Smallest workable one wall kitchen? Help with layout of open plan home
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Comments (35)Speaking of storage, what are the pros/cons of lazy susans and those pull-out corner thingies? Why does everyone seem to hate lazy susans? John, I'll send a legible floorplan. The whole first floor one is to scale, but that's not much use if you can't read the measurements... Kaismom, we have a basement that's getting progressively more organized--I'm talkin' 6-foot-tall, 2-foot-deep wire shelves with stuff stacked on them! I amaze myself lately, haha--and we're also planning on putting an upright freezer there. But as you suggested, we are going to need more basement shelves so that the ones nearest the basement-to-kitchen door can be dedicated to cases of San Pellegrino and the like. (Our garage is integral so groceries come in through the basement.) Also, am I delusional for thinking that the storage in a remodel with anything like this floorplan will be more than adequate? We've lived here for a few years now with NOTHING but a run of base and wall cabinets along the north wall, two tiny uppers perched high on the east wall to the left of the DR door, and only one (one!!!) drawer. (And this drawer, which is somewhere between 50 and 70+ years old, is hard to open!) Seriously. Our trash can is sitting over by the fridge and our recycling goes in cardboard boxes under the aforementioned hideous triangular peninsula. We have pretty Asian bowls displayed on bookcases because there is no room for them in the kitchen. The idea of having multiple drawers--dedicated drawers, one for each purpose!! Omigod!!--just makes me swoon. My DH is on the accumulator side and I'm on the not-accumulator side. I tend to operate like, "Oh, that's a cute timer/pie slicer/set of measuring spoons, but I already have a timer/pie slicer/set of measuring spoons. So I guess I can't get that." I have actually given pans to Goodwill because some relative gave us a better version of the same kind of pan as a gift. And I'm the one who cooks; I can't really see him buying kitchen stuff spontaneously of his own volition. So hopefully the kitchen won't morph into clutter hell. Our one great weakness is books......See MoreLayout help - please help me plan a functional kitchen!
Comments (14)florantha - yes, I would want to protect the range from traffic more than in that last layout. The suggestions of opening up the long wall on the left are interesting, I don't think they are right for our family. We do want to keep a table in the kitchen and upon reflection, I don't really want the kitchen completely open to the family room since a little separation is nice when friends are over and the kids are watching a movie in there. I do think that the thoughts are ideas that could inspire other readers in their own planning. I am leaning toward option C (last) in the original post, but I am a little hesitant about the fridge location. I like it along the back wall because it leaves the sides of the room more open, giving more of a feeling of connection to the family room and to the outside through the window on the right wall. The room is long and my idea was to place the bulky fridge to shorten the room, not narrow it. Placing the fridge on the back wall in the corner also allows room for a bigger (deeper) fridge without interfering with traffic in the room - I'd like to maximize my fridge space without going to the expense of a large built in. But I also know that it's preferable to have the fridge on the perimeter of the kitchen. The proposed location would not drive traffice through the prep and cooking area, but perhaps it's still a bad plan? Feedback would be appreciated. For Layout C, the shallow pantry on the left side of the room is 12" cupboards, the space from there to the island is 41", the island is 41" wide, and the space from the island to the cleanup sink is 48". I've pulled the counters on the back wall so that the counters would be 30". Sorry not to have added these dimensions to the drawings....See MoreKitchen layout help please! Old house. Brick walls.
Comments (10)do you think there’s any way to get the sink onto that peninsula? Not the sink and the DW, and a prep space, which should be beside the water source. You could add a prep sink to the peninsula, and keep the clean-up sink in its existing location. With a basement, moving plumbing a few feet shouldn't be a big problem (in the grand plan). You might think that the kitchen is too small for two sinks, but you could choose where to prep, and if you have help in the kitchen, you'd have separate work areas. If you wanted to return the prep sink to counter/serving area, get an integrated cutting board. Having the prep sink on the island would allow you to move the range down toward the window, leaving more counter between it and the fridge, and would give you a bit of step-back space when opening the oven door. I don't think I'd put the fridge any deeper in the kitchen, especially with the narrow work aisle, which is also a traffic aisle to the back door. ETA, I'd keep the wider table. We have a multipurpose room, 12 x 24 on the outside, with window seats and closets on one exterior wall. The other long wall has a cabinet with a prep sink (while it's technically not in the prep space, I love my second sink), another closet and a bumped-in area which is the former exterior part of the chimney. So, we have about the same width to set up tables for holiday dinners. We use 30" x 72" folding tables, which are fine for an occasional meal, but there is no space on the tables for any serving pieces larger than s&p shakers and a butter dish. Every holiday meal is served buffet-style, which is still better than balancing a plate on one's knees in the LR....See MoreOpen plan kitchen layout
Comments (6)Since most of us on GW are from the USA, let's start by converting your measurements: 1 meter = 3.28' or 39.37" So, 8.3m = 27.23' or 326.77" 6m = 19.68' or 236.22" Other measurements: 1.3m = 51.18" 1.5m = 59.06" 2.4m = 94.49" 2.5m = 98.43" Sofa: 2.5m x 2.5m Pool Table: 2.4m x 1.3m +++ A few questions for you. Could you please provide additional information: Please post a sketch of the entire floor (unless this is the entire floor...if so, there must be stairs somewhere leading up and/or down to bedrooms, bathrooms, etc.). The sketch will help us see how the Kitchen relates to the rest of the home as well as how traffic flows in, around, and through the Kitchen and, in your case, the Dining and Family Rooms. It would be very helpful if you labeled all the dimensions in the room. The widths of each wall/window/door/doorway and the distances between each wall/window/door/doorway. Counting boxes can be prone to error, both counting the tiny boxes as well as estimating partial boxes. It's really better to provide the actual measurements. I'm posting a picture at the end of a sample layout that we usually ask for. Where are you flexible? What can/cannot change? If something cannot be changed, please tell us why (we may come up with ideas you hadn't thought of). Can walls/windows/doors/doorways be changed? If something cannot be changed, please locate it precisely on the layout (see the sample below). What appliances are you planning? Sizes? Where is your family entrance? In particular, where do you bring groceries into the home? What other doors & windows are there? Where are the bedrooms, etc.? Could you tell us about you and your family? It helps us understand what the space has to handle. E.g., is this an all-adult household (1 or 2 or more?) or do you also have children (or plan to have children)? If all adults, how many cook? Cleanup? Does cooking & cleaning up ever take place at the same time? . All of this and more is included in our Layout Help FAQ: https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5500789/faq-how-do-i-ask-for-layout-help-what-information-should-i-include Also helpful: Ice.Water.Stone.Fire: https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2699918/looking-for-layout-help-memorize-this-first Work Zones, What Are They Aisles Widths, Seating Overhangs, etc. Storage Planning...See MoreRelated Professionals
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