Late summer/fall perennials for hot, dry partial shade
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Will it be too late to plant perennials from seeds in Summer?
Comments (12)What did you mean by Burpee? That was the brand of seed you used, or you used the Burpee seed starting system? I started plants from seeds for the first time this year. I used the Burpee seed starting kit (tray of 72 soil pellets on a capillary mat, with a water reservoir beneath, no heat lamp, just set next to a window) and had great luck with zinnia (of course), shasta daisy Alaska, and hollyhock. At first, I thought the kit was a huge disappointment, as I got great germination rates but it was almost impossible to remove the seedlings without killing them. What ended up happening, though, was that after mid-late spring, I ran out of steam planting stuff outside, and I just left my seed tray outside, watering regularly. The seedlings continued to grow. Then, I went on vacation for 10 days and so I set the seed tray on the ground in a sunny area where it would get watered by our sprinklers which were on a timer. The plants grew like wildfire! That was early July. I finally got up the energy to plant the plants - the hollyhock seedlings are huge (I never thought they'd finally get big), and I repotted each shasta daisy in a 6" plastic pot leftover from other perennials I bought at a garden center. I now have about 16 plants in such pots - they're growing rapidly and I will plant them in the ground in early August. No, I won't get blooms this year, but I should get them this year. Delayed gratification. The zinnia, it goes without saying, are doing fantastically - if only they were perennials. I've also just planted purple coneflower seeds directly in the ground per the seed packet instructions, and hope they will come up, as it's very warm out and I am keeping them moist. I know that my other experience won't help you this season, but it's an approach you might want to take next year. When I transplanted seedlings into the ground in spring when the were very small, almost none lived. Now that they are much larger they're thriving after transplant. I wouldn't have thought seedlings would do well growing for 3.5 months in a 1" cell, but they did. I've got over $100 worth of shasta daisies for about $1. Worth it? In the end, yes. Of course $100 isn't all that much and it might have been easier to just buy the plants, but now that the plants are larger and look like they'll survive just fine, I'm satisfied with the effort I put in. I think I'll try it next year. It's an ongoing process. I'm not basing my entire garden on seeds, but since I'm in it for a fairly long haul, I figure I can help fill out my garden cheaply doing some stuff from seed....See Moreinvasive tall ground cover for dry partial shade/sun
Comments (10)Hi, Herbs often grow well in your backyard situation - believe it or not. Lavender for example. You can also grow some ornamental grasses like Pampass grass. It does grow into a HUGE clump of about 4-5 feet over time and is beautiful. The birds love the seeds in the fall. Amaranthus ponytails (love-lies-bleeding) also thrives in this condition - (email me and I can send you seeds which will grow quickly). This plant also gives abundant seeds which grow quickly. Coneflowers - such as purple coneflowers. (I may have some of these seeds left but not sure.) They grow about 3-4 feet tall and the monarch butterflies love these. I grow mine in the same conditions you described in a front garden HOT area and they thrive every year. Brown-eyed Susans also grow along with the purple coneflowers in the hot garden bed. There is also a product you can order from the US for this type of soil problem from ZEBA called Quench. (They ship from Vancouver.) This product looks like tiny granules, which when watered down absort about 400 times their weight. They are environmentally friendly. You don't need to use much. I just added this to my front hot garden and the rain this week is being absorbed. This product is used in golf courses throughout the US. I have provided a link for it below. (www.zeba.com) This product is better than other water crystals (which are derived from petroleum) as the Quench product is made from cornstarch! I hope this helps. Cheers, McPeg Here is a link that might be useful: Search site for...See MorePerennial flowering plants Zone 8 full and partial shade
Comments (9)Amending your soil is always a good idea, if you don't have ideal conditions to start. I think it gives plants a head start when they are first struggling to get established -- and of course, watering every week is a must for the first year! An excellent background shrub might be the red or pink flowering cestrum. I have to watch out for scale in the dry summer months but outside of that, they flower virtually year round in zone 9, and are vigorous multi-branching, 4-8' shrubs. You can prune them to thicken them up a bit, otherwise the branches lean outwards. Another excellent choice might be abutilons, if they are hardy where you are. I've seen conflicting information on the difference varieties so I don't know if they'll work or not. The two most beautiful variegated ones are 'Thompsonii' - very vigorous, and 'Savitzii', which is less so. Aphids can trouble them though. I like variegated plants because they really brighten up a shady spot. For dry shade, there is nothing better than Aucuba 'Gold Dust' -- cheap, easy to find, and gets a substantial 6-10' in height over time. Fabulous to add the leaves to a bouquet, too. Watch out for snails when young, they love to munch on this plant. I have good luck with India hawthorn (Rhaphiolepsis indica) 'Ballerina' in partial shade, it is a smaller, daintier version of the I. hawthorn that flowers profusely, and never seems bothered by insects or drought. I understand epimedrums are very good in shade and dry shade situations, too. I'm in a warmer zone than you so have other varieties instead. Note that hummers and butterflies absolutely adore the cestrums and abutilons so I never use systemics....See MoreAre these good perennials for dry partial shade?
Comments (22)I highly recommend that you plant geranium macrorrhizum. It is the PERFECT perennial for your situation, bar none. Here in Wisconsin they are NEARLY evergreen, meaning it will be the first area that looks nice, and it will be awesome up until snow cover. Most importantly, it takes away all of the problems with tree roots. I once had mature silver maples along my front yard. The grass grew just fine. I tore up the grass and created a long border along the front of my house. 90% of the plants were hostas. They grew happily. About 8 years later, I noticed my hostas were getting smaller, and the next year, smaller still. I dug them up to see what could be the matter....the hostas were entangled in masses of maple tree hairy roots. I had to tear out the entire garden....but luckily, I already knew about and had plenty of geranium macrorrhizum to cure the problem. It was lush and completely full 2 growing seasons later....and it looked great, in the first year, too. 1) Epimedium would probably work, but they are slow and very expensive. (Geranium macrorrhizum is VERY fast, yet not invasive.) 2.) I do not think pachysandra will work. In my experience, it might stay ALIVE in dry shade, but it will not like it and it won't flourish. For EASE...you can make each macrorrhizum plant that you purchase literally triple itself the following year. 80% of the plant lives above the soil, including a rootlet that's ready to go. So, once your plants have rooted. Simply put your hand down in and pull of a leaflet section...it will have everything on it that it needs to grow a new plant. Just scrape some soil on the surface and put the rootlet underground. The leaves may balk and wilt but give it some water and in about 2-3 weeks, you'll see a baby emerge...at that point, you can cut off any of the old foliage that wilted. 4) You can mow down/sheer/weed wack macrorrhizum after it blooms in early June. It'll put out a nice new set of leaves and be all the more tidy. 5) One site online that has a lot of choices is Lazy S Farm. (I am not affiliated.) I think the more fuchsia flowering color is prettier than the pale and white ones, but that's personal. I've heard they are faster growing, too. If you like the darker pink, go for Ingwersen's or Bevan's Variety. 6) google this (the words between the quotes): "a way to garden the toughest groundcovers I rely on" After you do, you'll find a wonderful blog about ground covers and see beautiful pics of the plant we are talking about...she has it lining both sides of the lawn. The reason she can afford to have so much, is because of what I explained in #3 above...it's the easiest plant in the world to spread where you want it, yet it does not go to seed and cause you a mess where you do not want it. Good luck! M...See MoreRelated Professionals
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