Lisa Page Speaks out

Annie Deighnaugh

In an interview with the Daily Beast: https://www.thedailybeast.com/lisa-page-speaks-theres-no-fathomable-way-i-have-committed-any-crime-at-all


She is also about to be back in the news cycle in a big way. On Dec. 9, the Justice Department inspector general report into Trump’s charges that the FBI spied on his 2016 campaign will come out. Leaked press accounts indicate that the report will exonerate Page of the allegation that she acted unprofessionally or showed bias against Trump....


“It’s almost impossible to describe” what it’s like, she told me. “It's like being punched in the gut. My heart drops to my stomach when I realize he has tweeted about me again. The president of the United States is calling me names to the entire world. He’s demeaning me and my career. It’s sickening.”


“But it's also very intimidating because he’s still the president of the United States. And when the president accuses you of treason by name, despite the fact that I know there's no fathomable way that I have committed any crime at all, let alone treason, he's still somebody in a position to actually do something about that. To try to further destroy my life. It never goes away or stops, even when he’s not publicly attacking me.”


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“It’s very painful to see to places like the FBI and the Department of Justice that represent so much of what is excellent about this country, not fulfilling the critical obligation that they have to speak truth to power,” she tells me. “The thing about the FBI that is so extraordinary is that it is made up of a group of men and women whose every instinct is to run toward the fight. It’s in the fiber of everybody there. It’s the lifeblood. So it’s particularly devastating to be betrayed by an organization I still care about so deeply. And it’s crushing to see the noble Justice Department, my Justice Department, the place I grew up in, feel like it’s abandoned its principles of truth and independence.”

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paprikash

Poor poor Lisa.

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Stan Areted

LOL, what, no INSURANCE, Lisa?


How stupid of you.

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Stan Areted

I find hate is like a mirror, it just reflects more and more back on who spews it!


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catspa_zone9sunset14

Why, yes, Stan -- I'm glad you've noticed that!


As for the Inspector General's report, I'm quite looking forward to it.

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Stan Areted

Lisa Page ruined her own career with her attempts to overthrow a valid election and her adulterous affair with Peter Strozk, and using unauthorized communication venues for government matters constantly showing her hatred and disdain for Donald Trump, and also talking about how Hillary Clinton might be president (so tread softly in her investigation, for sure, right?)

Lisa knows what's coming--the chickens to roost- and she's giving interviews to gain sympathy and try to cover her posterior.

Won't work, Lisa--we have SUNSHINE because of your arrogant stupidity.


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Ziemia(6a)

Waiting for the IG report. No need to gossip.

Not surprised it seems the IG will exonerate her. There's been no flash bang from Fox.

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queenmargo

To try to further destroy my life. It never goes away or stops, even when he’s not publicly attacking me.”

Lisa thought nothing of destroying Trumps life or presidency. Pfft! They all cry foul when their back is up against the wall and they know it is the last ditch effort to play the victim card. FAIL!

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Kathy

Why has Barr held the IG report for over a month? Does he know it has nothing favorable to Republicans?

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Nana H

Page acted in a most unprofessional way and I haven't a lot of sympathy for her although I think the way Trump talks about her is equally unprofessional.

The first Horowitz report found that she did NOT let her politics affect her work on the Hilary Email investigation and I expect he will find the same in his second report.

I too look forward to the report.

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socks(10a)

Lisa Page (?) ruined her own career with her attempts to overthrow a valid election and her adulterous affair with Peter Strozk, and using unauthorized communication venues for government matters

I think you meant donnyboy, didn't you?

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judeNY_gw

Figures that the failed casino operator with no intelligence, no accomplishments without daddy's money and who buys his wives would be revered by the trumpsters over a self made woman with actual intellectual and professional achievements.

His disgusting display simulating orgasm to humiliate an accomplished woman should have been answered with a lawsuit. I hope it still is.

He will never match up to her.

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blfenton

Why has Barr held the IG report for over a month?

He's trying to figure out the favourable spin on it.

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adoptedbyhounds

Where is it written AG Barr is holding up the release?

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Ziemia(6a)

Inspector General Michael Horowitz completed his year-and-a-half investigation more than a month ago, and Republicans and conservative media figures have confidently asserted that, following a classification review by the Justice Department and the FBI, the report would emerge in October.

October 23rd

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/i-shouldnt-hold-my-breath-sean-hannity-says-fisa-report-release-window-pushed-back-to-november

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adoptedbyhounds

We know Mr. Horowitz completed his report. We know the DoJ must do a classification revue. We also know the witnesses are allowed to respond. Nowhere do I see any indication Mr. Barr was involved in the delay.

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Nana H

I don't need to read it anywhere to believe that Barr is controlling the release of the report just as he did with the Mueller report.

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Annie Deighnaugh

I too wonder whether the right's narrative about LPage will change after the IG report comes out. So far it's a lot of guilty, never to be proven innocent.

You'd think that the trumplicants would catch on after so many RW false narratives and long running, expensive investigations that turn up squat, like Benghazi, voter fraud, hillary's emails, obama's birth certificate, or obama wiretapping trump tower and spying on the trump campaign. And of course more to come with the AG report re LPage, or that Ukraine has some missing server and interfered in the US election.

When it's proven over and over that they keep making stuff up, do yourself the favor and stop believing them....

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margaux

It's hard for them to let go of a good RW conspiracy theory. It doesn't matter if they ruin an innocent person's life because of it. Texting about not liking Trump was her only "crime".

On Dec. 9, the Justice Department inspector general report into
Trump’s charges that the FBI spied on his 2016 campaign will come out.
Leaked press accounts indicate the report will exonerate Page of the allegation that she acted unprofessionally or showed bias against Trump.

How does it feel after all this time to finally have the IG apparently
affirm what she’s been saying all along? She said she wouldn’t discuss
the findings until they were officially public, but she did note: “While
it would be nice to have the IG confirm publicly that my personal
opinions had absolutely no bearing on the course of the Russia
investigations, I don’t kid myself that the fact will matter very much
for a lot of people. The president has a very loud megaphone.”

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ohiomom

Love the 1st Amendment ... and who is better at throwing hate than the Trump himself. Does he look in the mirror after he tweets?

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elvis

He’s demeaning me and my career. It’s sickening.”

Pot, kettle Lisa.

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mudhouse

I read the article earlier this morning. Lol.

How long before somebody starts a GoFundMe account for poor Lisa?

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soupgirl53

Perhaps Horowtiz is able to tell the difference between 2 people carrying on an ill-advised office email conversation from a coup to overthrow President Trump?

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catspa_zone9sunset14

Trump faking an orgasm while calling out her name in front of thousands at his rally in Minneapolis in October -- that must have been such a special presidential moment, of which the trumpsters can be so proud....

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Well, this thread turned out to be mostly a waste of time, didn't it. Not a very encouraging start to my morning.

Think I need to finish my first cup of coffee this morning. ; )


Kate

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Ziemia(6a)

Waiting for Horowitz to tell us what Lisa did. Until then, it is gossip.

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Nana H

There is no evidence to support the claim that Page was part of an attempt to take down Trump. As a matter of fact Horowitz found exactly the opposite in the first report. He found that Page's politics played NO part in her professional dealings.

Like Ziemia, I'll wait for the actual report before making any judgement beyond the fact they she absolutely acted unprofessionally using company devices, on company time to carry on an affair. Her actions undermine the professional conduct of the FBI and in fact helped fuel these conspiracy theories. She owes a huge apology to her fellow FBI agents.

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Stan Areted

Looks like Lisa Page is still married to Joseph Burrows.

There is a good possibility someone's going to have to pony up cash for legal fees associated with her not quite so stealth agenda against a duly elected president.

"Insurance," indeed!

I can't imagine 'splaining to the kiddies mommy needs your college funds to pay for attorneys for trying to overthrow election results while having bedtime with the FBI Bonzo Peter.

It's okay, we now have crowd funding available, probably FBI has it's own account by now!

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Nana H

What makes you think she will be charged with anything? By the sounds of interview she appears to know that she will be exonerated from allowing her political bias to interfere with her professional duties.

I read somewhere that all the people interviewed had a chance to review the report and challenge anything they felt to be untrue. I am fairly certain Page would have been one of those people which leads me to believe she already knows what's in the report.

Are you prepared to accept the Horowitz report if it in fact exonerates her?


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Stan Areted

I didn't say she'd be charged.

I said "I can't imagine 'splaining to the kiddies mommy needs your college funds to pay for attorneys for trying to overthrow election results while having bedtime with the FBI Bonzo Peter."


The "insurance" comment along with other irregularities of her behavior while supposedly doing her job, will cause her to need legal representation, if she's one tenth as smart as she obviously thinks she is.

In fact, I would be shocked if she hasn't already paid legal fees.

Or in her case, who knows how an attorney would be paid.

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adoptedbyhounds

"I don't need to read it anywhere to believe that Barr is controlling the release of the report just as he did with the Mueller report."

No problem, Nana. That's what works for you, and you get to make the call.

I have a different view. By reading multiple reports, I've learned about both of the claims that Barr is responsible for delaying the Mueller Report and delaying the upcoming Horowitz Report. I've learned what caused the delay in the Mueller Report. I also learned about the requirements for releasing the IG Report. The process for releasing the report did not end on the day the report was completed.

"I too wonder whether the right's narrative about LPage will change after the IG report comes out."

What narrative? For reasons not yet clear, Lisa Page resigned from her job at the FBI right before the 2018 Horowitz Report was released.

Perhaps she became a cooperating witness in the just completed IG report. Sometimes people are rewarded for singing about a colleague or colleagues.

By the way, I went to the OP link claiming she was exonerated. Can you tell us where the linked article says any such thing?

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Nana H

"I didn't say she'd be charged."

Sorry, I must have misunderstood. Why would she need to pay a lawyer for " trying to overthrow election results" unless there were charges associated with that?

I do believe she has a lawyer and has already paid legal fees related to her resignation, pension , slander etc. but I don't see why she would need a lawyer as you describe unless there were criminal charges. Then again , none of us know the facts, we will find out more next week. Until then it's all speculation on everyones part.

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Nana H

"The process for releasing the report did not end on the day the report was completed."

Agree completely. I am well aware that there additional reviews , redaction consideration, etc required. I'm not suggesting he has held it back from the day it was released by Horowitz. However, that does not change the fact I believe Barr is controlling the release of the report for political reasons and more importantly Trump management.


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Ziemia(6a)

"There is a good possibility someone's going to have to pony up cash for legal fees associated with her not quite so stealth agenda against a duly elected president."

Idle speculation based on speculation and innuendo?

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Annie Deighnaugh

Repetition doesn't make something any more true:

...for trying to overthrow election results...

There is *no* evidence that she did that at all.

And if in her role she was seeing all of the ways trump's campaign was interacting with russians, I could certainly understand why she'd find his election win anathema.

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Delilah66

"showing her hatred and disdain for Donald Trump"

Do you understand anyone is allowed to show hatred and disdain for trump without fear of reprisal under our legal system? Threatening someone's life, not so much. So object all you want, but we'll grin and you'll just have to bear it.

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Ziemia(6a)

Word (re LPage) is "Horowitz determined there was no evidence “improper considerations, including political bias, directly affected the specific investigative decisions."

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Delilah66

"I can't imagine 'splaining to the kiddies mommy needs your college funds to pay for attorneys for trying to overthrow election results while having bedtime with the FBI Bonzo Peter. "

Where's your concern for donnie's kids? Well, at least for Tiffany and Barron. The others are complicit.


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Ziemia(6a)

Well, I guess Ms. Page could sue Donnie for character assassination.

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Annie Deighnaugh

Yes Ziemia, and we have precedent of US presidents being subject to civil lawsuits...just ask bill clinton about that.

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jerzeegirl(9b)

The final straw in a series of unprecedented attacks on the couple by Trump was what Page characterized as the president’s performance at a campaign rally in October of an imagined “orgasm” between the two, Page said. That’s why she finally decided to speak out publicly. “Honestly, his demeaning fake orgasm was really the straw that broke the camel’s back,” explained Page, who called it a “truly reprehensible, degrading stunt ... in which he used my name to simulate an orgasm.”

Could this president be any more despicable? Not to mention, just plain icky.

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Nana H

"Perhaps she became a cooperating witness in the just completed IG
report. Sometimes people are rewarded for singing about a colleague or
colleagues."

I know you said "perhaps" but I can't help but wonder if this is a prelude to the rationale that may be put forward should Horowitz exonerate her.

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lily316

It's unfortunate she hates trump like many of us do and works for the FBI but she did nothing wrong. It's beyond inappropriate when trump imitates her orgasms at his rally where there are little kids. I saw it and I think he is the most disgraceful, disgusting, repulsive gross man ever to be president and no one comes even close.

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Carro

Straight out of the Leftist playbook. Play the victim.

She'd be still employed on the taxpayer dime, smugly undermining Trump and collecting a paycheck if Strzok's wife didn't find out.

Sorry not sorry.

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Carro

I'd say it's wrong to have an affair with your work mate and spend ridiculous amounts of time texting and canoodling when you should be working. Oh, and plotting to undermine the President elect.

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Nana H

Agree totally with your first sentence. Absent the Horowitz report, got some information that supports the second sentence?

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Carro

There are no "private messages" on government-owned work devices.

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Nana H

"It's unfortunate she hates trump like many of us do and works for the FBI but she did nothing wrong."

I can't agree Lily. Page did wrong. She acted in a most unprofessional way AND opened the FBI, her colleagues , up to this entire mess. If she worked for me I would have fired her for her conduct.

Having said that, I see no evidence that her political beliefs colored her work. FBI agents are American citizens who hold a cross section of political views just like any other American citizen. I suspect there were every bit as many Hillary haters in the FBI as Trump haters. The notion that professionals cannot put their personal politics aside in doing their jobs is nonsense. Of course they can.

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patriciae_gw(07)

But apparently she did not undermine Trump. We wont know for a complete fact until the report is finally out but at this point it does appear that she did not. Why keep repeating that misrepresentation of fact?

Bears repeating

As Annie said


" Repetition doesn't make something any more true"

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Nana H

Patriciae, I fully expect that it will continue past the report even if she is exonerated of any political influence on her work. May have to find a new angle but my suspicions are Trump supporters will not accept finding that don't support the current narrative.

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Ziemia(6a)

"She'd be still employed on the taxpayer dime, smugly undermining Trump and collecting a paycheck if Strzok's wife didn't find out."

Strzok's wife outed them to Mueller?

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Stan Areted

Sgrzok's wife found his phone and more:

Here, it's in the Washington Examiner, liberal sources don't like this getting out:


"In a footnote, Will cited a text exchange between Strzok and Page from April 4, 2017, where Strzok’s wife uncovered their affair.

“[My wife] has my phone. Read an angry note I wrote but didn’t send you. That is her calling from my phone. She says she wants to talk to [you]. Said we were close friends nothing more,” Strzok texted Page.

“Your wife left me a vm. Am I supposed to respond?” Page replied. “She thinks we’re having an affair. Should I call and correct her understanding? Leave this to you to address?”

Strzok said, “I don’t know. I said we were close friends and nothing more. She knows I sent you flowers. I said you were having a tough week.”

Strzok’s wife threatened to expose the affair.

“You and [Page] discussed that your wife had access to your devices and had located [Page]’s husband’s full name, found a hotel reservation ostensibly used by you and [Page] during a romantic encounter, had access to photographs from your phone, threatened to send all the information to [Page]’s husband, and also threatened to hire a private investigator,” Will wrote to Strzok in 2018. “[Page] told you to determine whether your wife might use recovery software to locate other evidence of your affair on your devices.” Washington Examiner Dec 2019


Muehller had the lovebirds' phone scrubbed:


Breitbart July 2019:

"So most prosecutors want to make sure there’s no appearance of impropriety, but in your case, you hired a bunch of people that did not like the president,” Gohmert said, before asking Mueller when he found out about Strzok’s “animus” toward the president.

“In the summer of 2017,” Mueller said.

“You didn’t know before he was hired for your team?” Gohmert asked.

“Know what?” Mueller asked.

“Peter Strzok hated Trump. You didn’t know that before he was made part of your team?” Gohmert pressed.

Mueller contended he was not aware at the time of Strzok’s initial assignment.

“I did not know that. When I did find out, I acted swiftly to have him reassigned elsewhere in the FBI,” Mueller claimed.

“Well, there’s some discussion about how swift that was,” Gohmert replied, before asking Mueller when he found out about Strzok’s affair with Lisa Page. Mueller claimed he found out “about the same time” that Stzrok’s hostility toward Trump came to light.

“Did you ever order anyone to investigate the deletion of all of their texts off of their government phones?” Gohmert pressed."


From American Thinkder Dec 18

'The OIG was told that the DOJ issued iPhone previously assigned to Strzok had been re-issued to another FBI agent following Strzok's departure from the SCO. The SCO obtained the iPhone from that individual and provided it to the OIG. CYB ER obtained a forensic extraction of the iPhone previously assigned to Strzok; however. [T]his iPhone had been reset to factory settings and was reconfigured for the new user to whom the device was issued. It did not contain data related to Strzok's use of the device. SCO's Records Officer told the OIG that as part of the office's records retention procedure, the officer reviewed Strzok's DOJ issued iPhone after he returned it to the SCO and determined it contained no substantive text message"




Basically, Muehller pretended and acted like Lurch.

Convenient for everyone that needed protection.

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Ziemia(6a)

Stan, save your distain.

That WE doesn't say how (or specifically what) Mueller found out.

Gotmert's question also don't provide those details.

I had read these before posting my query except about the phone scrubbing as that doesn't pertain to my specific query. (The WE was among the first results.) Which remains unanswered.

Who informed Mueller - and/or who first learned of those texts that led to them being removed by Mueller?

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Stan Areted


Ziemia:

Stan, save your distain.


Do you mean "disdain?"

If I do, everyone else needs to save their disdain for President Trump, too.

Deal, Ziemia?

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patriciae_gw(07)

Everyone forgets the Mueller investigation was not an investigation into Trump. It was an investigation into Russian intervention into our electoral process. Amazing what? so here is the deal. If Trump and his minions and family members had not had multiple contacts with Russian operatives they would never have come up in the investigation. Once it becomes known that you did in fact have contacts with Russians it had to be investigated as to what those contacts consisted of. Would all of you prefer that the FBI just ignore anything connecting with Trump central? Lets put Clinton in there instead. Oddly enough there doesn't seem to be any evidence of multiple connections between the Clinton campaign and Russia. How odd is that? Do we presume they tried and the CC didn't respond or do we assume that since Putin in on records as not preferring Clinton but instead Trump they never even tried. Frankly sullying the Clinton Campaign with covert contact that you could expose later would be a good ploy. Think like Putin in this because he was pulling the strings. Remember Putin does not "like" Trump. He will push him out of the door of the airplane if it suits his purpose of creating divisiveness in our culture. Also ask yourself why Putin preferred Trump.

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Carro

Page: “God Trump is a loathsome human”

Page: “He’s awful. God, Hillary should win”

Strzok: "God, Hillary should win 100,000,000-0"

Page: "This man cannot be president"

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Carro

Page: “I want to believe the path you threw out in Andy’s office—that there’s no way he gets elected—but I’m afraid we can’t take the risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”

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Carro

Page: [Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!”

Strzok: “No. No he’s not. We’ll stop it.”

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catkinZ8a

Has this half of the home wreckers spoken out about anything else?


Strzok's wife ratted him out.


Report: Strzok's wife, not FBI, outed his Lisa Page affair

'Gather round and listen how chief of counterespionage was compromised'

By WND Staff
Published November 29, 2019 at 4:30pm


A new report reveals that it was removed FBI agent Peter Strzok's wife who outed his affair with fellow FBI worker Lisa Page.

You'll recall they are at the center of a lot of controversies in Washington, mostly related to the agency's questionable investigations of the Trump campaign in 2016.


They pointedly exchanged text messages during that campaign assuring each other how President Trump would not win and if so, they had an "insurance" policy.

There still are a lot of answers to be had regarding their actions.


But one answer now has been revealed: how Strzok's clandestine affair with Page was outed.

It was his wife.


Need a Karmic-Justice laugh?
Gather round and listen how Chief of Counterespionage was compromised by his own wife who (after confronting "hat-trick" Lisa) turned over incriminating tryst evidence to FBI which would then end up as public spectacle & exculpatory diggs for Flynn. pic.twitter.com/6RpIfGwRP5
— ❌Austere Scholar Monsieur ❌ (@MonsieurAmerica) November 25, 2019

An OANN.com report said, "Now we learn it was because of Peter Strzok's own wife was able to get to his phone, get the calls to Lisa Page, confronted her, and went to the FBI with the whole thing."

The Gateway Pundit said, pointedly, "HUGE: Strzok-Page texts were not unearthed by sharp FBI investigative work – Strzok's angry and scorned wife turned him in after finding texts on his phone."

The report included a social media statement from Stephen McIntyre that, "turns out that combined resources of Mueller investigation and FBI did not identify the problematic Strzok-Page texts. It had the most old-fashioned explanation of all: Strzok's wife."


..turns out that combined resources of Mueller investigation and FBI did not identify the problematic Strzok-Page texts. It had the most old-fashioned explanation of all: Strzok's wife. https://t.co/oMqLxxUs39
— Stephen McIntyre (@ClimateAudit) November 25, 2019


https://www.wnd.com/2019/11/report-strzoks-wife-not-fbi-outed-lisa-page-affair/

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catkinZ8a

Hey Liar Loser Lisa


You don't like when private messages exchanged on your government issued cell phone become public?


Huh, maybe the people you surrounded yourself with should've kept their mouths shut when they were leaking fabricated stories for the press. If you want to cry to anyone, go cry to your friends.



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Nana H

Hopefully reliable facts will be made available in the report. His wife outing him to the FBI does not fit with my recollection of the events at the time.

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Carro

Huh, maybe the people you surrounded yourself with should've kept their mouths shut when they were leaking fabricated stories for the press. If you want to cry to anyone, go cry to your friends.

Page is a lying liar who lies. She was ready to lie to anyone and everyone to cover her affair.

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cattyles

Holy Wow Cow! Check out the front page of this prestigious “source”. No wonder.

https://www.wnd.com/

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catkinZ8a



The Department of Justice released documents Monday outlining a slew of "security violations" and flagrantly "unprofessional conduct" by anti-Trump ex-FBI agent Peter Strzok — including his alleged practice of keeping sensitive FBI documents on his unsecured personal electronic devices, even as his wife gained access to his cellphone and discovered evidence that he was having an affair with former FBI attorney Lisa Page.


The DOJ was seeking to dismiss Strzok’s lawsuit claiming he was unfairly fired and deserves to be reinstated as chief of the counterespionage division at the FBI. In its filing, the DOJ included an August 2018 letter to Strzok from the DOJ's Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR), which said in part that Strzok had engaged in a "dereliction of supervisory responsibility" by failing to investigate the potentially classified Hillary Clinton emails that had turned up on an unsecured laptop belonging to Anthony Weiner as the 2016 election approached.


The situation became so dire, OPR said, that a case agent in New York told federal prosecutors there that he was "scared" and "paranoid" that "somebody was not acting appropriately" and that "somebody was trying to bury this."


The New York prosecutors then immediately relayed their concerns to the DOJ, effectively going over Strzok's head — and leading, eventually, to then-FBI Director James Comey's fateful announcement just prior to Election Day that emails possibly related to the Clinton probe had been located on Weiner's laptop.


Additionally, DOJ and OPR noted that although Strzok claimed to have "double deleted" sensitive FBI materials from his personal devices, his wife nonetheless apparently found evidence of his affair on his cellphone — including photographs and a hotel reservation "ostensibly" used for a "romantic encounter." Strzok didn't consent to turning over the devices for review, according to OPR, even as he acknowledged using Apple's iMessage service for some FBI work.


"[My wife] has my phone. Read an angry note I wrote but didn't send you. That is her calling from my phone. She says she wants to talk to [you]. Said we were close friends nothing more," one of Strzok's text to Page read, according to the filing.


"Your wife left me a vm [voicemail]. Am I supposed to respond? She thinks we're having an affair. Should I call and correct her understanding? Leave this to you to address?" Page responded.


Strzok then wrote, "I don't know. I said we were [] close friends and nothing more. She knows I sent you flowers, I said you were having a tough week."


Strzok's wife allegedly threatened to send Page's husband some of the photographs from Strzok's phone.


The messages were first flagged by Twitter user Techno Fog.


OPR and the DOJ also included a slew of Strzok and Page's anti-Trump text messages, which Strzok sent as he was overseeing the 2016 Clinton email investigation.


An after-hours email sent to Aitan Goelman, a partner with Zuckerman Spaeder LLP and one of Strzok’s lawyers, was not immediately returned.



Strzok, aveteran counterintelligence agent who led FBI investigations into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server and ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, was removed from Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team after his anti-Trump texts with Page came to light. He was fired from the FBI last August.


The motion claimed that Strzok cannot succeed on any of his claims. The document said his key role within the agency on some of its highest-profile investigations “imposed on him a higher burden of caution with respect to his speech.”


Strzok, who joined the FBI in 1998 and rose to deputy assistant director of the agency’s counterintelligence division, exchanged over 40,000 text messages on government-issued phones from August 2015 through May 2018, the motion said. One of the messages called then-candidate Trump a “disaster” and suggested that”[w]e’ll stop” him.


Republicans interpreted the text as Strzok saying that he would work to prevent Trump from being elected, but his lawsuit says the message was actually meant to reassure Page, with whom he was having an affair, that the American people would not support a Trump candidacy.
"She knows I sent you flowers, I said you were having a tough week."
— Text from Peter Strzok to Lisa Page, after Strzok's wife uncovered evidence of apparent affair

Trump seized on these messages and used Strzok as a favorite target during the Russia investigation. Trump identified these messages as proof that the investigators were biased in their investigation.


“It is because of those text messages, and the paramount importance of preserving the FBI’s ability to function as a trusted, nonpartisan institution, that Plaintiff was removed from his position, and not because of any alleged disagreement with Plaintiff's viewpoints on political issues or Tweets from the President,” the motion claimed.


The motion—which identified Attorney General William Barr as the defendant-- claimed that Strzok’s allegation that his due process rights were infringed upon would be soundly rejected due to his position on FBI’s Senior Executive Service at the time of his firing. The department also claimed that he was “given ample notice and opportunity to be heard."


Goelman said at the time that Strzok filed the lawsuit: "While many in law enforcement have faced attacks by this president, Pete Strzok has been a constant target for two years. It’s indisputable that his termination was a result of President Trump’s unrelenting


The lawsuit also says the Justice Department set out to smear Strzok's reputation and humiliate him when it disclosed nearly 400 text messages he had sent or received.

Fox News' Brooke Singman, Andrew O'Reilly and the Associated Press contributed to this report.




https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-seeks-to-dismiss-strzoks-lawsuit-claiming-he-was-denied-due-process

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Carro

Yup, Strzok's wife had his work phone and saw texts between him and Page, but miraculously didn't see anything secret or classified.

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Carro


Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump

When Lisa Page, the lover of Peter Strzok, talks about being “crushed”, and how innocent she is, ask her to read Peter’s “Insurance Policy” text, to her, just in case Hillary loses. Also, why were the lovers text messages scrubbed after he left Mueller. Where are they Lisa?

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Ziemia(6a)

Still don't know who said what to Mueller.

Even the ASM claim is just days old. Long after the day Mueller told them bye. (Who are Stephan McIntyre and ❌Austere Scholar Monsieur ❌ ?

Or, has there been a leak? Thought local Trump supporters didn't trust leakers. Is this leaked from Horowitz's report?

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Nana H

There is no disagreement that they were unprofessional , unfaithful and somewhat reckless. None of which is criminal and none of which adds up to planning a coup. The report will be out soon and then we will all have a shared set if facts to go from. Assuming we accept Horowitz report. I know I will .

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Ziemia(6a)

I'll accept Horowitz's findings. It will take work to know what they mean as there will be lots of spin, deflection, and even disinformation.

Hope the release the searchable version right away.

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margaritadina

Oh, poor Lisa. NOW she is going to play a victim? Not going to fly.

I don't care about her affair at all, but I care about her using her job position to mess with the US elections.

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lily316

I care about the president emulating orgasm in a public rally in front of children.

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patriciae_gw(07)

Well since she apparently didn't Margarita, be of good cheer.

It is amusing to see those of you all exercised about her lying. You are going to get more credibility when you call out the Liar in Chief. Situational ethics?


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catkinZ8a

It is amusing to see those of your all exercised about her lying.


___________________________

Huh?

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catkinZ8a

A traitor and a home wrecker.

I mean, how many people can you mess over at once?

A woman of unusual capability indeed. Unfortunately none of it relates to shame or personal responsibility.

What a thoroughly disgusting human being.

Their dirty deeds are forever on the record.

In 100 years time, that's all she'll be remembered for. That's her life's work. That's her deserved legacy.

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patriciae_gw(07)

The word exercised in this context mean to become all hot and bothered about something. The extra r on you was a typo. I am typing around a cat with my computer on my stomach-sorry about that. Do you want me to fix it?

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Kathy

Predication” sounds mild for what it really means; in the summer of 2016, the FBI and the intelligence community were seeing increasing signs from a variety of intelligence sources and programs (that Page cannot and will not discuss due to classification reasons) that members of the Trump campaign were tied to a variety of Russian intelligence services, and that the Russian Federation was in the midst of trying to manipulate the 2016 United States election with a sweeping information-warfare and propaganda effort. As The New York Times reported on Nov. 22, “U.S. intel services concluded, and have told Senate Republicans, that Russia mounted a massive disinformation campaign to implicate Ukraine in 2016 meddling and hide its own role.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/lisa-page-speaks-theres-no-fathomable-way-i-have-committed-any-crime-at-all

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catkinZ8a

She's so capable, she was able [to] edit Michael Flynn's 302 without being involved in the interview.

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cattyles

Are the standards for FBI agent higher than POTUS?

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Carro


catkinZ8a

She's so capable, she was able [to] edit Michael Flynn's 302 without being involved in the interview.

Have to wonder about the timing. Maybe Page was taking the temperature.

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Kathy

Minutes after President Trump was sworn in, his former national security adviser Michael Flynn told a former business partner that Russian sanctions would be 'ripped up', according to a whistleblower's account. The panel discusses.

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Jennifer

Some people will get upset at Lisa Pages morals but excuse the sexual predator in the White House

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Carro

Page is arrogant. She is so arrogant that she carried on an affair with her colleague and did it on government devices because she was so damn sure the woman she was protecting would win, and the man she was trying to destroy would lose.

S*x has the least to do with why people are upset with Page and Strzok.

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judeNY_gw

People are not upset with Page and Strzok.

Some people are emulating the feigned outrage and false distraction techniques of the cult leader who has no credibility.

How about that obstruction and quid pro quo?

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Kathy

Trump is the arrogant one destroying career professionals because he is a liar who needs to convince his supporters he won honestly without the help of Putin.

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elvis

cattyles

Are the standards for FBI agent higher than POTUS?

What kind of "standards"?

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Carro

Kathy

Trump is the arrogant one destroying career professionals because he is a liar who needs to convince his supporters he won honestly without the help of Putin.

Page resigned.

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Carro

Raise your hand if you think Lisa Page was a good employee.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

"Page is a lying liar who lies. She was ready to lie to anyone and everyone to cover her affair."

Sounds more like a description of Trump to me. Your venom may be aimed in the wrong direction.

Kate

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Carro

dublinbay z6 (KS)

"Page is a lying liar who lies. She was ready to lie to anyone and everyone to cover her affair."

Sounds more like a description of Trump to me. Your venom may be aimed in the wrong direction.

Kate

As is yours. Not everything is a nail, Kate.

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lurker111

Trump is the arrogant one destroying career professionals because he
is a liar who needs to convince his supporters he won honestly without
the help of Putin.

lol! :)

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cattyles

No harm, no foul, right? Trump is pres so what’s the problem?

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chipotle

Page had an affair. So what? It's her private business.

Donald Trump is a misogynistic bully. No other president would have done to Lisa Page what he has. He's a vulgar human being.

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patriciae_gw(07)

Raise your hand if you think Trump is a good employee. Why oh why doesn't this honest man with nothing to hide explain himself to congress and allow his posse to answer questions in congress-that balance of powers thing yall like to ignore? He lies just about every breath and well, he lies just about every breath. What else can you say?

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elvis

cattyles

No harm, no foul, right? Trump is pres so what’s the problem?

True.

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Carro

chipotle

Page had an affair. So what? It's her private business.

Just that pesky government device.

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Nana H

Totally inappropriate and worthy of disciplinary action but hardly a clandestine attempt to overthrow Trump.

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margaux

She's being viciously condemned because she used a government device to text what half the country thinks about Trump.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Exactly, margaux.

Kate

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Carro

Nana H

Totally inappropriate and worthy of disciplinary action but hardly a clandestine attempt to overthrow Trump.

Most likely the case.

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Annie Deighnaugh

Re the article above, what wikipedia says about the source: WND:

WorldNetDaily is an American news and opinion website and online news aggregator which has been described as "fringe" and far right as well as politically conservative. The website is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.

If anyone is sourcing their news and info from these guys, do yourself a favor and get a better source.

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dandyfopp

But better sources won't tell Donnie fairytales.

Great interview.

The end bit is the big truth. Donnie finds a target and his machine kicks in, Donnie fans respond like a reflex with irrational hatred.

The shoot someone on 5th brag is literal truth and it could happen to literally anyone.


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leona_2008

Remember when our presidents didn't seek out revenge on everyone who didn't worship at their feet? trump can't let go of any slight, imagined or real. Well balanced people don't do that. If trump had his priorities right and were intent on fulfilling his duties as POTUS, he wouldn't have the time or inclination to attack his every perceived enemy. Instead, he can't let anything go. his rallies are nothing short of carnival sideshows and the rest of the world is not amused but shocked and alarmed at how fall we have fallen in so short a time.

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adoptedbyhounds

Remember when our presidents didn't seek out revenge on everyone who didn't worship at their feet?

No.

“If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, ‘We’re gonna punish
our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on
issues that are important to us,’ if they don’t see that kind of upsurge
in voting in this election, then I think it’s gonna be harder and
that’s why I think it’s so important that people focus on voting on
November 2.” — Barack Obama

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lurker111

Donnie finds a target and his machine kicks in, Donnie fans respond like a reflex with irrational hatred.

I see the exact opposite. Read this forum for a good example. Crat propaganda, all day long.

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Nana H

"The end bit is the big truth. Donnie finds a target and his machine
kicks in, Donnie fans respond like a reflex with irrational hatred."

Some call the Democrats the party of hate yet look at the hate continually spewed at those who Trump chooses to target and his base join right in , even adding on. The number of malicious untruths, distortions and name calling used to destroy the character of others never stops.

Hate abounds on all sides, way too much hate.

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Ziemia(6a)

Seems criticizing Obama is a tool used (by select Trump supporters) to explain or exonerate Trump's decisions.

(Interesting way to switch to a 'but Obama', by the way.)

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bleusblue2

adoptedbyhounds

Remember when our presidents didn't seek out revenge on everyone who didn't worship at their feet?

No.

“If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, ‘We’re gonna punish
our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on
issues that are important to us,’ if they don’t see that kind of upsurge
in voting in this election, then I think it’s gonna be harder and
that’s why I think it’s so important that people focus on voting on
November 2.” — Barack Obama

~~~~

oh what a brutal and vindictive statement! Oh my lord -- focus on voting? Vicious! How did he dare! I admire the tenacity needed to find this statement.

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judeNY_gw

bleusblue2, I believe it is not tenacity that is finding all kinds of quotes, rather it is a dedicated team supplying support.

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Nana H

The context of that statement , especially if it is an answer to a question, would be interesting and helpful.

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Jonnygun(zone 7)

What a bunch of clowns some of these "career" FBI agents are. It is no wonder that they are regularly mocked by the other alphabet agencies. Counter-intelligence, lmao.

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catspa_zone9sunset14

“If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, ‘We’re gonna punish
our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on
issues that are important to us,’ if they don’t see that kind of upsurge
in voting in this election, then I think it’s gonna be harder and
that’s why I think it’s so important that people focus on voting on

November 2.” — Barack Obama


Ummm, abh, that quote does not illustrate the president seeking out revenge. Who is doing the punishing and rewarding in that sentence and what is the reward? Is withholding or conferring a vote really "revenge" or maybe the whole reward/revenge construct is used as a sort of metaphor for deciding who to vote for? What is Obama's actual concern? (Hint: it's not rewarding or punishing people.)

Trump, on the other hand, actively, blatantly, and repeatedly demeans, insults, and/or tries to inflict harm on anyone who dares not like or support him, to an extent never seen before. Not even Nixon, who was notoriously liable to hold grudges and seek revenge, was this bad.

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lurker111

Pure fantasy. ^^^

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

You beat me to that point, blues and catspa.

Voting is the way Latinos, according to Obama, will punish or reward their political friends or enemies.

Evidently Adopt disapproves of our country's democratic election system--thinks it is a way of enacting "revenge" on others.

Kate


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Carro

All those 3rd-wave, pink-hat feminists need to girdle up and stop their crying when Trump goes after a female foe.

Suck it up, ladies!

You want to make it in a man's world, quit yer bellyaching.


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carolb_w_fl_coastal_9b(zone 9/10)

Unlike some commenting here, it seems, I read the entire article on Page earlier today and it is pretty damning of this president and his party.

It's becoming more & more disturbing to witness the fervent support coming from the GOP base & other supporters of this president for proven, sometimes blatant Russian infiltration & corruption.





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Carro

carol, I dare say hardly anyone paid attention to Trump's "orgasmic' telling of Page's texts...until Page decided that she needed attention and pity and did an interview.

Well now she's got what she wanted.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Yes, she does--control of her own story!

Kate

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elvis

carolb_w_fl_coastal_9b(zone 9/10)

Unlike some commenting here, it seems, I read the entire article on Page earlier today and it is pretty damning of this president and his party.

Please point out the "damning" parts.

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cattyles

I posted a clip of trump’s disgusting, over the top, demeaning performance right here on HT the day after it happened.

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Carro

Byron York

✔@ByronYork

Replying to @ByronYork

Problem: We *already* have a Justice Department IG report from 2018 covering some aspects of Page's work. And IG has *already* found that Page showed a 'gross lack of professionalism.' (p. 423) 2/3 https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download …

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Carro

dublinbay z6 (KS)

Yes, she does--control of her own story!

Too bad she didn't have control of a whole lot of other things. But, golly, she's so empowered!!!

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Carro

Replying to @ByronYork

I saw the rally and the specific part that could be misconstrued as an "orgasm". It was funny, but it wasn't an orgasm; never even crossed my mind as being or having been intended to be that.

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Carro

Lisa Page just put that non-orgams orgam on the front page and forever associated it with her name.

#dumbmove


No one noticed! No one was talking about it! But she just couldn't resist the leftist MSM victim machine and she took the offer for attention and pity.

Dumb move, Lisa.


Bigly dumb move. Now everyone is back to thinking about Lisa Page as the woman who had s*x with Strzok and cuckolded her husband.


But it's everyone else who ruined her reputation.


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Carro

Replying to @ByronYork

I would call what Trump did mimicking pillow talk. He has never acted out an orgasm. That would be something. Lisa is confused.

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Carro

Replying to @ByronYork

I’m definitely sure that *I* know what an orgasm is, and what @realDonaldTrump did wasn’t an *orgasm reenactment* - he was acting out an overly dramatic love scene script.

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carolb_w_fl_coastal_9b(zone 9/10)

How is it that no one can notice the president's vulgar performance at a rally attended by thousands of enthusiastic supporters?

How does that work?

And presumed adults are capable of going to a website and reading an article for themselves.

Willful ignorance is a poor defense.


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catspa_zone9sunset14

All those 3rd-wave, pink-hat feminists need to girdle up and stop their crying when Trump goes after a female foe.

Suck it up, ladies!

You want to make it in a man's world, quit yer bellyaching.


Failed attempt to reframe the question, Carro.

Doesn't matter if Page is a man or a woman -- no excuse for a President to be punching down, demeaning or insulting anybody in a personal way for any reason whatsoever, and doing it with a lewd performance in front of thousands of people is just absolutely beyond the pale.

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leona_2008

Thanks, bleusblue and catspa. You both said pretty much what I would have. I do want to add that if someone, honestly of their own accord, interpreted Obama's statement as his being vindictive or telling others to seek revenge in some way other than voting (the horror!), then that explains a lot. It would seem a mind either works like Obama's or a mind works like trump's and the two mindsets are polar opposites.

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Carro


Failed attempt to reframe the question, Carro.

Oh, no it wasn't. You want to treat women like they're made of glass, then don't expect to succeed in a man's world. You want to invoke sex and say, "Twumpy so mean", then don't expect to get far in the world.

Trump is an equal-opportunity puncher. He cares not your race, creed or sex. He just punches.

But watch the "strong women" faint when he goes after them.

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catspa_zone9sunset14

You want to treat women like they're made of glass, then don't expect to succeed in a man's world.

Your assumption that there IS a "man's world" speaks volumes there, Carro. Gee, a world that belongs exclusively to men, where, apparently, people are allowed to punch, bully, and demean anybody -- doesn't exist, so far as I am concerned, nor should it. There's the world where we all live and work and try to treat each other in civil ways and that's it, as far as I am concerned.

("Man's world" didn't exist for my grandmother, either, by the way, from the 1930s onward, when she took over all the hard, physical work of running a cow/calf ranch because of my grandfather's damaged heart. So, runs in the family.)

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Carro

Of course it's a man's world. Pretending otherwise is just so fake. Why do you think it's such a big deal that a woman become POTUS? Or VEEP?

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catspa_zone9sunset14

As I said, Carro, your assumptions speak volumes. Women will of course move more and more into top positions as past impediments recede further and further into the past. No reason why they shouldn't, as long as no ground is ceded. A woman becoming POTUS in the not-distant future is a certainty.

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soupgirl53

This argument is not a winner for Trump.

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Nana H

Not sure I understand why the adultry of the part of some ( Page) matters while the same behavior, in fact oft repeated adultery, on the part of others ( Trump) matters not.

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cattyles

I will admit that I would rather the affair and the tweets remained private, kept within their private lives and private phones so to have not caused the distraction. But since that is not possible I hope Page kicks butt.

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adoptedbyhounds

"Ummm, abh, that quote does not illustrate the president seeking out revenge."

Oh but it does. One can "seek revenge" by simply advising others on how to do it. As Obama did in that quote.

"Page had an affair. So what? It's her private business."

Is that what the FBI says about employees who have affairs?

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Carro

Do the Trump haters not understand that the FBI lovers used their government devices because they assumed, arrogantly, that their texts would never be discovered?

Not by the government and not by their spouses.


Because Hillary was going to win.

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Carro

I'm betting Strzok wasn't her only affair at work.

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chipotle

How many affairs has Trump had?

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elvis

Why do you care?

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judeNY_gw

There is some bizarre inappropriate preoccupation with Page's sex life going on that reflects really poorly on those doing the obsessing. Following the cult leader.

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patriciae_gw(07)

What part of she did not try to overthrow an election are yall not getting. Or lets try it this way. What part of Russia did try to overthrow an election are you not getting. I believe they succeeded because otherwise I have to believe the American people actually elected Donald Trump.

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jerzeegirl(9b)

Actually, the American people did not elect Donald Trump. The electoral college did. It's a fact.

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paprikash

God bless the electoral college.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

And thank you, JG, for that reminder that the American people had the good sense--by nearly 3 million votes--to pick Hillary.

We can still have faith in our people, if not all our institutions (like the EC).

Kate

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jerzeegirl(9b)

Actually, the American people did not elect Donald Trump. The electoral college did. It's a fact

Funny, that EC has been doing that for a couple hundred years now. Good stuff.

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Stan Areted

More innuendo about Page being gleefully spread by our rightward marching comrades?

No innuendo needed; Lisa Girl has provided rich fodder of her own exploits.

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