Unknown Rose Seed from China
Ilene Lippincott
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Let's see photos of your volunteer roses or roses from seeds
Comments (52)I'm sure some of our found roses are self seedlings which volunteered somewhere. Rose seeds have long been available commercially, and particularly Chinas and "Fairy Roses" were distributed as seeds. R. Xanthina was brought to the US by Meyer (of Meyer Lemon fame) as seeds and raised once here. He found both single and double forms from those seeds. Slater's Crimson China, among others, was sent out as seed. It is very successful as a self seeder, too. Any wonder why there are so many variations, all identified as Slater's Crimson China? If "grandma" planted some seeds, or some came up in her garden, of course only the most vigorous, healthiest would have been selected to maintain. Those would likely have been the ones relatives passed around and even planted in the family plots. Often, selfs resemble the parents quite closely. Not exactly, but close enough for someone to look at them and proclaim they are this, or that variety. Grow them side by side and you'll see differences. Micro sports also occur all the time, altering basic traits just enough to change the rose so it's no longer the original. You might find a less, or more, double mutation. Take a look at Awakening and New Dawn. They COULD be mistaken for the same rose if you didn't know one or the other well enough, but they aren't the SAME rose. Kim...See MoreRose seeds from China on Ebay !!!
Comments (6)What Jeri said, PLUS, order those seeds and the USDA will intercept them and send you a letter telling you not to do that again. To bring ANY kind of plant material into the US legally, you MUST have an import permit. I have just done this and it is a pain in the REAR. Import inspection fees are outrageous (upwards of $700 for them to walk your import through customs as is now required by law, if you don't live near an entry point where they will LET you do it, I don't) plus all of the B.S. fees which are now imposed to help fund the government. Those seeds are deliberate fraud. Those roses do not exist naturally, just as the blue, bright green and patchwork ones don't. Most come from China and they know they are fraud. They also know they are going to collect your money and your government won't let you receive them. They post that all import fees and restrictions are YOUR responsibility, so you have nothing to complain about them on EBay or to Paypal for. It isn't their fault if you don't read. You never get the seeds; you never raise them to determine you've been lied to and they did "warn you". They win, no matter what. Yes, it's only a "few bucks", but how many fools does it take at a few bucks each to have them raking it in? Don't even think about trying to sneak things in to avoid the hassle. The USDA IS levying fines of $30,000 to punish people and nurseries for not following the rules. If you go through the garbage to obtain the permit, expect to pay for a County Ag agent to visit you at least twice over the two year quarantine period, which WILL be a minimum of $80 a visit, more if you live more than the minimum from their office and if they spend more than half an hour at your location. Where in your yard can you grow the seed a minimum of 10' from anything in the Genus Rosa? It has become virtually impossible for most of us to import anymore. These seeds are theft. Be forewarned! Kim...See MoreA Rose From China
Comments (5)Linda, my plant isn't yet mature enough to answer that -- tho it does need to get into the ground soon. The name, Ping Dong Yue Ji apparently, literally, means "The Monthly-Blooming Rose from Ping Dong [County]" and little is known of its actual origin. But I am happy to have it. It has been compared to 'Cels Multiflora,' introduced in France in 1836, but of unknown parentage. Which came first? The chicken? Or the egg? Was it bred in France, and was carried to China? OR was it a Chinese rose to begin with, imported and introduced in France? Jeri...See MoreUnknown Rose #2 in Niles - Overacker (Fremont California)
Comments (12)"'Slaters Crimson' has a clan? Does that mean there is lots of variability among roses that are 'Slaters Crimson'? Or different cultivars originating from 'Slaters Crimson'? or descendants? or?" What Christopher said. There is a slew of Chinas of this type floating through nurseries and gardens, and some of them are undoubtedly seedlings from 'Slater's' , 'Cramoisi Superieur' or 'Louis Phillippe' (or something else!). There is a great deal of confusion about this group of plants, and its impossible to say for sure which is "the real deal", or a seedling/imposter. If you are determined to find an indisputable ID for the rose, you will drive yourself mad! Be happy you can say with reasonable certainty that "its one of those red Chinas - you know the ones I'm talking about"....See MoreIlene Lippincott
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