Doral golf resort in Miami in 2012. The loans’ primary collateral was land and buildings that he paid only $105 million for, county land records show. The apparent favorable terms raise questions about whether the bank’s loan was unusually risky.
  • To widespread alarm, and at least one protest that Trump would not be able to pay his lease obligations, Deutsche Bank’s private wealth group loaned the Trump Organization an additional $175 million to renovate the Old Post Office Building in Washington and turn it into a luxury hotel.
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lily316

We also know Pete would not post pics of leaders of the republican party wearing a turban and a hijab. He also would not call republicans human scum and trump did both in the last few days. Pete is dignified and well respected. Trump is an imbecile.

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Stan Areted

If I were you and hated Trump that much I would be out canvassing for Mayor Pete.

I mean, it worked so well in 2016!

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Ziemia(6a)

And we are capitulating to a lot of China's demands to get them to import our ag products.

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lily316

Since the PA primary isn't till April 28, I'd be a little early canvassing for Pete. I was very successful the two times I worked for Obama and the many other times my candidates won. Oh, and 3 million more people voted for my candidate in 2016.

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Stan Areted

Yet, she was still the big loser.

Perhaps somene can explain the electoral college to the democrats this round.

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numbersjunkie

Big Loser? As I recall, Trump won the electoral college by only 80,000 votes spread across 3 states. And he had plenty of "help" from Russia and Comey.

I wouldn't call that a decisive victory at all, and it hardly makes Clinton (who had 3 million more votes overall) a "big loser".

But if it makes you feel better to say that........



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lily316

More like 78,000 divided by three states. Hardly a victory compared to three million more people who wanted Hillary. Add in the Russian help.

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Chi

I think a lot of people learned from 2016. I think we're going to see record-breaking turnout.

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Toby

As I recall, Trump won the electoral college by only 80,000 votes spread across 3 states.

That's what gives me the most hope of defeating Trump. If you look at the map I posted, you can see that many of the swing states have really suffered because of the tariffs. This was an experiment and we still don't know if it will pay off. I'll bet there are many voters, farmers especially, who are looking at it as a failed experiment. Can they afford four more years of that experiment?

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Delilah66

"I mean, it worked so well in 2016!"

Mayor Pete wasn't elected in 2016? Now you tell me! I didn't know he was running for President. I would have written in his name.

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Delilah66

"We have the attention of NK and China and Iran."

Yessireebob, trump is the eager axis of evil candidate along with leaders in Russia, Hungary, Iran, North Korea, Iraq, China, Syria, Venezuela, and Cuba. He accepts an all-expenses-paid-trip to Russia in 1987 to discuss his paean-to-self tower and comes back spouting a Kremlin-implanted, Western-alliance-breaking slogan that America’s allies were ripping us off. trump believed this Russian propaganda so much that he took out full-page ads in US papers to promote it.

Who is so blind that they deny trump's tongue-wagging and twitter-thumbing come directly from the oligarchs of evil that he so dearly loves?

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Delilah66

"they can't buy Trump off with a donations"

True, but only because he ripped off enough donations himself along with the 3 trump stooges.

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