Hi Diane, Weeds went crazy here, too, after all that rain we had recently.

Unfortunately, most of my Austins are gone now that I don’t spray them. Teasing Georgia is very good for me, though. Olivia is new for me this year, but seems promising.

The newer disease resistant Kordes roses seem to take a year or two to settle in and become good bloomers, but once they do, most are remarkably clean and prolific for me…but most turn into giant, thorny beasts…so placement can be an issue. Only my second year with Bliss, but it seems like it will be a great, reasonable sized one.

Buck roses have been hit and miss for me. Some are very disease resistant, but not great rebloomers in our heat. Some are great bloomers, but not very bs resistant. Aunt Honey and Griff’s Red have been very good on rebloom and health. Prairie Breeze and Prairie Sunrise are very healthy, but rebloom isn’t as great as I had hoped. Carefree Beauty is new for me this year, but doing well. I’m sure there are others, but none are coming to mind at the moment.

The Brindabella Roses have been awesome so far. I have Purple Prince, Glow and Touch of Pink…all new this year…and all wonderful so far!

Other roses that do well no spray for me are La Rose de Molinard, Delightful Phyllis, Our Anniversary, Star of the Republic, Iridescent Pink, Triple Delight. Hmm, I know there are more, so will update when I think of them.

Also, the antiques are a mixed bag. In general, Bourbons and Hybrid Perpetuals are very disease prone here. Most Chinas do well. Teas…some good, some not so good.

Thank you very much Pat. I was actually hoping you would see my post and give me some advice and ideas. I know you are gardening under the same heavy BS pressure I have and have successfully created a beautiful no spray garden. From the ones you mentioned I added Olivia this year and she is indeed very healthy so far. I do love the Austin look and feel so disappointed to see the plants looking so terrible already. Queen of Sweden and Lady of S are the other two I am growing successfully without spray. Will start researching all the roses in your post and hopefully in the future I will end up with a healthier garden. Thank you very much.

Anyone else growing any Austin or like rose with good rebloom and no BS in a humid place please share. I have stopped spraying for bugs hoping to build my beneficials and would love to get healthier roses in the future.

Hi dianela !! A couple that stand out in my memory as very healthy were

fire opal - so healthy it was ridiculous

flamenco rosita

bathsheba

sweet frances

Renae

earth angel very healthy but slow repeat

I forgot about Lady of S...she is doing well for me, too. Molineux does well here. Pat Austin is doing okay, as is Christopher Marlowe...they do bs some, but not as bad as most Austins. I still have Munstead Wood, Scepter'd Isle, Jubiliee Celebration and Lady Emma H, but they are blackspotty things and will eventually be replaced. I've read good things about Desdemona, but haven't tried it yet. I'm sure I'll think of more.

I forgot about flamenco Rosita. Lilyfinch is right...It does great here! Very wide, but not too tall. Very bs resistant. Blooms its head off even in the part shade place I have it.

(excuse DH's junk he has behind it...lol)

Flamenco Rosita playing with Cornelia:

Thought of two more...lol. Princess Charlene de Monaco is very good. Borderer is new this year and in a big pot for now, but so far, so good.

PCdM

Borderer

If I could only grow one rose it would definitely be Olivia

Geeze, it is always in bloom and so healthy.

I don't spray either

Also love Young Lycidis, healthy and super fast repeat.

I have removed most of my Kordes because they get huge repeat is slow.

I still have Beverly and Earth Angel.

Young Lycidis

I also have great success with Lady Shallot, super healthy

Ohhhh wow I am getting some beautiful roses here. I can feel my spirits lifting. Lily thank you very much for adding your roses. I have been wanting your Rosita for a long time and she is definitely going to join my garden. Also any Austin that was black spot resistant in your TN garden should hopefully do well in mine. So I’ll take notes.

Ohhh Pat those are beautiful roses. Unfortunately I just added 3 lady Emma’s and I guess they will be a mess as well. I have Darcey Bussell here and it black spots but it keeps blooming so I am keeping her. That princess Charlene is gorgeous and looks just like an Austin.

Kristine I think we cross posted before I left work. I can’t say enough good things about Olivia’s health. My only complaint is she is very light colored so the thrips hit her hard. It is great to see young lucidas not getting BS in your garden. I remember not getting because Austin health rating was maybe average? Of course I got Tranquility and others rated excellent that are more naked than Rangiku at this point.

Dianela, I've never had weeds like this year. It must be everywhere. It's almost August and I'm still trying to get the garden presentable.

I don't know if my BS observations will be helpful since I'm in a very dry climate with almost no BS ever, but it has been weirdly humid this year, and I am holding my breath. My best bloomers are Leo di Vinci, Plum Perfect, Flamenco Rosita, Versigny, Quietness, Ballerina, Royal Jubilee, Crown Princess Margarita, Munstead Wood and to my great surprise, Eden has been blooming almost non stop for the first time in 4 years. I have 5 (by accident) and 2 of them are pumping out the blooms. None of these have BS.

Thought of another one :). White Gold. Beautiful blooms, beautiful fragrance, very disease resistant. Looks rather Austin-ish. I don't think I have any pics of it on my phone, but I'll post some when I'm back on the computer tomorrow

Fire Opal is amazingly healthy and a workhorse of a bloomer. It could be a dupe for Belle Story an older Austin.

Houzz has goofed our posts up, and they are in reverse order in most, if not all threads. Just start at the bottom of the thread and work your way up to understand what the heck if going on. Sorry to go OT. Diane

Wow this site is super crazy Diane. I posted in vapors thread yesterday and some random code showed up instead of my post.

Pat these roses you are posting are glorious. I can’t believe how many beautiful disease resistant roses I have overlooked. Please keep sharing this is a gem of a post for those of us who suffer with heavy blackspot pressure.

Flowers the weeds are insane. The weather is also so humid and hot that every time I go and weed I am exhausted within an hour so my progress is minimal.
Thank you for the recommendations, hopefully we will end up getting those crazy weeds under control.

Lilyfinch and Pat any of you have any experience with Eden's blackspot resistance? Flowers mention hers is healthy and I would love to hear from those with lots of blackspot.

Diane, I have not grown Eden, so can't help you on that one. The ones from flowers list I do grow are Plum Perfect, Flamenco Rosita, Versigny, Quietness and Munstead Wood. Surprisingly, Plum Perfect is perfectly awful this year. Its third year here, and I just don't remember it having blackspot issues previously...but it looks terrible this year...every leaf is either yellow and black spotted or gone. I love Quietness...such a pretty, pretty rose...but, it isn't the best rebloomer in our heat and it does spot more than I'd like for it to. Versigny is a favorite even though it does blackspot some here. I have a bunch of companion plants surrounding it to camouflage when it's foliage challenged.

Versigny last weekend with Rawhide dahlia:

I’m not going to be much help here since I do spray, but I’m guessing Eden is quite resistant, almost never a bad leaf, plus she has great strength and vigor. Alas, repeat bloom is not good, but spring flush is traffic stopping.

Pat,

I just love your pics of Delightful Phyllis, wonderful to see her growing so amazing no spray. I always guessed she was super clean, mine is coming along nicely, too. I got her from Chamblees clearance last year, I’m afraid she’s out of commerce completely now, that’s a shame.

Your garden is inspiring, Pat. I do not know doodly squat about blackspot other than what it looks like. My rose babies are probably no real test for blackspot... I think, but most are clean.

Summer Romance

Blue Girl

Brindabella Purple Prince

Cinderella Fairy Tale

Plum Perfect

Darcey Bussell

Princess Anne

Grande Dame

Black Magic

Blossomtime

Ebb Tide

SdlM Rouge has a bad case of powdery mildew... I think... the leaves look more like lambs ears than rose leaves...

Gorgeous roses, Kristine.

Eden gets some BS, but overall pretty disease resistant for me. Never completely defoliated

My Florentina (red climber from Kordes) sailed through this record rainy season in zone 6b New York! It was so outstanding that I'm considering replacing every other rose with it.

Road Dahl is superb in terms of flower production and black spot resistance.

Many of the roses mentioned above are too new in my garden to comment on. But I get blackspot here and have a couple Kordes roses in shade until about noon & they do not bs. One is Poseidon & the other is Rosanna. They have been here a few years, with no disease issues. They are however trying to recover from winter/vole damage this year. Which is unfortunate; since they are both really good roses here.

Eden is very clean in my garden, as Ben said repeat in general is varying.

Cinderella FT was planted last year and very clean foliage so far. This spring I planted more Kordes in the morning shade spots to see how they do. So far all clean. They are Florentina, Quicksilver, Kiss me Kate, Pretty Lady, Pomponella & Fiji. And they've all had some blooms too.

The healthiest foliage for my Austin's is Strawberry Hill. The foliage of this one is quite glossy. Very clean here. Teasing Georgia, Crocus Rose, Benjamin Britten, Pat Austin, Charles Darwin also come to mind for not having any bs issues.

Thank you very much for all the comments. I will from now on pull from this thread when ordering new roses.
Pat I realized I never mentioned I have Desdémona and indeed it is very healthy here so that’s a good Austin for BS.

I had typed a more detailed post and it disappeared. I am just typing a quick one now in hopes it will post.

Anyone has experience with the ancient mariner, janes Galway and spirit of freedom in BS land??? Those are three Austin’s I have been dying to try.

I realized I never said which are my best bs resistant roses and I think I should add them here for others also.

Earth angel- clean slow repeat
bordeaux- clean and constant repeat
Olivia- clean and constant repeat
Desdemona- almost all clean and fast repeat
Lady of shallot- clean and fast repeat
The Ascot rose- clean and very young no blooming info yet
Mel’s heritage- clean and good repeat but not profuse ( still very young)
Kendyl Marie - clean and good repeat on first year
Dark desire - clean and decent repeat but no where close to everblooming
Pomponella- clean and good bloomer but blooms brown stained all the time
Darlow’s enigma - clean and good repeat
Awakening - almost all clean and still very young
Blossom time- almost clean and good repeat for a young climber
Madame Anisette- all clean and terrible repeat

queen if Sweden- almost clean and good repeat not as profuse as others

here are pictures of my best ones right now

Spirit of Freedom is awesome in FL. Young Lycidas gets a lot of black spot.

Teasing GA, Pat Austin, Lilian Austin, Olivia, Distant Drums, Tess (TotdU), Quick Silver, Lady of Shalott, Fire Opal, PCdM, Blossom Time, Miracle On the Hudson are all very bs resistant. I'm sure I can think of a few more. Many OGRs are good here as well.

~Sjn

Here is my best bunch right now when the others are covered in black spot.

Roald Dahl

Bordeux

Ascot

Kendyl Marie ( you can see a few yellow leaves on the bottom)

Queen of Sweden

Christopher Marlowe

Olivia

dark desire

Earth angel

I keep leaving Desdémona out. She is a great Austin. Mine are being smothered by dark desire and will need to be relocated.

Sultry thank you I am dying to add spirit of freedom to my garden

Dianela, Good to know Desdomona, Ronald Dahl, QOS, & Ascot all do well in your climate! They are all on my list! I forgot, Earth Angel is great here too. I also want a few more grafted SoFs! SoF will be smashing in your romantic garden!

Pat your garden is truly incredible without spraying. You have several roses that I didn’t know existed and are just perfection in every way. I like how your companion plants blend in as well, I will be copying you in the future.

Thank you sultry. I found a place in Mississippi that is supposed to have spirit of freedom grafted. I’ll post the info as soon I can remember the name. They were supposed to have saved me one for October but I think I should get more now that I know it is healthy.

This is a great list, especially when so many keep reappearing.I will keep my list confined to those in the ground unless they are doing exceptionally well in a pot, as for me this predicts how they'll do once planted. Pink Pet, The Tooth Fairy, Maggie, Fire Opal, Pink and Red Drift, Gold Blush, Caroline Hunt, Bordeaux Citiscape, Star of the Republic, Ascot. I have many newly planted so I don't feel comfortable commenting on them.

K&M carries Spirit of Freedom grafted onto Fort. According to D.A. TX, it has not been discontinued...

The Wedgewood rose does well here too! Mine is grafted on DH.

These had a little thrip damage but one can see the petal packed blooms and coloring. Reminds me of pink frosting.

Dianela, it looks to me like you have lots of beauty going on your garden despite heat and black spot. Your Ascot bloom is gorgeous, and you should get many more of those as you grow him longer. I have two, and neither like to be pruned. The one that is not pruned much blooms constantly without break, but my other Ascot that has been pruned regularly because of space restrictions pouts all season--it grow out oddly and doesn't rebloom the way the larger one does (they are both big). I'm not happy about this. I agree that Olivia is great in heat and fast on the rebloom. She needs more color in this desert where she fades out. Your Desdemona is absolutely exquisite, and Earth Angel is astounding with its bloom production. Does it always bloom like that--amazing? I don't get black spot here, so I can't offer any suggestions on that topic. Horrible thrips here, though, which affect The Prince the worst, and Augusta Luise.

Sultra, yes, your Wedgwood blooms look like the best pink divinity frosting ever. Very scrumptious--and now I am hungry. Diane

What a difference a zone makes! I can't imagine DarkDesire smothering anything. : ((

Sultry thank you for adding the wedge wood rose. I have always wondered about it. Those blooms look wonderful to me and if the plant is healthy in my black spot area I couldn’t ask more anything better.

Diane thank you. It is good to have a few more resistant roses in the garden at this time a year. Thank you for letting me know about the Ascot rose. I planted mine on the limits of my property where I think I could let them get large now that I know it doesn’t like to be pruned. I do hate thrips more than any other garden pest I battle and I wish we could get rid of them forever.

Part of my post disappeared :(.
Diane earth angel is a slow re bloomer and not super productive. In that image I have 3 planted together. I am hopping in the future it will improve. Desdémona on the other had does produce hundreds of blooms.

Ohhh vapor I wish I could send you one of my huge monsters. I cut down desire down to the ground this winter and is back to 7 feet tall canes. I meant for Desdemona to cascade over dark desire’s red blooms with lichfield angel on front. Now I have dark desire smothering everything on its path and can’t even see Desdémona unless I circle to the back of the bed. I have trouble making things happen how I imagine it.

How about the Earthkind roses? Wonder if any of them would do well in your area?

https://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/earthkindroses/cultivars/

First crush is very clean so is TG, but repeat not good for me due to shade.

New rose Sweet Mademoiselle is very clean and good repeat.

My very healthy, floriferous, and very fragrant are Princess Charlene of the Monaco, Young Lycida, Desdemona, The Ancient Mariner, The Poet’s Wife, Beverly, Olivia, Moonlight Romantica, At Last, Julia Child, Perle d’Or, Darlow’s Enigma, Lydia, Renae, Autumn Sunset and Life of the Party.

The not so fragrant ones are Poseidon, Cream Veranda, Quietness, Violet’s Pride, Thomas Affleck, Celestial Night, Rosie The Riveters, Distant Drum.

Wow! The Wedgewood rose looks good enough to eat!

I thought that I was just not keeping up with the weeds

Apparently it is a bad year for weed's. I haven't been able to get a handle on them all season. Oh well

I planted 4 Desdamona and even though they are young they have put on a of growth.

Bolero is one of the cleanest roses I grow and so bloomy

Out of Rosenheim has never had a problem of any sort

I'm in 7b in Delaware and my Julia Child is healthy - but has no scent that I can discern. I have a little baby Soul Sister that I just planted this year (it was not bare root, but rather in a pot) that is also very healthy. I am very much a beginner so I still have a lot to learn.

I want to thank again everyone who has taken the time to add their most blackspot resistant roses to this thread. I have a lot of work ahead of me but when I start my new garden only the healthiest one from this thread will be given a chance. Thank you very much for sharing your experiences. These threads could make the difference when creating a new garden and giving it the absolute best chance of succeeding. Thank you!

I just arrived home and I am taking Friday off. Of course I ran outside to check on the roses. I have to say Olivia is amazing.

Here is a single stem on a first year bare root. She does not have the super globular form i love the most but she is graceful and excellent in the garden.

Here Is one of my few blooms of AL. She is excellent and blooms well, unfortunately the Japanese beetles have decided to target her.