Kitchen tile lippage
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Comments (22)I'm having a very similar issue with my floor tiles. My builder stated that a tiler was unavailable during the construction of my house and said that his builder will do my tiling. He reasurred me that he was very good. Well job is done and there is lipping everywhere. He has tried to replace the worst ones (6 tiles.. making no difference) and regrouted everything but I'm still not happy. I haven't tried the card test yet but I will. He just keeps telling me "my tiles may even be worse then these, they are within standards" (he does not have polished porcelain with a rectified edge!) Its also the reflection that bothers me. I had an expectation that any reflection should be almost mirror image, but my reflections seem to jump all over the place, which is what alerted me to the lipping in the first place. Is this normal?? Do I have an unreal expectation that he should rip them up and start again? They are not all bad, but by replacing one, I feel it will cause lipping to the one next to it etc. Please help :( I dont know what I should accept and what I have a right to demand....See MoreShower wall tile lippage - done an redone and still problems!! Advice!
Comments (49)I can't believe how many comments there are suggesting that this problem would go away just by various corrective techniques. It's obvious that the tiles are bowed and that no amount of clips, or changes to grout lines, or better plumbing of walls will change that. Many tiles, even some expensive ones, suffer from this firing problem. The first thing I always do when I find a tile I like is put two pieces face to face to look for any gap or bowing. If there is some, it's a problem I don't want to deal with. If I see no problem, I test a few more pairs to be sure. The last shower I had done used 12" X 24" tiles that were dead flat. But I still had them laid in a stacked pattern, with no overlap, just to avoid any lippage possibilities as large format tile always is a challenge: I agree the OP's photos look bad, but the job appears uniform and consistent in its badness. To me this means the tile guy did the best he could with bowed tile laid in an inappropriate pattern for it. His fault was not stopping at an early point to discuss with the contractor and the owner what this was going to look like when it was done. But let's not keep speculating about non-existent solutions for tile that is so severely bowed. This is only going to be fixed by a redo using a different tile that is flat....See MoreTile Lippage Question
Comments (8)Unless you can prove that the subfloor was not perfectly done (sounds like they got it as close to flat as possible) then we have to look at the TILE. Tiles this large are almost always warped. The LEVEL of warping is now the question. As Sophie points out, you need to find out HOW warped is "warped". The easiest way to do so is to put two tiles "face to face" (pretty side to pretty side) and then "back to back" (ugly side to ugly side) and take PICTURES (if you can get a ruler or a measuring tape in the pic that would be even BETTER). Post those pics. And now the crucial part: who chose the tile (s/he who picked them is responsible for them)? Who gave instructions as to installation pattern (1/3 off-set, 1/5 off-set, 1/2 off-set, etc)? Who was on site to receive the tiles and signed off on them? Who gave the 1/8" grout line as the required amount? The person (or persons) who made all those decisions will have to answer to them. For this reason, many of the "outstanding" tile setters will insist on choosing their own tiles (or Kitchen Designers will insist on using their own suppliers) so that this does NOT happen. And Joseph is correct. The "worst offenders" are worth dealing with if the entire floor has lippage issues like this. The fix is often worse than the disease. As Sophie is fond of saying, "Lipstick on a pig." This is either a "live with it" or it is a complete redo....See MoreShower Tile Lippage
Comments (9)It's a really bad install and does not meet industry standards at all. That being said, many substrates aren't perfect. Many pros don't need spacers. Grout joint should be consistent no matter what. Layout is in part determined by tile size (and can't tell exactly what size these are). Even the best prep work requires that you flush, flatten, and adjust for a quality install. That's why you hire a professional. Pros know how to do that. You didn't hire a qualified tile installer. The biggest probelm we see in the industry is hiring a "price", rather than a "pro" (and not suggesting that was the case for you at all, but it is for the vast majority of "fails"). The National Tile Contractor's Association has a section on their website for consumers that you might find helpful. New resources are being added there regularly. https://www.tile-assn.com/page/trade-professionals-consumers...See MoreDetermined Drive
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