Appliance Brand Puzzle- and made in USA perhaps?
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Comments (5)I agree with Sshrivastava and live_wire and think It's best to research service availability before you purchase ANY appliance. You could check them out via the web or call the company and ask how service will be handled before you purchase their product. I had 1 question about my Euro brand refrigerator, sent an email and received an answer the next day. One thing I do not do is get a service contract from any of my utility companies, although they offer them. My feeling is that you will have to settle with their terms and what they can do. I have seen their work force and their products and don't care for them, so I prefer private companies for Heater/AC and other maintenance and for my appliances I try to use the company that I bought the product from. Bosch is a Euro company but many of their products are made or assembled in the USA and you can even order replacement parts from their web site. Miele Seems to have a good warehouse supply and good product availability. Still it is best to research where on-site service from these companies will be sourced from. I have Euro appliances and so far have not had any issues with service. Some folks on this forum complain about Sears service and their parts availability so even they are no sure bet. Its best to research service availability for any product before you buy it regardless of where it is made....See MoreImporting appliances into Canada from USA
Comments (52)Hi Pelican Dave here in Toronto. Bottom line - purchasing stuff in the U.S.A. is often EASIER than in Canada. You often get better service in the U.S.A. We purchased our top of the line Subaru Outback from Van Bortel in N.Y. last summer and paid only $USD 30,500 (just had to email for a quote - that's it) all options and freight in, vs $CAD 48,000 best quote in Canada. Only additional cost - $190 + GST for the federal import fee - that's it. No Canadian dealer style B.S. of attempting to further pad the sale with glass etching fees - or worse "administration fees" for their sub-par service. Of course we paid Canadian (PST/GST/$100 AC) taxes to register it (but never paid any US taxes). Now that we are literally building a new home within our old home's 105 double brick exterior walls (totally gutted the interior - even gutted the studs, joists, etc), we're in the market for all new appliances, bathroom fixtures etc. Canadian dealers and distributors can go F*** themselves as far as I am concerned - and put that arrogant disservice attittude right in their ...... but I digress :-) You will pay no duty on any appliance manufactured in USA/Canada/Mexico, otherwise, as I understand it, duty is limited to 6.1%, since Canada is part of the World Trade Organisation. GST is collected at the border, and is calculated on top of the duty. Legally you are supposed to voluntarily declare your purchase to the provincial government and pay P.S.T. as well - as if you would - LOL. P.S.T. is not applicable to any energy star rated appliance in Ontario anyways. I plan to do the same for our bathroom fixtures. If you thought appliance fixtures were a rip off in Canada, check the Canada / US price differences on sinks, toilets, tubs, etc - often up to double the price in the U.S.A. Too many stupid, compliant, lazy Canadians, make for continued windfall profits for greedy, sleazy Canadian distributors, and their compliant, wimpy dealers. If only more dealers were like Walmart Canada, who temporarily pulled all Lego products off the shelves, until Lego cried Uncle, and agreed to sell their products here at the same price as in the U.S.A....See MoreList of flooring brands made in the USA
Comments (17)A lot of "Made in America" is smoke and mirrors and deception. If you want "Made in America" real wood flooing, you will first have to insure that you are using a species that is native to and sourced from only North America. Some "American" hardwoods might be harvested, or "veneered" here, then shipped far away for processing and "manufacturing" and then shipped back here for sale. Is that "American Made"? Ipe or Purple Heart or Tigerwood is never going to be "Made in America". It might be fully or only partially milled/treated/finished/stained in the USA, or maybe not.... Walnut that is really Acacia is never going to come from America. Neither is any kind Chestnut that is not reclaimed or recovered or recycled likely to be from anywhere east of the Rocky Mountains..... The best way to buy American, and to directly support the folks who grow and harvest and process and everything else related to your desire for as domestically "pure" as possible a floor, is to..... Go to your favorite search engine, and craigslist too, and look for local suppliers of local sawn lumber of the kind you are looking for that is well air or kiln dried and have it milled and installed and finished by local flooring pro's. There are sawmills and planer/molders everywhere in America cutting and milling locally sourced woods of all kinds, including kinds of woods that if you do find at a "flooring distributor" are going to cost you a whole lot more than taking a nice ride to meet some nice folks who are willing to work with YOU (not your money) ever will. Then again, as someone who has always lived in Small Town and rural America and having been raised around and living with such places and folks for better than 60 years now, I might just have a somewhat idealized view as to what "Made in America" is all about.... It seems my friends and "neighbors" take the same view as me, and it may be that when it comes to such things,we are all just a bit more insulated from the rest of the worlds goings on, but in all honesty, I doubt it. The more "local" you live, the more local lives you touch. And the stronger you make your local and state and national economy.... Then again, just what is "local" anyway? Seems to me that from the Isthmus of Panama to the north woods of Canada and Alaska, we're all in it together, on this one big Island, that we all call "home".........See MoreYoung, newly married couple, looking for reputable appliance brand
Comments (23)Folks. This JennAir (and all others) thread totally fascinates me. We have spent over 20k on JennAir appliances in two houses, mainly because we felt that we were getting the best deal for our money (we have the range reviewed at reviewed.com and have loved it, even though it is too powerful for our needs and is being vented by a JennAir microwave situated some 14-16 inches over it (stupid, but the limitations of our second/vacation home). I looked at every appliance under the sun and then some and reviewed hundreds of posts on THS and other resources. I also talked to my installer who is a certified JA, SZ, Thermador, Wolf, pretty much all high end brand installer. He tells it bluntly...ALL, yes ALL manufacturers produce lemons that require one time expensive repairs or multiple expensive repairs. He attributes it to "sick day" or "snow day" syndrome...couple of workers call in sick or fail to show up bc of inclement weather and a whole assembly line of products roll off the assembly line and get packaged after poor assembly by "scrub" workers. He has seen no more failures among JA, SZ, Thermador, etc than among any other manufactures. Now, how a manufacturer deals with a problem is another story. I have yet to call on JA for service and hopefully won't have to. My dealings with GE (and those of my parent's, as well) have been atrocious. 3 delivered dented replacement refrigerator doors (all left for me to dispose of...all had tiny dents, but GE didn't feel it was necessary to recycle any of the stainless steel they left behind for me to deal with). Also had our brand new GE fridge break within days of the 1 year warranty expiring and we had repair men fail to show up and then have to wait several weeks for replacement parts. GE tried to charge us several hundred dollars in repair fees (which we successfully fought), all on a $8-900 fridge!!! My parents have had equally exasperating experiences with GE. We had the compressor die (and I believe get replaced for free...after we sold our home) on a top of the line SZ fridge and we had a Viking 8 burner range that never really worked fantastically and that was a major, major pain to keep clean. We have two local major appliance dealers within 10 miles of us. I am incredulous that when querying both of them independently, they tell me that JA products are flying out of the stores (including complete high end packages like ours), mostly due to aggressive pricing and promotional discounts (installation subsidies and free appliances as part of a package purchase). Yet, I have never, ever, ever met a single person who owns a JA product, let alone is considering JA for their remodel. Several have not even really heard of JA!!! I was initially concerned with the reviews I read online about JA reliability and customer service, but so far, it has not been an issue. We purchased and installed the new Obsidian fridge from JA and the door had a tiny scrape in the corner where the stainless was not "buffed". JA did the right thing and replaced the door with no questions asked. They also called to make sure we received it and had it installed. See my separate post about this fridge. Luv, luv, luv it. And, it's super quiet. And a good $1500-2000 cheaper than similar models from the competition. With respect to the 9600 model of DW built by bosch, I believe it cost us $200 more than receiving the free DW that comes with a range (or cooktop and oven purchase) and it is indeed built by Bosch (for what that is worth). It had no panel, which we desired as we were going with a built in look. Honestly, no complaints here, either with this model which is nearly silent, nor with the free DW that we received with a range purchase in our other home. My wife (who really only opined about the DW and aesthetics of some other appliances) thinks the world of both DWs and is glad we did not go ahead with the FP dish drawers again. Overall, we are very satisfied customers of JA (thus far) and hope to remain as such. We're getting pestered with offers for extended warranties and I am seriously considering these given past experiences with other manufacturers and concerns about reliability. I remain puzzled by the fact that JA is not more in the vernacular when it comes to appliances, even when I hear from salespeople that people are indeed purchasing JA packages. Maybe JA's past reputation is the reason...maybe Thermador, SZ, Wolf, etc just have too much cache. But look at my review on the Obsidian fridge...I thought that internally, the SZ looked like any cheap fridge; people just marvel over the inside of the JA fridge and the layout meets our needs nearly perfectly. I'll try to upload photos when I get a chance....See Morebeckysharp Reinstate SW Unconditionally
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