Dem candidates one year out

Ann

It just doesn't seem like one is rising to the top. I think Warren's plan to pay for M4A is going to hurt her (even though I respect her putting it out there). Biden, oh Biden. That guy is simply fighting his mental aging process. Bernie's kind of lovable, but seems to have about a 15% ceiling of solid support. Maybe Buttigieg? Or, are Dems waiting for a new entrant?

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maifleur01

Not a Dem could have been a Deb but I am waiting for new people to enter the race. None of the current crop do I feel will draw any undecided voters to the polls.

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Ann

Maifleur, I agree. I think it's a rather perplexing situation at present. For a time, I felt like leaders were emerging, but not so much anymore. Each seems too have too many drawbacks.

I can't remember who it was on Fox News in recent days (maybe Jesse), but they said if Warren would have placed herself right of Bernie and left of Biden, she would have found a perfect spot. But, she didn't. I respect that she stuck to her views, but I think her views aren't aligned with America's voters.

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foodonastump

It’s a mess. Leave it to the Dems to lose not only to the worst candidate, but then to the worst president. Could Buttigieg really be my first choice? I think it’s too late to hope for anyone else to jump in..

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Ann

Maifleur, I have a question for you, if you are willing.

If Warren or Bernie were the Dem candidate, would you be able to place a vote for them, or are they too far left for your vote? I know you are on Medicare and I'm wondering, as a Medicare recipient, would their plans for Medicare for all make you nervous about the changes that would bring to traditional Medicare services and doc/surgery availability/wait times likely brought on by lower pay for all docs. I think you've expressed you do not like Trump as president, so I wouldn't imagine you'd vote for him. Would you skip a vote for president or could you vote for Warren or Bernie?

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Ann

FOAS, I think it could be getting a bit late too.

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catkinZ8a

They all have young social justice warrior activists telling them what to do and say.

America's had it up to here with the Leftie's framing everything though their lens of political correctness.

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Iris GW

Vote blue no matter who.

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Ann

FOAS, it can become a mess. I certainly felt that way when it got down to McCain as the likely GOP nominee and then he actually became the nominee. I never thought he had a chance.

Along the same line as my question to Maifleur, how do some of you more moderate Dems feel about the two furthest left candidates (Bernie and Warren)? Could you vote for them or have they veered too far left for you?

How do the more moderate Dems feel about M4A? Is that the healthcare direction you want?

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Joaniepoanie

catkin


America's had it up to here with the Leftie's framing everything though their lens of political correctness.

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And America has had it up to here with Trump—- the constant lies, chaos, incompetence.

I will vote for any Dem candidate. Even if they aren’t my top choice, anyone would be better than Trump.

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woodnymph2_gw

I'm with Joanie. I might feel both Bernie and Warren are a bit left of my center but if either is the candidate, they have my vote. That's a promise!

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Ann

"Vote blue no matter who."

"I will vote for any Dem candidate."

Got it from you two. Thanks for your opinion.

ETA: And woodnymph.

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maifleur01

Ann at this point having seen what has happened in other countries with leaders like Trump I would vote for the local dog catcher if one was qualified. While I think he will win again because of the third party voting the quagmire that this country will be rapidly sinking into by the end of his second term terrifies me having seen it happen in so many other countries.

I also believe that something will happen either caused by him or others, as seen in other countries, to keep him in office after his second term. History has a way of repeating if not in the same country other ones.

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woodnymph2_gw

maifleur, that is the scariest scenario ever, for the America we grew up in. But I've read a lot of history and unfortunately, I believe what you predict could well come true.

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Iris GW

And his supporters would support it.

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maifleur01

I did not comment on the Medicare but similar to every health insurance plan I have ever had it changes every year. Sometimes for the good other times for the bad. While it might happen that the initial changes to provide health care for the nation might happen at the higher ages it is more likely to happen starting with the younger generations. As they age they will consider any coverage that they have as normal where older generations would always complain about the changes.

I do worry about the current administration making so many changes to what Medicare covers that it will be unusable. However since most need additional insurance and that additional insurance must have things in it that are acceptable to the individual state insurance department those type of policies are what to be watching. Some have already removed certain types of healthcare that are considered problems of younger people.

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paprikash

If Biden had run in 2016 he would have had my vote. I was anti Hillary and lukewarm Trump. Now, Biden is pitiful, the other dems currently running are goofy and Trump has proven to be a fabulous President in spite of everything thrown at him (some deserved but mostly undeserved partisan junk). His personality may not be my cup of tea but my oh my he is a great leader for the USA. He deserves 4 more years and a cooperating congress — hope he gets it.

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John Barron

Until death do us part!

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gyr_falcon(Sunset 23)

A republican faux independent lamenting the choices for the Democratic presidential nominee---oh, my! Warren is left of me, and I don't know who I support yet, even though I have eliminated some from my preferred list. But I'd be more than willing to vote for her simply as an exxed-you to trump supporters, and I might end up doing just that.

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elvis

But I'd be more than willing to vote for her simply as an exxed-you to trump supporters, and I might end up doing just that.

Well, that's just rude.

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Ann

Lol, I kind of get that. I have developed some pretty strong feelings about the anti-Trump people. I did not feel the same way about Dems 5 years ago as I do now. Even Dem family members who I used to see fairly regularly, I am less excited about spending time with now. I still see them, but less often and with a bit of an "oh dear" feeling before the get together.

Heck, 10 years ago, I thought Dems were really nice and accepting/inclusive people.

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maifleur01

Sometimes it is just better to separate people from their party and/or what they do for a living and enjoy the face that each of you present to the other. If someone is in your face or displays things such that you dislike in you actual life just move on.

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lily316

I have been a Pete Buttigieg fan since I discovered him. I have the same feeling about him as when I first discovered Obama in 2004. He checks all the boxes for me, thoughtful, so intelligent, caring, loving, and empathetic.I'm not crazy for Biden and I think both he and Bernie are too old. I like Warren but she's a little more left than I like but I will vote for my dog if he decides to run so ANY democrat has my vote to get rid of the scourge on our country.

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Joaniepoanie

Trump a great leader deserving of four more years?

Speechless.

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foodonastump
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gyr_falcon(Sunset 23)

Well, that's just rude.

LOL Well I've read for YEARS that coruptrump supporters post numerous times that they voted the way they did to do so to the democrats, but NOW it is suddenly "rude" since a democrat has said it. Yeah, when they do it, it must be different in your mind. I've also not called trump names, but now that I have, suddenly that will be unacceptable, too.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I'm still in no rush--plenty of time to make a decision about which Dem. candidate to support. I'm waiting to see how primary voters respond as the different states have their primaries--and especially how black voters will respond to the Dem. slate which is rather white at the top. As someone on MSNBC this morning commented, the black vote is very important to Dems, especially black women. We need them turning out at the 80-90%--like they did for Obama. They may not be overly enthusiastic for our top Dem. candidates, but they will likely be as strongly motivated against Trump as most of the other Dems. are, so things may work out well there.

I remember who was being interviewed this morning--Kamala Harris. She said that S.Carolina will be the big test for the Dems. since that will be the first primary which has large numbers of black voters. I'm inclined to agree with her--between the initial white primaries and then the S.Carolina primary, we should get a fairly good idea what direction the Dem. voters are inclining.

Kate

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elvis

Well I've read for YEARS that coruptrump supporters post numerous times that they voted the way they did to do so to the democrats, but NOW it is suddenly "rude" since a democrat has said it

I have no way of knowing what other sites you frequent, but I've been here quite a bit longer than you have, and I assure you that I haven't read such posts here.

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Carro

Heck, 10 years ago, I thought Dems were really nice and accepting/inclusive people.

Heck, I thought that 4 years ago.

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maifleur01

I remember Kate and you are correct. But then memories are often shortened when people do not want to remember.

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Carro

That sounds sciency.

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steve2416

I think like Kate does that there is plenty of time. One thing I know for sure: I would vote for a dogcatcher or a garbage pick up man or anyone honest over Trump. Whoever else we vote in if they are a Democrat the odds are great that they will be literate and that would be a refreshing change.

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Stan Areted

Ann:

It just doesn't seem like one is rising to the top.


I agree. None of them are "cream."

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elvis

I think HC will step up at the 11th hour to save civilization as we know it.

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Carro

elvis, I'm waiting for it.

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Chi

I'm not worried. A lot can change in a year. But like many others, it truly doesn't matter. Anyone but Trump. I suspect millions feel the same.

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Carro

Anyone but an open-borders, GND Socialist. That would be Trump. The capitalist.

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Chi

How can 2020 be a sequel if it hasn't happened yet?

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Jennifer

There has never been in our history a more despicable unbalanced person in the White House.

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foodonastump

Maybe no too late to jump in?


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haydayhayday

I've been thinking in the past few days about how interesting it would be if one of the far left, Warren or Sanders, were to lock up the Democratic nomination somehow and THEN have the Republicans put up a very moderate candidate that is NOT Trump.

Suddenly all the ANYONE-BUT-TRUMP voters running to Warren or Sanders would have a very reasonable candidate that is NOT-FAR-LEFT.

Bloomberg should run on the Republican ticket?

Hay



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Jennifer

Pete is one point behind Warren and Biden is five points back in a CNN Iowa poll.

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Ann

Hayday, I don't think Bloomberg would get anywhere trying to primary Trump.

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catkinZ8a

America's not going to elect Saint Pete.

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Linda

Personally, I couldn't bring myself to vote for Sanders, so I'm not a ABT'er!

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woodnymph2_gw

I wonder how well Bloomberg would do out in the fly-over states. On the two coasts, I think he would do well. But he is 77, another "oldie but goodie."

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lily316

So now we have five 70 somethings. And some say Pete is too young. Rather young than doddering old men.

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rob333 (zone 7a)

I'm waiting to see any and all candidates including independent, green, and other republicans. Nothing is a shoo-in. I know all those on this board are rabidly into trump, but that doesn't mean the rest of the nation is, or that it will stay that way. It's too early to decide anything.


ETA: see? There are other republicans already running: https://ballotpedia.org/Republican_presidential_nomination,_2020. Bob Corker for instance. He'd be the fifth Tennessean in office.

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