Catherine Herridge Highlights Fundamental Problem With WB Story

Carro

Since this whole fiasco openly flies in the face of law and order. If we cannot anticipate even a semblance of pursuit of justice these infractions are simply media fodder, packaged and produced for a weary, disgusted citizenry.


How does a person get procedural advice without “disclosing” the complaint to the person giving the procedural advice?


Catherine Herridge Highlights Fundamental Problem With Whistleblower's Story With Just One Pic


December 2, 2019 ~ By Nick Arama


"CBS Senior Investigative Reporter Catherine Herridge broke news last week about the whistleblower trying to justify why he didn’t tell the ICIG about his contact with the congressional staff of Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA). But on Monday Herridge tweeted out a picture of the form that the whistleblower, who is believed to be Eric Ciaramella, was required to fill out and swear to be true. Herridge highlighting the areas that the whistleblower was required to fill out, requiring “a detailed accounting of who is aware of the complaint” and noting they were blank. She also noted his excuses as to why he didn’t identify that he’d informed Schiff’s staff in the area marked “Congress.”
On top of that, Schiff lied about the contacts during September interviews about the matter, telling Americans that he had not been contacted by the whistleblower, a lie for which the Washington Post gave him four Pinocchios. On top of that, Schiff lied about the contacts during September interviews about the matter, telling Americans that he had not been contacted by the whistleblower, a lie for which the Washington Post gave him four Pinocchios. Combine those together and it doesn’t look good."



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Carro

From the Washington Examiner:

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff hired a former National Security Council aide who worked with alleged Ukraine whistleblower Eric Ciaramella at the NSC during the Obama and Trump administrations the day after the phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

It was previously reported by the Washington Examiner that public records indicated Sean Misko, 37, started work on Schiff’s committee in August as a professional staff member. A specific start date was not available until this week when the latest congressional quarterly disbursements were released.

The new records show that Misko’s official hire date was July 26.

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adoptedbyhounds

So glad Catherine Herridge is back and showing other reporters how it’s done.

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Carro

Best in the biz.

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Carro

elvis, they don't want to talk about Schiff and the "WB".

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Kathy

it Is the job of our intelligence to secure our country against foreign intervention. If Trump was involved it is their duty to report it.

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Chi

Most of us have moved onto the actual crime instead of worrying about who called the cops.

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numbersjunkie

What a ridiculous conclusion. There is a process. It's spelled out in the Office of Special Counsel website. No one needs to know any details about the complaint in order to direct a federal employee to the OSC website.

That said, what difference does it make if the WB did provide some background? It doesn't change the facts. And to my knowledge there is no evidence that Schiff was directly involved. More Right Wing propaganda designed to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the information that came to light. And was collaborated by multiple fact witnesses.

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barncatz

Thanks, Chi. I was thinking about pointing out that as an attorney I explained procedural matters without discussing substantive issues every darn day.

The form asks if the WB has told anyone in Congress what happened..."the violations". Fine, you think he lied and talked about "the violations". But without proof of that lie, the question was obviously answered correctly on its face. This isn't any problem for the facts, much less a fundamental one. Nor does it change one word of 30 hours of testimony under oath, repeating what the WB reported.

Can we talk about Nunes being part of the Ukraine shakedown he kept saying never happened, chatting with Guliani and Lev about witnesses he later cross-examined?

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adoptedbyhounds

"If Trump was involved it is their duty to report it."

LOL! To Adam Schiff???

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barncatz

You know what they call 500 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean.

A good start.

Now let's laugh about your support for this guy:

A federal court approved a $25 million settlement on Tuesday with students who said they were duped by Donald Trump and his now-defunct Trump University, which promised to teach them the "secrets of success" in the real estate industry.


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margaux

I can't even read the form in the Tweet. Is this how journalists report important news now?

The problem when you post a story from a RW blog like Redstate is that you approach the topic from the RW spin machine and don't see the source material.

Spin:

Herridge highlighting the areas that the whistleblower was required to fill out, requiring “a detailed accounting of who is aware of the complaint” and noting they were blank. She also noted his excuses as to why he didn’t identify that he’d informed Schiff’s staff in the area marked “Congress.”

His excuses seemed particularly weak, that he just asked “guidance on a procedural question,” “no substance of the actual disclosure was discussed,” and it wasn’t clear the “way the form question was worded.”

Original source:

CBS News has reviewed documents that show the anonymous whistleblower
reached out to the intelligence community watchdog on October 8 to
clarify the nature of his or her contact with Democratic majority staff
of the House Intelligence Committee before the complaint was filed.

The whistleblower acknowledged reaching out to the committee, but claimed that nothing substantial was discussed and that the staff member directed them to go through official channels, according to the "Memorandum of Investigative Activity," provided to House and Senate Intelligence Committee leadership by intelligence community inspector general (ICIG) Michael Atkinson. The form is dated October 18 and documents the October 8 outreach by the whistleblower.

Republicans have seized on the contact with Democratic committee staff to question the credibility of the whistleblower, while Democrats have downplayed the significance.

According to the document, the whistleblower reported to the ICIG
investigator that the committee staffer advised: "'Do it right, hire a
lawyer, and contact the ICIG.' So that is what the COMPLAINANT did. At
the time, COMPLAINANT did not even know what the ICIG was."

The
whistleblower felt that "[b]ased on getting guidance on a procedural
question, and that no substance of the actual disclosure was discussed,
COMPLAINANT did not feel, based on the way the form question was worded,
that it was necessary to check that box."

"That box" refers to
the whistleblower disclosure form, which requires a detailed accounting
of who is aware of the complaint. The box for "Congress or
congressional committee(s)" was left blank by the whistleblower.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-impeachment-ukraine-whistleblower-schiff-committee-contact-intel-watchdog-documents-say/

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Kathy

ABH, who should the WB have gone to report malfeasance?

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ubro(2a)

Attack the messenger, ignore the message?

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Kathy

Trump’s MO is to ignore anything he doesn’t want to believe including intelligence briefings.


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elvis

BC, no one cares about that. Caveat emptor.

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Kathy

No one cares Trump cheated students out of thousands of dollars with false promises? Oh yes, some care. When it is the POTUS.

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