Beautiful, Sara Ann!

Gorgeous!!! Unrelated question but do you grow your Francis Dubreil with or without winter protection, Sarah Ann?

Incredible blooms Sara Ann

What a lovely, rich color!

Ooooooh--I do love the dark reds!

Kate

Exquisite! DD has gorgeous bud normally, but these are extra special.

Oooh I need that one! I passed it by at Lowes a few times. They weren't blooming though. I will get one next time. Such a deep luscious red.

sultry, it does BS for me, but I'd try it anyway! I'm hiding them behind other roses since they die-back here and grow tall and straight. : ))

Thanks Vap. Thats good to know!

WOW! What a wonderful' corsage'...Thank you Sara-Ann, for sharing your lovely blooms.

Thank you all so much. As this rose matures I am detecting more fragrance, not strong, but pleasant.

Beautiful Sara Ann! I just planted one this summer and haven't seen any blooms just yet. How long have you had yours in? We were down to 32 degrees last night so I cut any blooms I had and brought them in the house. I know your supposed to let them harden off, but I needed that last push of summer. Thank you for posting! I can't wait for next summer!

Thank you Nola! Mine are in their third season, both are own root, which for me is the exception, especially with Kordes roses, which are mostly on multiflora. Kind of wondering what it would be like on multiflora. They seemed to get a pretty good start since the beginning, but I definitely think the blooms from this season have been the best, and the reason I wanted this rose in the first place. Mine has been blackspot resistant, and this has been a very wet year. I certainly hope yours does good for you.

Thank you! I just planted it August 17th and it's really leafing out well. It also is own root and no blackspotting so far. Have you found it to get a little too vigorous? I read that it has to be pruned hard to keep a nice bush form.

Nola, I don’t think it’s too vigorous, but it is vigorous, mine in the ground is just Under 5 ft., that is about the right size for me. The other one is in a pot, it is fairly compact, but healthy, but I definitely need to get it in ground next year.

Sara can you suggest any other roses that you feel really perform, are fragrant and blackspot resistant in your garden?

Sarah, does yours get winter die back?

Vaporvac, Dark Desire doesn’t have any die back here.

Nola, three fragrant Kordes that do very good for me are ZAIDE, BEVERLY and SAVANNAH. POSEIDON doesn’t have the fragrance, but has been a very good rose for me.

A few non Kordes roses that are fragrant and also good performers are FRANCIS MEILLAND, ORCHID ROMANCE, GRANDE DAME, and new to me this year POPE JOHN PAUL II on multiflora has been great and BELINDA‘S DREAM, which is fragrant for some is a very good rose.

I would love to post some pictures, it won’t let me post even one right now, this is getting old!

BD and Zade are great.

I’m in love with Zaide’s blooms! It’s one you don’t hear about much, but just a lovely lilac pink, and so fragrant. :-)

Perma, do you have a picture of yours? I love it too!

Here’s a picture of my Zaide

They are recovering from our terrible heat, and actually look dreadful right now. But I’m the spring they were really pretty (alas, I didn’t get photos then) so I’m hoping they’ll bounce back now that’s it’s finally cooling down. 77 and glorious today! :-)

Meant also to say that your Zaide, Sara Ann is beautiful! Mine are half that big, only planted last spring. I hope mine look that great next year!!

When did you plant that one? :-)

Beautiful picture of Zaide! Thank you Sara Ann I'll have to check out the ones you listed. I've had my eye on Poseiden. I have Pope John Paul beautiful rose that lasts in the vase and nice fragrance. So many of the roses I have don't last well when cut.

Thank you Vaporvac for the thumbs up on Zaide and Belinda's Dream, I will check out both. What are your top performers with fragrance and without?

Zaide blooms ALL the time. It does experience BS, but regrows leaves quickly. Lovely fragrance and a lax growth habit that suits a tuteur well. The blooms last a long time on the bush and fall neatly when spent.

For fragrance and health in terms of BS the following stand out. I have many other fragrant climbers and bushes but have only had them in the ground for a short while so I don't want to recommend them quite yet.

Proven fragrant climbers thus far are NewDawn/Awakening, Viking Queen, Cl.Clotilde Soupert, Ghislaine de Feligonde, Setina

Proven fragrant bushes: Bordeaux, Clotilde Soupert, Maggie, Marie Pavie, Pretty Jessica, Summer Romance

The BEST proven rose for health and bloom would be Pink Pet. I find the fragrance a wafting clove, but not everyone finds it scented. ALWAYS in HUGE bloom. I now have three in the ground and will plant two more next year all in the same bed. The original grafted plant grows at least 5' for me with NO DIE-BACK!!! This is in a difficult position with little supplemental water that has done in many roses.

I'll post a separate entry for little or lightly fragranced winners in MY yard. : ))

Vaporvac, I definitely want to try Bordeaux, if I can find it, and I’m holding out hope that my new Summer Romance will do good. You also mentioned Setina, I’ve admired that one, but know nothing about it. ive been tempted to order it more than once, I just might.

My Setina is in its creep year, so I’m very hopeful for next years blooms. The few I’ve gotten so far are really lovely, a luminous silvery mid-pink, and sweetly fragrant. Oh and it’s been quite healthy, too. :-)

Perma I'm glad to hear that about your setina. I'm away and unfortunately am going to miss my huge full flush of it. It has given me some Bloom since I planted it in July but it's really been building up its strength so I'm disappointed about that. :-( Sarah, I hope your Summer Romance does well for you. I need to chop mine right back next spring as it's the Jolly Green Giant right now. I think next year after its first flush I'm going to cut it back and see what that does for it. I got Bordeaux from High Country roses. It is an excellent Rose. I'm thinking of moving Milano somewhere less visible and putting Bordeaux in its place as the color is much nicer with Darcy. Bordeaux is one that I could see myself with multiples. Hopefully it won't get too large!

Vaporvac thank you! I will take a look at those. It's always great to hear what works in others gardens that are close to your zone. :)

Another rose that I didn’t mention is Quietness. i think mine is in its fourth season, and had a difficult time getting started, but I think it has to do more with where I planted it, than the rose itself. We‘ve had lots of rain this year and this rose has really gotten with the program. I think it’s on its third flush since mid August, and is totally healthy, no blackspot whatsoever. I hope its new found health continues into 2020. A rose I could really love!

Souvenir de la Malmaison is another fragrant one that does good for me, usually stays blackspot free.

Thank you Sara Ann! I’ve been thinking about Quietness, My garden sits about 50 feet from my house so I tend to put in colorful roses. If I go with the pretty pastels they just look white from the house. I did put in 3 light colored roses: Lemon Spice, Shropshire Lad and Pope John Paul ll but they are hidden in sight of the house. I saw your other thread on Twilight Zone, mine is grafted and planted 3 years and it’s a slow starter for me, though this is the first year I actually fertilized it. :)