Is 30K too much to spend on builder upgrades on a 360,000 house?
Jake West
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We gross $86,000 per year, is building a $250,000 house too much?
Comments (14)cape I remember back in 1993 when I got married and my wife and I bought our first home, new construction from Toll Brothers. It was 2750 square feet, 2 levels + unfinished basement colonial. A nice house. The bill when we closed was $290K. We put 20% down so our mortgage was around 230 or so. Interest rate was 7.125%. Combined we were doing a little better than 86K per year, but not by much. When we first bought it, we were both concerned about the size of the mortgage. After 3 years, we were kicking ourselves for not buying a bigger house. Needed a larger tax right off, salaries went up. But we kept the house for another 10 years and without it, we would have never been able to build the dream house we finished last year. I think if the 2 of you have very stable jobs and an 8 month reserve fund (it used to be 3 months, but Suzzie Orman has convinced me that is no longer good enough), and you have great credit and no credit card debt - then you should be able to afford the payments and buy the house. Just remeber to factor in the TAXES and Insurance into those monthly payment calculations. The other thing to keep in mind is that when you buy a new house it won't look like the model. It will have white walls and require a lot of decorating and painting to make it look like the vision you have in your minds. Take a long view on things - maybe a 5 to 7 year plan - to make all that happen. Don't be tempted to start buying lot of stuff and run up your debt. Even though the market is in the crapper right now, owning a home is still one of the best investments you can make in the long run. It is also very satisfying to own a place of your own and shape it into your vision. It is hard work - but worth it. Good luck to you!...See MoreBuilder Upgrades Selection Help... Please!
Comments (6)did they offer any energy efficient upgrades? Or I should ask, where is the home located and what is the exterior shell construction like? Energy efficient upgrades and air sealing enhancements should be your FIRST place to spend money. It is the only place in your home to have any sort of a pay back for you. What windows are they including? As for the rest of your list, its really impossible to have any idea on costs associated with the house with seeing a plan or knowing sizes of spaces. For example, the wood flooring. If your home is 4k sqft, thats a great price. If its 1k, thats a really bad price. However just looking at the prices, nothing is really jumping out at me as way higher then it should be. I would probably not have the builder responsible for appliances. I would think that is an area you would like to have complete control on what you select. No one here can really tell you which one of those cosmetic items you should or shouldnt do since it is your home. Do it how you like it! Typically the more you can compile into the build process, the better. It MAY be possible to do it afterwards, but also consider the mess and additional time it will take to fully complete the house. Discuss with him owner-provided items and ask for install only pricing too. Sometimes they are flexible with this and give you a good install price. Just know things like this are up to you to have things ordered, on site and correct to meet the timelines. If things are delayed, they come at a cost, which is out of your pocket not his....See MoreCan you fully remodel a kitchen for under 30K
Comments (19)Ahh....I know the market well, EjbryMom, as I also live in the DC-Metro area (in Maryland, though). Unfortunately, you're correct...this is a higher cost market! It's also an area that has not been hit as hard as others for homes and remodeling, so costs have not come down all that much, if any. Why don't you go ahead and post your layout and see what people think. There may be some tweaks you hadn't thought of! As to the windows...don't replace them just yet! Wait until you have a full plan of what you are going to do in the space. You may find, for example, that you want a counter-height window rather than one raised above the counter. For the floors, you might consider doing it with the remodel. When you do the kitchen, you will need to know what flooring you're planning anyway b/c you have to be sure the cabinets and appliances are installed at the same height as the planned finished flooring height. If they're not, you run the risk of some appliances not fitting or being difficult to remove for cleaning, servicing, or replacing. If you're not putting the flooring under the cabinets & appliances, you may have to install a sub-floor to raise them to the floor's finished height. [Tip: Install the flooring at least a few inches into appliance spaces so the sub-floor doesn't show under them from a distance. This usually applies to refrigerators, ranges, DWs, and ice makers...anything that isn't installed inside a cabinet.] Your drywalled pantry sounds like our old pantry...what a waste of space! We replaced it w/a step-in corner pantry w/shelves 12" and 15" deep...floor-to-ceiling. Even though it's much smaller floor-space wise than the old one, it's much more useful and I love it!...See Morenew house - upgrade cabinets from builder or upgrade later
Comments (20)It is likely going to cost you far more than $5,000 to change cabinets out later. It will also be a hassle after moving into a new place to rip out old ones, find new ones that fit the old boxes (if you do/can keep boxes...if you can’t, add a lot more than $5,000), what happens if there is damage to boxes or backsplash or counter during - lol, add another few thousand dollars! Add labour costs if you are hiring labour too. Soft close on drawers I would do during the build. Soft close on cabinets you can easily add yourself after closing if you want, depends how much builder is charging for that line item if worth it to you. Another factor to consider might be whether you can roll that $5,000 into mortgage or it will be cash out of pocket. If $5,000 will get you what you really want now, then go for it. But if you are going to be compromising even going with the $5,000 upgrade, stick with the “included cabinets” and save your pennies for new cabinets later on. Down the road later on. I can’t tell you if that $5,000 is really that high or not. They don’t warehouse cabinets - they order them at a certain timeline in build, but the builder would have priced out package based on their “standards” where they also usually get bulk discounts as they use them in most homes they build. Yours are a special request upgrade not factored into their pricing. If $5,000 is reasonable or unreasonable really all depends on what the quality differences are, how much cabinetry you have, etc. Cabinets are expensive. Shaker (painted MDF) were standard with my builder which was fine as it is what I wanted and am happy with their manufacturer and construction. But I added a tall pantry cabinet and that was about $2200 CAD. Soft close for drawers (I think ~20 drawers in house) was $270 CAD. Soft close on cabinets (~28 in house) was $400 CAD. It was worth it to us to have it done for close rather than do it after....See Moreroccouple
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