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Comments (17)Chris, Thank you for your continued comments. 1. Do you have a preference out of the two options of the top roofline as in the previous post? If I go with the architect's design, I would keep the same pitches for all top roof sections to get rid of the sharp angle. I also understand that I may need to align the walls or do some cantilever roof/2nd floor to allow for my simplification. 2. How about the two gables? Are they appropriate here or you like all hipped roofs better? These are the two main decisions that I need to make before we settle on a general form of design. There are many other issues to consider when we move on to the next stage. Re: SU drawings It is hard for me to articulate what I dislike about the current design or what a desired design would be. I was trying to use SU to communicate my ideas to the architect. If you see this as distraction other than help with the ideas, I guess I really shall refrain from doing more drawings. The architect must be frustrated with my attempt to revise the roofs / exteriors too. He really think there is not much to be revised architecturally. He did not recommend me talking to builders about construction cost as he said they would simply charge me more when they saw such a beautiful house designed by an architect :). Well, I have been worried if the house looks so bad that it would not be acceptable to our neighbors or an average buyer. Talking about perception difference. Re: Garage offset outside building line While the HOA CCR calls for 7ft side setbacks, the subdivision plat from the city requires 10ft. I already did a hearing with the city and obtained approval of the left neighbor side 7ft setback when I was doing the planning with the first designer. The architect said he needed the extra 3ft to open the view from the great room/breakfast area. He said he would submit the construction document to see permit and if not approved he can change it. I would rather do a second hearing before finalizing the plan....See MoreShe's not a looker! Experimenting with roof pitch?
Comments (10)I like your inspiration photos. IMO what makes them work is that they are relatively small buildings with proportionately large windows. Also the inspiration pictures vertical ratio of wall:roof is greater than one. You also have high width to depth ratio in the inspiration picture (possibly >2) while your width:depth is ~1.5. Although I like the no eaves modern look, depending on your climate it might not be the best choice for long term maintenance or for providing shade for your windows. I appreciate the efficiency of your design so hopefully there are some tricks that could be used to dress it up a little without adding tons of cost. Maybe a small gable over your entry or a porch? This will help visitors easily identify the front door and also make it so snow (if that is a thing in your climate?) sheds to the left or right of the front door rather than right on the door step or a trellis across part of the front with climbing vines to provide some shade? This designer focuses on energy efficiency and low cost houses and has many houses with similar efficient footprints. I wouldn't call their houses beautiful but you might get some ideas looking at them....See MoreIs a 12/10 pitch the same as a 10/12 pitch? Vaulted ceiling question.
Comments (32)The continuing confusion in this thread is due to the fact that the rise/run is shown on opposite or opposing pitches on an elevation. The architect's notation is correctly shown. It's some of the folks on this thread that are misinterpreting what is shown. Looking at the elevations, the horizontal element is always shown as 12, regardless of the elevation side or direction of pitch. The horizontal element is consistently 12! 12! The vertical dimension is the pitch dimension and in the elevation it is consistently shown as 10! 10! Thus, on each opposing sides of the roof, the roof pitch is 10 in 12, but the geometry of the notation 10/12 has to be reversed to match the change in opposite pitch. Just look at the elevations and the horizontal and vertical notations. Vertical is always 10. Horizontal is always 12. It's that simple! 10/12 is not the same as 12/10! Come on people! I don't know what experience that response comes from. The numerator is always the vertical axis. The denominator is always the horizontal axis. Thus, it's clear that 10/12 is not the same as 12/10! I have never seen a set of construction drawings or known a roofer that measures horizontally in less than 12 inches. Does anyone think a 4 in 12 pitch is the same as a 12 in 4 pitch? Come on! The denominator is always 12 inches. It's the standard of the trade. It's the way a framing square is marked! As for architects being a strange group and not above making things confusing that could be simpler, just go back and re-read this thread, from top to bottom, largely made up of comments from non-architects. Now that's confusing! And inaccurate! Thus endeth the lesson on roof pitch and notation! :-)...See MoreNeed exterior update advice- flat roof to pitched roof
Comments (11)Don't get me wrong. I love my house the way it is, but I have gone thru two membrane systems in six years and am in a constant state of anxiety, wondering where my next leak will be. If it weren't such an issue, here in Western Pennsylvania, I would embrace it and run with it. Finding a roofer to work on it is nearly impossible as they are so uncommon locally (except for commercial spaces....and those guys don't care about residential projects). The last roof has created an issue that has destroyed the cedar in the back of the house, which the last roofer denies responsibility for. It has been a fight and I am tired of it....See MoreUser
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