Impeachment guide

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An impeachment inquiry is a process to determine whether the House of Representatives will vote on impeachment and on what grounds. If the inquiry leads to a vote on impeachment in which a majority of representatives vote yes, then the president is impeached, which means the matter is referred to the Senate for a trial. In the Senate, if 2/3rds of senators also vote yes, then president would be removed from office.

What’s happening now

Democrats and Republicans both generally now agree on the facts — that President Trump asked Ukraine and China to investigate an election rival — but disagree on whether that action warrants impeachment.

Six House committees — including the House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs, and Oversight committees — will submit what they consider evidence of impeachable acts to the Judiciary committee which may then draw up charges, called articles of impeachment.


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Eat Well

What charges are being considered for President Trump?

Foreign Assistance in the Election

Extortion or Quid Pro Quo

Emoluments with respect to the Trump hotels

Coverup – Mishandling Records with respect to misuse of classified server

Coverup – Withholding Whistleblower Report

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Eat Well

What is impeachable?

Although treason is defined in the Constitution and bribery is defined by a criminal statute, “high crimes and misdemeanors” was left open to interpretation. Based on historical statements by framers of the Constitution and subsequent practice by Congress, impeachment is not limited to criminal acts. Courts have also determined that Congress’s choice to impeach and remove an official is not subject to review by courts. Therefore, Congress may remove a president or official for any reason or no reason at all.

Instead of looking at what’s legal (since any basis for impeachment and removal is legal), one can also look at what’s normal. President Andrew Johnson was impeached in 1867 over his firing of his Secretary of War — the House of Representatives viewed the action as a violation of the Tenure of Office Act, while Johnson considered the Act unconstitutional. The Senate found Johnson not guilty. (Interestingly, the Tenure of Office Act was later repealed, and the Supreme Court took Johnson’s position in a similar case in the next century.) The House of Representatives impeached President Bill Clinton in 1998 for lying to a grand jury and obstruction of justice related to a matter unrelated to his official duties and for which there was no underlying crime. The Senate found Clinton not guilty. In 1974, the House Judiciary Committee recommended that President Richard Nixon be impeached for obstructing an investigation into criminal activities by his administration and re-election campaign, abuse of power, and not complying with subpoenas. Nixon resigned before the full House took any action.

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Ziemia(6a)

# Based on historical statements by framers of the Constitution and subsequent practice by Congress, impeachment is not limited to criminal acts.

# Courts have also determined that Congress’s choice to impeach and remove an official is not subject to review by courts.

# Therefore, Congress may remove a president or official for any reason or no reason at all.

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miss lindsey (still misses Sophie)(8a)

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cattyles

Good job. Blow through all the nonsense. This should be stay at the top of the forum.

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Wants to Grow

Currently, the so called impeachment inquiry is NOT being processed by the House of Representatives. It is being processed by only the House Democrats. This is what totalitarianism looks like.

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cattyles

Point at McConnell with that same finger, WTG. Pelosi is breaking no rules. Don’t worry, the Senate will coddle trump when the process gets there.

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cattyles

Also, the committees that need info to work on the investigation are requesting it. Are there no Republicans on those committees? While the Repubs were enjoying “winning” and gloating about Dems not being able to “get over losing”, we won the House. Elections have consequences as both parties are fond of saying.

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Ziemia(6a)

What's happened to all the clamoring from some TrumpFans for transparency in government?

Trump, show us those documents and let the witnesses talk - they will support your claims of innocence!

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whynottryit

There are Republicans on all of the committee's tasked for inquiry. You can Google the makeup of each committee for the names. It's not rocket science.

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cattyles

Thank you, whynot.

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linaria_gw(zone 7 (about))

bump

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Eat Well

How quickly they forget.

After the Senate and House voted unanimously on Sept. 24-25, 2019 on non-binding resolutions demanding access to the whistleblower complaint ... the White House made the complaint available to Congress, which then made it available to the public.

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Wants to Grow

Without a full house vote of ALL representatives, Republicans are excluded being able to participate in the inquiry. Republicans are denied the ability to produce evidence, questions, witnesses, or subpoenas. Democratic tyranny is on full display with the handcuffing of Republicans on the various committees.

Just because someone leads a committee, or is speaker of the House, they do not get to decide an action for the entire House of Representatives. Why should one narcissist in Burbank or San Francisco get to make decisions that affect the entire country?

Fortunately, they don't. So what we have here is a Democratic demonstration of a bully pulpit.

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miss lindsey (still misses Sophie)(8a)

Do Republicans care about the Constitution anymore?

Looking for answers from Republicans here.

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Eat Well

Once again, republicans and dems are on the committees investigating the Ukraine activities.

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Just because someone leads a committee, or is speaker of the House, they do not get to decide an action for the entire House of Representatives. Why should one narcissist in Burbank or San Francisco get to make decisions that affect the entire country?

And just for kicks, will you answer this question?

Why should one narcissist from Kentucky get to make decisions that affect the entire country?

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Ziemia(6a)

Ok, I am in need of info.

Will someone please find info on this claim? (Pref from a nonextremist source - and not an opinion piece.)

"Without a full house vote of ALL representatives, Republicans are excluded being able to participate in the inquiry."


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Delilah66

“So what we have here is a Democratic demonstration of a bully pulpit...Democratic tyranny is on full display with the handcuffing of Republicans on the various committees.”

All actions have been and are being taken within the Constitution. So what’s your point except that you don’t like it?

”Will someone please find info on this claim? (Pref from a nonextremist source - and not an opinion piece.)”

Ziemia, I know this has been answered before but I cannot retrieve it. You know the pubs always keep whining the same old songs even when others are diligently explaining why they are wrong. SOB.

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Ziemia(6a)

This is that I (this source and others}:

1. Congress can open an impeachment inquiry in the House Judiciary Committee to investigate whether impeachment is called for. The House can vote on formalizing the inquiry but is not constitutionally required to do so. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi chose not to hold a vote, though House Republicans called for one.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-is-impeachment-what-is-the-step-by-step-process-and-what-happens-next-if-president-trump-is-impeached-after-inquiry/

*** There is a difference in meaning between "can't" and "won't", isn't there?

This seems like a case of self-imposed exclusion.

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whynottryit

What Republicans seem to be concerned about is a nothing burger. An inquiry is simply an investigation. Gather evidence, see if there is enough to bring charges. No articles of impeachment have been agreed on, written, or brought forward. Panties are getting wadded over nothing.

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Wants to Grow

Hi Eat Well, Sure, I'll play. While Senate Majority Leader holds the power of deciding which bills are referred to committee, he does not have the power of excluding any Senators from voting.

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Ziemia(6a)

So, who is excluding GOP House members from participating in the inquiry?

ETA: sounds like they (House GOP) don't to work any harder than giving their vote.

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Eat Well

I can play word games too.

McConnell is sitting on dozens of bills passed by the House. That prevents the senate from being able to vote on them. He is making decisions that affect the entire country.


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cattyles

Wants to grow, did you check out any of those unbiased sites yet?

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lurker111

He is making decisions that affect the entire country.

Yeah, that's his job. Harry Reid let 400 bills rot on his desk.

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linaria_gw(zone 7 (about))

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whynottryit

John murdered James. But Kevin punched Scott so it doesn't matter.

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The perfect logic of the world according to Trump.

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vgkg Z-7 Va(Z-7)

Yeah, that's his job. Harry Reid let 400 bills rot on his desk.

Yeah, 399 of them were to repeal Obamacare

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Iris GW

How many bills are McConnell's desk now?

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lurker111

After the Senate and House voted unanimously on Sept. 24-25, 2019 on non-binding resolutions demanding access to the whistleblower complaint ... the White House made the complaint available to Congress, which then made it available to the public.

They never asked. All they had to do was ask. Trump even released the transcript and destroyed the so called WB, who lied on the forms. Busted again.

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Iris GW

Trump-nation version of what happened .... alternative facts.



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lurker111

How many bills are McConnell's desk now?

About half as many as Harry Reid had on his desk.Crat bills are garbage.

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Ziemia(6a)

The Transcript has not been released. We don't have even the redacted version.

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lurker111

lol

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HU9999

Transcript was not released.

WB didn't lie.

The incessant need to make stuff up to support their hero tells you everything you need to know.

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whynottryit

To clarify, there is no transcript. Anywhere. There is no verbatim, comma by comma, record written contemporaneously regarding the call. It is a memorandum. The media continues to conflate the two.

The president took the 30-minute call from the White House residence, while officials in the Situation Room listened in and worked to keep a record of the conversation, as is standard practice. The resulting memorandum was classified as “Secret’ and “ORCON, for “originator controlled,” to prevent its spread throughout the federal government or to American allies. It was declassified for release on Wednesday. https://time.com/5685945/trump-ukraine-biden-transcript-white-house-memo/


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