Harlow Carr - 2019 - Zone 8B

4 years ago

Not sure how I feel about this rose. Nice flowers and fragrance. Blooms are about 3". It blooms constantly. It has an unattractive bush form.

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Magnus - England

4 years ago

This rose was dreadful for me. It was also the first rose I bought (and shovel pruned) Spindly, extremely thorny stems that snag on each other, shredding every unfortunate leaf nearby. Its even worse in windy weather when whole stems will stick to each other. Pruning it doesn't seem to solve the problem either, its like to grow bushy with plenty of canes in a small space, which unfortunately doesn't work with the amount of thorns.

Because it's so bushy getting reliable airflow through the plant is impossible and i've had problems with mildew and blackspot. Trying to remove infected leaves from anywhere near the centre of the plant is like putting your hand through a portal to hell.

All these problems I could accept if the rose had a decent fragrance (for me it doesn't) "ok" Is the the most fitting world for its fragrance and flower. After the main flush which is decent, subsequent blooming is again just "ok". But for a rose that produces blooms this small, it should be covered in flowers much more than it is! Having to look at this thorned monstrosity with a few pink flowers hanging on the floor right by my door in prime position was too much for me.

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The Right Roses
4 years ago
Thank you Hoang Ton and Magnus - England . It is such a great pleasure learning the experiences of many gardeners with many roses around the world.

Many gardeners have conflicting opinions about Harlow Carr. We would like to agree with Magnus - England. Harlow Carr blooms are too tiny. Coupled with the fact that its stems are very thorny, we must think very carefully before planting it.

Please do not get us wrong. Many varieties, producing small blooms such as Scarborough Fair, still are incredibly attractive.

https://rightroses.com/scarborough-fair
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4 years ago
Reviews can be very useful but too often, and I've been guilty of this as much as anybody, is that they are reviewed after only growing a rose for one season, or just a few months.... this is unfair to the rose and the breeder... as we so often find out... a rose after 3 years can be very different to the one we had initially... sometimes I find my initial 'reviews' wherever I happen to leave them, do a 100 percent about turn, either way, after 2 or 3 years of growing...

'Harlow Carr' seems to make a good Standard Tree rose... from what I've seen... I didn't care for it too much as a shrub, nice bronze Spring foliage though... but as a Standard it seems to excel itself... away from a path !..
Hoang Ton - Zone 9a thanked User
Hoang Ton - Zone 9a
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4 years ago
I agreed with Marlorena. Roses do perform better when it’s mature in its 3rd year.
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- Number of hours of direct sunlight in the summer:
- Number of hours of direct sunlight in the winter:
- Spray or not:
- Name of the rose(s): It can be a David Austin rose or any other rose varieties.
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4 years ago
...thank you.... I hope to make a contribution at some point.. you have a nice site there with great photos too...

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