Warren’s taken the lead on RCP

foodonastump

Don’t know if this is being discussed elsewhere; I just noticed it. I’m kind of “eh” about it. At least she can think on her feet and hasn’t had a heart attack in the past couple weeks.



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miss lindsey (still misses Sophie)(8a)

I think this was evident by the recent spate of anti-Warren threads here the past couple of days.

Better than the pollsters, our fellow hot topic frequenters...

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jerzeegirl(9b)

All Trump has ramped up attacks on her. They follow the polls very closely.

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margaux

She's my choice of the top three contenders. If she goes down, Mayor Pete is next in line. I would like to see some of the moderate candidates get more attention through the fall and winter but that won't happen as long as Biden stays in.

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cattyles

Right, Miss Lindsey? Lordy, the hyperbolic indignation over recipes in a cookbook.

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jerzeegirl(9b)

And she is not planning to take big money.

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catkinZ8a

Right! What a hypocrite Warren is!


Elizabeth Warren took lobbyists’ money for Senate runs – now, running for president, she opposes the practice

PUBLISHED TUE, SEP 17 20192:07 PM EDTUPDATED TUE, SEP 17 20196:28 PM EDT

Brian Schwartz@SCHWARTZBCNBC




Federal Election Commission filings and lobbying disclosure reports show that Warren accepted the money during the 2012 and 2018 Senate election cycles. The sum from lobbyists represents just a tiny fraction of the money she raised during those Senate campaigns. A $10.4 million transfer from her Senate political committee helped fund the early stages of Warren’s presidential campaign.


Warren’s campaign did not dispute that she’s received past campaign contributions from lobbyists and pointed to her success of picking up grassroots support. A representative for the campaign also insinuated that other presidential candidates were attacking Warren for previously accepting lobbyists’ donations.


Still, Warren’s policy has triggered criticism from lobbyists who supported her in the past.

“I’m not happy with the overall plan. I think the whole thing is silly,” Warren donor Robert Crowe, of lobbying firm Nelson Mullins, said Tuesday. He declined to comment further.

In 2011, Crowe sent Warren two separate checks, according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. These donations were each for $2,500, the most a donor could give directly to a campaign. Crowe has lobbied for firms such as Google, which is one of the big tech companies that Warren has called to be broken up. He’s also represented Ameresco, a publicly traded renewable energy company.

The next year, Warren’s campaign accepted a $2,500 check from Gerald Cassidy, the founder of lobbying giant Cassidy & Associates. In 2010, Cassidy and his team agreed to a $25 million contract to lobby for convicted Bangladesh war criminal Mir Quasem Ali. At the time, Ali was being investigated by an International Crimes Tribunal and was sentenced to death in 2014 for crimes against humanity.

When Warren ran for reelection in 2017, she received $1,000 from Henry Menn, a lobbyist who later founded his own firm, Government Counsel LLC. Disclosure reports show his clients include Medtronic, a medical device company, and Lupin Pharmaceuticals, a drug manufacturer whose holding company is based in India.

During that campaign, Warren demanded a lifetime ban on former presidents and lawmakers from becoming lobbyists. “They can put their savings in conflict-free investments like mutual funds or they can pick a different line of work,” she said then.

Cassidy & Associates declined to comment, noting their founder retired from the firm. Menn could not be reached.

Warren also took part in fundraisers co-hosted by those with ties to the lobbying industry.

Bob Crowe, a lobbyist who previously worked for Wolf Block Public Strategies, was one of dozens of supporters at a fundraising event last year in Boston. Tickets ranged from $100 to $2,500, according to the invite.

Former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell hosted an event for Warren in Philadelphia in 2012, when he worked for Ballard Spahr. At that time, he was lobbying for KCI USA, a medical device manufacturing company. The Warren fundraiser charged up to $5,000 for attendees to gain entrance, the flyer shows.

Rendell recently published an op-ed in The Washington Post calling Warren a hypocrite for attacking big money donors after she accepted their help throughout her career in the Senate.

“Warren didn’t seem to have any trouble taking our money in 2018, but suddenly we were power brokers and influence peddlers in 2019,” Rendell wrote last week. “The year before, we were wonderful. I co-chaired one of the events for the senator and received a glowing, handwritten thank-you letter from her for my hard work.”

Rendell supports former Vice President Joe Biden in the race for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination. Warren and Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont are the next-closest candidates to Biden in the polls.


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/17/elizabeth-warren-accepted-lobbyist-money-when-running-for-senate.html

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cattyles

Lol. Shrug

You just don’t understand her.

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Iris GW
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carolb_w_fl_coastal_9b(zone 9/10)

Yet the amount of dark money behind GOP candidates is all okey dokey?


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chase_gw

Watch out Elizabeth ......you are next!!!!

I like her I really do. She is smart, witty, articulate and a great communicator. If she was in Canada I would be all in for her. Lord how I wish she was Canadian!!!

My only agenda in this election is to get Trump the hell out of office. It is not my business what choices Americans make on domestic policy issue, of course I have opinions, but it is not my place to tell Americans what to do. However, I have serious doubts she can beat Trump in the States Dems need if they are to take him down.

I suspect Trump and his supporters think the same thing which is why Biden has been the target and will continue to be so until Warren is assured the nomination.

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margaux

She needs to go on Fox News and talk about her policies. Seriously. They will not search her out and give her a listen.

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queenmargo

Warren is a radical extreme leftist.

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Iris GW

No, she's not.

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patriciae_gw(07)

And here I am embracing her radical extreme leftyness as one of her charms.

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patriciae_gw(07)

Additionally I have noted the over the top right wing attack on Warren as a sign that they see her as the next target of their smear campaigns. However here is the problem, like the story line of the latest slasher movie or Zombie flic you have to keep upping the ante. People are dead to the dull old Murder Inc scenario of the Clinton smear. You have to over come the sense of ennui that this already beat to death line gets you.

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cattyles

They’ll never top the “Great Recipe Debacle”.

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blfenton

I wonder which country trump will ask for some information on her and what the quid pro quo will be.

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margaux

It's perplexing that the RW claimed that if Bernie had won the nomination instead of Hillary, he'd be president today. Now we have Warren and Bernie running with almost identical platforms and they viciously attack Warren in a way you never see them attack Bernie. They even say they like Bernie. The only difference I can think of is that Trump has shown them how he wants them to treat Warren by his ugly, racist attacks on her. Trump doesn't do that to Bernie.

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Iris GW

What aspects of Socialism do you think any of these Democrats will implement?

Social Security?

Medicare?

Affordable healthcare?

Affordable college?

Clean air?

Clean water?

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Ann

"I think this was evident by the recent spate of anti-Warren threads here the past couple of days.

Better than the pollsters, our fellow hot topic frequenters..."

Come on Lindsey - this would completely blow the theory of some regular liberal HT participants that people were posting anti-Biden threads/comments because they were so darn afraid he'd beat Trump. Anti-Warren threads/comments would be completely contrary to that tactic, which some were so sure of!

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Ann

Lol, I just hadn't read far enough yet. Here it is!!!!!

"My only agenda in this election is to get Trump the hell out of office. It is not my business what choices Americans make on domestic policy issue, of course I have opinions, but it is not my place to tell Americans what to do. However, I have serious doubts she can beat Trump in the States Dems need if they are to take him down.

I suspect Trump and his supporters think the same thing which is why Biden has been the target and will continue to be so until Warren is assured the nomination."

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Ann

Regarding the OP, Warren has had an impressive and steady trajectory. She has run a good campaign.

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margaux

You are targeting a poster with ridicule because of her nationality, not because of her opinion. That violates the rules.

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patriciae_gw(07)

No, it is a simple focus on reality. If you live contiguous to the US you have a very vested interest in Americans not falling off the sanity cliff. We have failed our neighbors. We afflict the world around us and no one more than our close neighbors. We are the ELEPHANT in the sphere of influence and an elephant run amok can do a considerable amount of damage and not even notice and that is us these days. when we cast our votes for president we should consider neighbors but we don't. It would be nice if we simply considered us which would be sufficient to the case us but we don't.

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Ann

"My only agenda in this election is to get Trump the hell out of office."

Canada has an election in less than two weeks. Thankfully, I have no "agenda" in that election. It's interesting to watch, but "to get" Trudeau "the hell out of office" would be a pretty odd "agenda" for me, as an American.

That was quite the comment IMO!

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patriciae_gw(07)

Canada does not impact us on the same scale that we impact them. We impact the whole world.

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miss lindsey (still misses Sophie)(8a)

“Anti-Warren threads/comments would be completely contrary to that tactic, which some were so sure of!”

How so? The tactic seems to be viciously attacking whoever is the Democratic front runner. Most of whom stand a good chance of beating the Donald.

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Stan Areted

"Canada does not impact us on the same scale that we impact them. We impact the whole world."


And therein, I suspect, is the rub!

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patriciae_gw(07)

Why yes Stan. We have gone insane and the world suffers. A rub indeed. Global shingles with out the assistance of antivirals.

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jerzeegirl(9b)

People from other countries who own property in the US should be very concerned about US elections.

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althea_gw

"People from other countries who own property in the US should be very concerned about US elections."

Well, Saudi's own lots of property in the U.S.. Many people here would throw fits if Russian oligarchs who own U.S. property would declare an agenda in a U.S. election because they own property. Same for China.

I'm with Ann on this issue. The declared agenda is at best extremely disrespectful.

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linaria_gw(zone 7 (about))

watching from overseas


I think she is smart and hardworking enough to handle that position and bring real improvement to normal folks


apart from that- I fear that she is too far ahead or some musty murky majority too far behind

the USA -and the obscure dinosaure of the electorate college- is not really ready for a -hushed whisper- lady president...???


I woulb buy and open champagne in case she wins though

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margaux

miss lindsey (still misses Sophie)(8a)

“Anti-Warren threads/comments would be completely contrary to that tactic, which some were so sure of!”

How so? The tactic seems to be viciously attacking whoever is the Democratic front runner. Most of whom stand a good chance of beating the Donald.

Trumpism is the last gasp of the white Christian male hierarchy of the GOP as population studies show that their brand of politics is not sustainable without change. But the nature of conservatism is resistance to change. They have at most one presidency left if they don't broaden their base but I don't know who would want to sign on to what they represent. That's why they're fighting tooth and nail with the fear- and hate-based rhetoric. Winning in 2020 all rides on Democratic turnout.

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Iris GW

I'm ready for someone who takes policy seriously and truly does fight for the average American.

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elvis

And she is not planning to take big money.

Well there's a first, LOL. Right, Liz and every other candidate!

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chase_gw

As I have stated on many occasions Trump has a significant impact on Canada's economy and security both of which are a serous concern to me and my family. Additionally, I have property and reside in the US 25% of my year.

I, along with my fellow Canadians, have legitimate reasons to be greatly concerned over who sits in the Oval Office and claims to be " leader of the free world"

I stand by what I said. The successful removal of Trump from office is very important to millions of people, both in the States and in other countries, who are not citizens ...........and that includes me.

PS I don't think it's at all unusual that a resident of another country wants to see a corrupt and dangerous world leader removed from office.

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Iris GW

PS I don't think it's at all unusual that a resident of another country want to see a corrupt and dangerous world leader removed from office.

Indeed, the US has tried to influence elections around the world for just that reason.

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elvis

How so? The tactic seems to be viciously attacking whoever is the Democratic front runner.

Ah yes. The right really should take a cue from the prog leftists and take a kinder, gentler approach. Disingenuous much?

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You are targeting a poster with ridicule because of her nationality, not because of her opinion. That violates the rules.

Wrong on both counts.

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queenmargo

I stand by what I said. The successful removal of Trump from office is very important to milions of people who are not citizens who reside in the States and in other countries...........and that includes me.


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miss lindsey (still misses Sophie)(8a)

elvis

1 hour ago

How so? The tactic seems to be viciously attacking whoever is the Democratic front runner.

Ah yes. The right really should take a cue from the prog leftists and take a kinder, gentler approach. Disingenuous much?

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not disingenuous at all. I made no value judgement on the validity of attacks or who does/should make them, or why.

In my first post, I observed that "I think this was evident by the recent spate of anti-Warren threads here the past couple of days.”

I am truly interested in why Ann thinks that “...this would completely blow the theory of some regular liberal HT participants that people were posting anti-Biden threads/comments because they were so darn afraid he'd beat Trump.”

It doesn’t blow the theory.

It supports the theory.

Biden was the threat so every post was “ooooh look at Biden’s gaffes. ooooh look at Biden’s kid.”

Warren took the lead in the polls, and now Biden is dropped as a topic and it’s “ooooh, Warren isn’t Native enough. ooooh, Warren’s pregnancy.”

I am sincerely wondering why Ann believes the theory of “attack out of fear that Trump will be beaten” is blown out of the water just because the subject of attack is switched.

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Ann

"Come on Lindsey - this would completely blow the theory of some regular liberal HT participants that people were posting anti-Biden threads/comments because they were so darn afraid he'd beat Trump. Anti-Warren threads/comments would be completely contrary to that tactic, which some were so sure of! "

Okay Lindsey, let me give this a try. There are some liberals on HT and elsewhere who think Biden has a much better chance of beating Trump than Warren does. This liberal group tends to worry that Warren has views too far left to capture the votes of moderate Dem voters and Independents.

This liberal group thinks conservative anti-Biden threads and comments are intended to try to damage Biden's reputation/standing/appeal or what have you, because this group thinks conservatives are quite concerned about winning a Trump/Biden election. Therefore, these liberals might likely think conservatives would be very happy to see Warren gaining steam against Biden, and thus reluctant to attack her as they might have wanted to attack Biden.

Does this help with your wondering? My point is the "subject of attack" is quite pertinent to the meaning of my quoted comment above.

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Ann

Lindsey, after reading my comment just above and then rereading this Chase comment from further up, I think you'll have all you need to no longer be confused by my original comment.

"Watch out Elizabeth ......you are next!!!!

I like her I really do. She is smart, witty, articulate and a great communicator. If she was in Canada I would be all in for her. Lord how I wish she was Canadian!!!

My only agenda in this election is to get Trump the hell out of office. It is not my business what choices Americans make on domestic policy issue, of course I have opinions, but it is not my place to tell Americans what to do. However, I have serious doubts she can beat Trump in the States Dems need if they are to take him down.

I suspect Trump and his supporters think the same thing which is why Biden has been the target and will continue to be so until Warren is assured the nomination. "

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miss lindsey (still misses Sophie)(8a)

I think I do understand what you’re saying now Ann.

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miss lindsey (still misses Sophie)(8a)

Well, I was confused because it seems like my point (that Biden was dropped as a target right when Warren overtook him in the polls) seems to be what you’re saying (the some posters here think that conservatives target whoever is going to stand a chance to beat trump).

That’s pretty natural isn’t, to highlight the negatives about the opposite side’s candidate? It’s not unusual.

I was just surprised by how quickly it happened; a flurry of negative posts about Elizabeth Warren one day and the next, news that she overtook Biden in the polls.

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Wants to Grow

Stock analysts expect a Warren nomination will tank the stock market. Of course a stock market crash will play perfectly into the Democrats hands, whom are desperate to disrupt Trump's booming economy.

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margaux

How are Democrats trying to disrupt the economy? Specifics, please.

Have you looked at economic indicators? All is not rosy and we're months away from nominating someone. The economy is cooling NOW, while Trump is at the helm. Got an explanation for that?

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Iris GW

An equal number of Democrats are invested in the stock market as Conservatives so I'm not sure why Trump supporters continue to push the narrative that we want the stock market trashed. However, the health of the stock market is not something that plays into my decision on who to elect.

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Wants to Grow

Hi Margaux, Financials are likely to weaken on the risk of an increase in regulations from Warren's destabilizing economic policies.

And yes, Democrats and their propagandistic mouthpieces are trying to disrupt the economy. Evidenced by the inaccurate reporting, this past August, about how the inverted yield curve will cause a US recession.

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margaux

So you believe that some economists are Democratic mouthpieces and that reporting the inverted yield curve is their attempt to crash the economy? The report itself will disrupt the economy? I think you have that wrong. The yield curve is an indicator of what's already going on.

Seems like propaganda to shield Trump from responsibility when it's his trade policies crashing the economy.

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