Testimony TRX Shows Taylor Never Talked To Trump--Wasn't On 7-25 Call

catkinZ8a

They don't want the *leaker* to testify because their entire SHAM is collapsing!

Bill Taylor wasn't even on the call!



Testimony Transcript Shows William Taylor Never Talked To Trump, Wasn’t Even On July 25 Phone Call

A top anti-Trump witness for House Democrats admitted he wasn't on the July 25 phone call and had never even spoken with Trump about Ukraine military aid.


NOVEMBER 6, 2019 By Sean Davis


A key Democratic witness against Trump admitted in congressional testimony last month that he was not part of the July 25 phone call between the U.S. and Ukrainian presidents, that he didn’t see a transcript or readout of it until late September when it was declassified and released, and that he has never even spoken to President Donald Trump.


William Taylor, the charge d’affairs of the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv, Ukraine, told lawmakers in secret testimony two weeks ago that his opinions about an alleged quid pro quo demanded by Trump were formed largely from conversations with anti-Trump staffers within the diplomatic bureaucracy.


“[Y]ou’ve never spoken to Mr. [Rudy] Giuliani?” Taylor was asked.

“No, no,” he replied.

“Has anyone ever asked you to speak to Mr. Giuliani?”

“No,” Taylor said.

“And if I may, have you spoken to the president of the United States?” Taylor was asked.

“I have not,” he said.

“You had no communications with the president of the United States?”

“Correct,” Taylor said.


He also admitted he had never spoken to Mick Mulvaney, Trump’s chief of staff.


When asked who exactly he had spoken to about the brouhaha, Taylor confirmed that his only contacts about the matter were with John Bolton, the former national security adviser who was fired by Trump, Fiona Hill, Alexander Vindman, and Tim Morrison. Both Hill and Vindman are rumored to have been sources for the so-called whistleblower who filed a complaint against Trump in August.

Taylor also testified that his knowledge of the phone call between Trump and Ukrainian president Volodymr Zelensky wasn’t first-hand knowledge.


“And this isn’t firsthand. It’s not secondhand. It’s not thirdhand,” Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., said to Taylor. “But if I understand this correctly, you’re telling us that Tim Morrison told you that Ambassador Sondland told him that the president told Ambassador Sondland that Zelensky would have to open an investigation into Biden?”


“That’s correct,” Taylor admitted.


Zeldin noted that the only reference to Democratic presidential candidate and former Vice President Joe Biden in Taylor’s opening statement stemmed from that convoluted game of telephone. The New York lawmaker hammered Taylor for relying on third-hand information about the state of mind of an elected official to whom he had never spoken.


“So do you have any other source that the president’s goal in making this request was anything other than The New York Times?” Zeldin asked.

“I have not talked to the president,” Taylor said. “I have no other information from what the president was thinking.”


Under questioning from Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, Taylor also testified that the Ukrainian government wasn’t aware U.S. military funding had been temporarily suspended until late August, and then only after the information was leaked to the news media, meaning an alleged quid pro quo would have been impossible.


“So, if nobody in the Ukrainian government is aware of a military hold at the time of the Trump-Zelensky call, then, as a matter of law and as a matter of fact, there can be no quid pro quo, based on military aid,” Ratcliffe, a former federal prosecutor, said. “I just want to be real clear that, again, as of July 25th, you have no knowledge of a quid pro quo involving military aid.”


“July 25th is a week after the hold was put on the security assistance,” Taylor testified. “And July 25th, they had a conversation between the two presidents, where it was not discussed.”


“And to your knowledge, nobody in the Ukrainian government was aware of the hold?” Ratcliffe asked.


“That is correct,” Taylor responded.


Taylor also testified that he didn’t see any official readout of the July 25 phone call until it was declassified and released by Trump in late September.


“I did not see any official readout of the call until it was publicly released on September 25th,” he said.



https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/06/testimony-transcript-shows-william-taylor-never-talked-to-trump-wasnt-even-on-july-25-phone-call/

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catkinZ8a

Schiffty is very unhappy with this particular useful idiot at this point.

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Wants to Grow

Hi catkin, wasn’t it reported that Bill Taylor is supposed to appear again for the first open hearing?

Schiffty must have a masochistic streak for embarrassment.

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catkinZ8a

Desperate times for the dems.

As Dad would say--you can't get blood out of a turnip.

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Izzy Mn(4)

In response to the op statement. So what, he was on the receiving end of the plot and interacted with those who were involved.

Just like a mob boss. They always have stuff done at arm's length. There is always someone between. Al Capone orchestrated crime they couldn't get a conviction on. He was convicted for tax evasion.

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Carro

Opinion, inferences, conclusions and zero first-hand knowledge.

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Carro

Yovanovich's testimony is now in question. Lee Zeldin caught another problem with these "witnesses".

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Carro

Democrat staffer(s) reached out to Yovanovich before her testimony and she responded. C'mon. How dirty can Schiff get?

That contradicts her testimony.

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graywings123(7)

“I would like you to do us a favor, though, because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it," Trump said, in reference to those investigations.
“Whatever you can do, it’s very important that you do it if that’s possible,” Trump says.
Trump soon adds: “The other thing: There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution, and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can so with the Attorney General would be great.”

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Carro

Yovanovitch got contacted through the official email channel, to which she didn't respond ... but then turned around and contacted that person through a private email regarding the subject in the official email.

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adoptedbyhounds

Biden said fire the investigator or you won’t get the foreign aid.

Specific demand for a specific reward to be met within six hours.

The good news is that he bragged about how well it worked!

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ubro(2a)

Biden said fire the investigator or you won’t get the foreign aid.

"Two wrongs don't make a right".

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Wants to Grow

"Two wrongs don't make a right"

Hi ubro, Are you agreeing Joe used extortion to force Ukraine to fire their prosecutor?

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jerzeegirl(9b)

Fat Donald was on the call and tried to bribe the Ukranians. And there were witnesses.

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Delilah66

fire the investigator or you won’t get the foreign aid.”


Fire the inspector general Shokin because he’s not addressing corruption in re Zlochevsky or you won’t get the foreign aid. FIXED IT!

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maifleur01

I must have worked at the wrong places or at least places that had procedures to follow. It was completely normal and expected to ask questions privately rather than through official channels. Those official channels were shared by too many people.

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kadefol

Aww, poor trump, everyone's out to get him via lies and fake news!! And he actually has to abide by laws and the constitution instead of being able to do exactly what he wants to do, like all the other dictators. So unfair!!

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Wants to Grow

Hi kadefol, please name one law Trump has broken.

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cattyles

Same answer no matter how many times you ask.

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kadefol

Well, for one, trump's attempt to subvert our electoral process by blackmailing a
foreign country to eliminate a strong challenger in the upcoming
election is treason. As far as I know, that's illegal.

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Wants to Grow

Hi kadefol, Not according to your star witness:

Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky said Thursday there was no blackmail involved during a telephone call with President Donald Trump that has since set in motion an impeachment inquiry.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/10/ukraine-volodymyr-zelensky-says-there-was-no-blackmail-in-trump-call.html 

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kadefol

^^ Guess we'll just have to wait for the impeachment hearing.

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kadefol

^^ yes, lots of shady actions to choose from.

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Annie Deighnaugh

So what? Taylor still is adding relevant information, and far more was going on than just a single phone call.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/07/gops-bogus-ukraine-defenses-are-snowballing/

For example, the NYT article he cites:

It quotes none other than Giuliani himself — extensively — admitting that this was an effort to get information for his “client.”

Giuliani admitted he was “meddling in an investigation, which we have a right to do."

“There’s nothing illegal about it,” Giuliani said. “Somebody could say it’s improper. … I’m asking them to do an investigation that they’re doing already and that other people are telling them to stop. And I’m going to give them reasons they shouldn’t stop it because that information will be very, very helpful to my client, and may turn out to be helpful to my government.”

It’s difficult to read “very, very helpful to my client, and may turn out to be helpful to my government” as anything other than Giuliani admitting this is a political effort aimed at digging up dirt. He even admits any benefit to the U.S. government is ancillary.



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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

Giuliani -- Trump's gift to Adam Schiff.

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ubro(2a)

Hi kadefol, Not according to your star witness:

Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky said Thursday there was no blackmail involved during a telephone call with President Donald Trump that has since set in motion an impeachment inquiry.

As has been pointed out, Zelensky is not a star witness he is a pawn, doing Trump's bidding.

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Wants to Grow

Hi ubro, unlike the political activist, whom Schiffty wants to be called a WB, Zelensky was actually on the call.

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Annie Deighnaugh

Zelensky was also asked with trump sitting right next to him...if you're sitting next to don corleone, you going to rat him out on TV? I think not.

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