Netflix show with the Fab Five--'Qu**r Eye'

margaux

This wouldn't post with the name of the show 'Qu**r Eye' in the title so I modified it.

This season of Qu**r Eye is their best. They tackle a wide variety of social issues. The guys select people to "transform" in areas of the South and are in St. Louis this season. It's interesting to see how some who have never had any contact with gay men embrace the Fab Five. That human connection across, race, gender, culture, and sexual orientation gives me hope of a better America.

Last night we watched the episode with a Hispanic woman living in Kansas City. Her dream was to start a Hispanic Arts Foundation. She was born in the US and grew up in a middle-class white community and never felt fully accepted by either whites or Hispanics. As an adult she made an effort to learn about her Mexican culture and now she fully embraces it. She and her husband and children live in a middle-class white neighborhood and she had put her guard up because of an incident with a neighbor. Her husband built a stone wall on their property and her neighbor remarked something about how great it was that Mexicans were building their own wall. Remembering that remark had her in tears and made her feel that her neighbors didn't really welcome her. For one, they were low-rider enthusiasts and have several "bouncy" cars in their driveway when friends and family visited. They know they don't fit the mold. Another time she was in a store and a man hit her in the back with a broom and told her to go back to Mexico. I hope that people from her community and communities like hers who watch this episode see that there are real people who are harmed by the rhetoric.

She runs a Latino Arts Festival and with the support of the Fab Five, she went door to door to her neighbors to give them a flyer to invite them to the festival. To some she spoke of why she didn't know if her family was welcomed in the neighborhood and they all reassured her. She could not bring herself to go to the neighbor who made the wall remark though.

I hope that people in these conservative communities that are featured will watch the show and begin to see that there's a human being inside the facade, whether we're gay, transgender, Hispanic, or different in other ways, and that we all want to feel accepted for who we are. And that we all feel the same pain when we are not.

The woman with the hairspray the Season 4 trailer is the one we watched last night.

https://www.netflix.com/title/80160037

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Delilah66

margaux, it's countdown to the first negative comment on people who identify as Hispanic.

(Pssst, remind them the US government allows them to do so with every census.)

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leona_2008

I have seen them on a couple of late night shows recently. Love their personalities and their camaraderie. I can see how they could help open some closed-minds. Would love to watch their show but we recently gave up Netflix.

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elvis

I love those guys. But! William has got to get some better dresses, the ones he's using are butt ugly.

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queenmargo

Love their personalities and their camaraderie. I can see how they could help open some closed-minds.

I agree.

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margaux

They do open minds. In the trailer there's a man who says he has never talked to a gay guy before. They are all hugging each other by the end of every episode.

In my experience you can stereotype and make fun of people but once you get to know a person who is different than you, those stereotypes and jokes don't sit well anymore. That's why I often wonder if those who stereotype and joke (William's dress???) do know people who are different than them.

There is no William on the show.

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woodnymph2_gw

I caught this show years ago and absolutely loved it. Great camaraderie and I agree their humor can definitely open closed minds.

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margaux

Last season there was a black gay man who had grown up in the church and sung in the choir, and when he came out, he didn't feel welcomed there any more. His mother didn't accept his sexual identity either. His mother came to accept him and he returned to the church and sang with the choir.

I don't understand why we treat other humans so badly. Are we not able to feel others' pain? Does it somehow make us feel better about ourselves when we cause that pain?

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margaux

I think this is an entirely different focus than the old show, woodnymph. It's not so much about makeovers but about healing the spirit.

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queenmargo

I don't understand why we treat other humans so badly. Are we not able to feel others' pain? Does it somehow make us feel better about ourselves when we cause that pain?

Yet, you do not mind treating Trump supporters badly. Does it make you feel better when you do?

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queenmargo

In one breath you speak of healing the spirit and then the next breath you are divisive in your language to others who do not think like you.

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margaux

If others think it's okay to hurt people based on their race, sexuality, culture, etc. than they are the dividers.

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cattyles

We don’t treat trump supporters badly. You choose to personalize and defend what is said about trump.

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woodnymph2_gw

Margaux, glad to hear it. I've not seen the new show yet.

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margaux

Margie, you choose to be a Trump supporter. Someone who is black, Mexican, gay or any of the other human traits we discriminate against does not choose to be different.

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queenmargo

This is just another virtue signaling thread. There is some self admiration going on here. Talk of spirit healing and then point at others for division. Where does this self grandiose come from?

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queenmargo

Margie, you choose to be a Trump supporter. Someone who is black, Mexican, gay or any of the other human traits we discriminate against does not choose to be different.

Yes, I choose to be a Trump supporter. So do many blacks, Mexicans, and gay people. What is your point?

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margaux

I'm done making it about you. It's about the show. Moving on.....

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queenmargo

LOL- outwit- outlast- outplay

Funny how you give up when you can not answer lol lol

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Delilah66

Thank you Margaux.

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nannygoat18

I love how this show has evolved into revealing more humanity (rather than heroism) of the Fab Five, particularly when Tan shared his internalized homophobia with Wesley of "Disabled, but not really."

But I did not love how it portrayed disabled people. It's not a negative, it's an identity, just like being Caucasian or queer. If it makes you pause to hear "Caucasian, but not really" or "Queer, but not really," then you should have the same reaction to "Disabled, but not really."

It was a missed opportunity to show that disability is not the problem: it's how society treats people with disabilities. The scene with Tan could have been an opportunity to discuss disability pride, to consider that being disabled is not worse than being able-bodied, that often there's internalized shame about being disabled that makes a person believe that they are deficient simply because their bodies work differently.

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elvis

There is no William on the show.

Thanks, marg. I meant Jonathan. Don't know how I did that.

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cattyles

We don’t treat trump supporters badly.

Oh, my sides!

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cattyles

I always mean to watch this show and then forget. I’m going to put it on my list before I forget.

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margaux

Jonathan doesn't do the fashion advice. He does hair. Tan does fashion.

So here's exactly what I'm talking about, elvis. Jonathan is "out there" with his clothing selection. He is "exploring gender identities" from what I've read online. So you've picked that one thing out from the show and you've chosen to mock it. Why?

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queenmargo

I think elvis told you. The dresses in her opinion are butt ugly. Not mocking.

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Prim Rose

I don't have Netflix, but thanks for the review. I'll try to catch the series on DVD from the library.

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margaux

I choose to focus on the person inside the dress.

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queenmargo

Well margaux that is your choice but it is still a makeover show.

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queenmargo

I like David Bromsted, but I still make fun of his attire at times. Should I treat him any different than a straight person?

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Ziemia(6a)

Getting the name wrong. Using it to work in a butt joke.

Inspirational

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queenmargo

LOL Ziemia- I just got it lol lol ....really I never put it together until now lol My mind never went there ...

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Pidge_

I love Jonathan! Also Tan, Bobby, Antony (sp), and Karamo. They make my heart sing with their incredible generosity and kindness. I don't think Jonathan's clothes are the least bit ugly. He's having fun with them and I am always eager to see what he'll be getting into next. I have lots of gay friends but none of them are as flamboyant as Jonathan.


The current iteration of the show is so much better than the first. As margaux said above, this series is about healing the spirit rather than changing the basic person being helped. The team finds the core of the person and brings it into the open. People are not made to feel bad about things they've done that haven't gone well, but to feel good about that of which they are capable.

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Prim Rose

What season should I look for? 2018?

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miss lindsey (stillmissesSophie,chase,maifleur,others(8a)

This show is one of our favourites! “Can’t fix ugly” broke my heart. My daughter has watched the firefighter episode probably 6 times lol.

I first watched an episode expecting it to be potato chips. Instead it’s poutine: still kind of “junk food” but also really nourishing :-D

It’s a do-not-miss binge watch in our house.

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miss lindsey (stillmissesSophie,chase,maifleur,others(8a)

Prom Rose, start at season 1 episode 1 if you can. You’ll want to watch them all anyway!

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Joaniepoanie

I have not watched this new version, but I loved the old cast. What day/time is it on?

And just gotta say.....the right needs to stop the victimhood. As far as “treating badly” the right gives as good as they get here, if not more so.

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sushipup1

It's on Netflix, any time and any day.

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margaux

Yes, start with the first season. That was a good one too. There will be some stories that aren't as touching as others. The guys also reveal some of their past struggles in different shows too.

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Pidge_

The guys also reveal some of their past struggles in different shows too.

I recall the first ep and what Bobby revealed about his past. I have been sympathetic to him ever since. He doesn't always get as much screen time as the others, but he creates new worlds every week.

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Joaniepoanie

Thanks Sushipup.

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Tilly Teabag

Yes, we need to get to know people as individuals. Fear is the enemy there.

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elvis

margaux

Jonathan doesn't do the fashion advice. He does hair. Tan does fashion.

So here's exactly what I'm talking about, elvis. Jonathan is "out there" with his clothing selection. He is "exploring gender identities" from what I've read online. So you've picked that one thing out from the show and you've chosen to mock it. Why?

Not at all, marg. Jonathan's choice to wear dresses is just plain fun. My comment is that his dress choices are butt ugly. Either he's not getting advice, or he's ignoring it. That's not "mocking", that outright criticism of his butt ugly dress choices. My opinion. Shrug.

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margaux

Okay. Not quite where I expected the thread to go as I was addressing the social issues that they tackle in my OP.

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Prim Rose

Someone who has fashion sense and .... a bit of culture - doesn't say "butt ugly" as many times as they can get it into a post.

That also is not a valid criticism. It is one, shrug worthy, opinion.


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queenmargo

Well lah di dah!

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