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Help with Guest & Master bathroom layout / design

Seak and Sparrow
3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

Hi helpful, design-savvy ones!


We are going to change the footprint of our house a bit and are looking into creating back to back guest and master bathrooms. I've attached the proposed plans (dimensions are off on the tubs) with some inspiration photos.


Here is an overview of the plan.

  • Adjacent to the smaller guest bath is a Laundry closet for a stackable washer dryer unit on one side and a hallway on the parallel side. There will be transom windows on the hallway wall and on the wall bordering the master bath to allow light in.
  • In the guest bath we will create a cubby of shelves for towels and whatnot behind the shower/bath stall (see inspiration photo).
  • In the Master bath, we were thinking of putting in a wet room shower stall that will have a clawfoot freestanding tub.
  • The toilet will be located in a niche to the right of the door.

Here are my questions:

  • Do you see any potential issues with this plan? And design tips that you think will make this concept work better.
  • What would you do above or on the walls next to the toilet?
  • Do you think we can get away without a window in the shower stall (there will be a window to the outside on the wall opposite the vanity which is adjacent to the walkway to the front door)?
  • What do you think of frosted windows on bathroom doors to allow even more light in? Big no no?

Thanks in advance for any advice!




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Comments (26)

  • My House
    3 years ago

    Are there any specific visitors you are expecting, like aging parents or in-laws? If so, then they may have diffculty navigating in & out of a tub or tub/shower combo. Aging is accompanied by decreased strength and mobility and certain medications can cause dizziness. A weekend visit becomes a 3 month stay as the "guest" heals post slip-fall. Shower with a built- in seat/bench -something to consider

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    Seak and Sparrow
    Original Author
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Great points. The true shower tub combo is only in the guest bath because we have kids. The master bath will have the seamless shower room (curbless and a soaking tub towards the back of it). I was thinking they could use our bath if it really becomes an issue? And to be honest all our parents live nearby us in their own houses...but you never know what the future could bring. Thank you for these things to think about.

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  • My House
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Sorry- I read the post to mean this bathroom was for guests only, like an enlarged powder room, not the family bath for children & guests on occasion.

  • kariyava
    3 years ago

    You will have a huge luxurious shower and a tiny vanity in your master. That is not a trade off I would choose, because I almost never take a bath and use/need my vanity space every day! If you take out the freestanding tub in the wet room, you will still have a huge shower, with room for a two sink vanity with a lot more counter and storage space.

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    Seak and Sparrow
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Thank you Kari. I do like having the idea of a tub (and I don't want a combo) but maybe I will end up hating this later. I will have a vanity table in my master bedroom, but I hear you. Thank you for your thoughts. Much to ponder!

  • User
    3 years ago

    I would a shower only in guest, not a combo


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    Seak and Sparrow
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Thanks I decor54. Unfortunately we have kids so we need a bathtub in the guest bathroom.

  • Robbin Capers
    3 years ago

    I agree with a slightly larger vanity (but don't personally like the two sink thing and would never give up a tub). Could you put the tub in the corner at an angle and use that wall space more efficiently so the vanity would have more room?

  • User
    3 years ago

    csparkles, your so right about needing a tub, I read guest bath as in bathroom in a guest room only.

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    myricarchitect
    3 years ago

    Questions -is the space already framed?

    What is in the space outside the guest bathroom/where is the guest bedroom door?

    What is the space to the right of the master bath?

    Do the master tub and shower need to be enclosed behind glass together?

    Does the laundry have to be off the hall?

    Thanks!



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    Seak and Sparrow
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Mrs Pete! You little devil! Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to put all of these designs and ideas together! Wow I had never thought of laying the bathroom out in these ways. I love the idea of a bump out but that is the walkway to the front door, which is strangely set back towards the back of the house. The second idea of laying the two bathrooms on top of each between the hallway and the outside of the house is very unique. We wouldn't want to share a shower with the guest bathroom though. Basically we have the opportunity to change walls and orient how we want, but I don't know where else to put the washer dryer. We have a very small house and I've included the full floor plan of the house and a picture of the front of the house. In the picture, our front walk way borders the master bedroom and the proposed master bath.


    Top left room is the office, then the kids room, and the master bath. Under the office is the kitchen, hallway and then the bathrooms. Under the bathroom is the living room.


    Any other ideas you may have, feel free to throw them my way. The laundry is an issue of course, we have a detached garage but we have to go down steps to get to them. THANK YOU!!!!!!

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    myricarchitect
    3 years ago

    Thank you for posting the plan, it helps a lot. I think a stacked W/D is OK since the house is small and you prefer doing laundry inside. At least with a deep closet there is some staging area to hold a couple baskets of laundry & still shut the door.


    I did a version of your plan where the master bath is 7‘-6” x 11’-0” and the Guest Bath is 5’x8’.


    I‘m not able to put the master tub and a shower in the same glass enclosed space, but if you are willing to do an open shower they will work together.


    Like this example except I would use a solid partition wall instead of glass and locate the showerhead on that.




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    Seak and Sparrow
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Oh wow that is another great idea. Did you say you made a plan (I don't see one here, but obviously I wouldn't expect anyone to make a plan for me----i'm so grateful for the suggestion!!!!!!)


  • HKO HKO
    3 years ago

    Mostly following, but also laughing at the omission of a comma in your statement that “unfortunately (you) have kids....”. LOL. ;)

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    Seak and Sparrow
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Omg blushing! Love my children! I’m horrible with typing! Hahahahaha

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    myricarchitect
    3 years ago


    Guest bath 5’x8’, m.bath 7’-6”x 11’, overlapping tub & shower area

    It’s killing me being away from home with only a ball point pen and legal pad, but here’s the idea


    Abother example of the overlapping tub & shower areas


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    Seak and Sparrow
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Um, you are better with pen and paper then I am with an online planning program. This is interesting. Also, question: I noticed you had the door in the master bath swing into the room on the right... is that to hide the toilet? I hadn't thought of that.

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    myricarchitect
    3 years ago

    It’s an extra step for the framer to “drop” the subfloor so that the tile floor is continuous and slopes correctly to a drain at the showering space, but not that difficult. We have one in progress now!


    M.Bath door can swing in either way, I prefer “hiding” the toilet, and there are stop-hinges so the door doesn’t swing open too far. I would leave a foot or so to the right of that door for a narrow storage piece or towel storage.

    Re: storage, I would do large cabinets over the toilets to hold stuff, in both baths and have medicine cabinets for more storage.


    You can finish the recessed space between studs for storage or alcoves, even in the laundry area to hold things - in a small house with tight storage every bit counts.






  • Mrs Pete
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Mrs Pete! You little devil!

    I've been called worse, but not since school ended two weeks ago. Seriously, I was glad to be helpful.

    After looking at the full-house layout, I have two pieces of advice:

    - Beware over-improving the bathroom. This is a small house with small bedrooms. It feels like a house in which a simple 3-piece bath would be appropriate in the master. Not what you want to hear, but I think it's solid financial advice.

    - Second, bummer, but I don't see any better options for the laundry, and everything I drew was predicated on moving the laundry elsewhere /having that bit more space.

    This pix below is a nice idea ... but do you have the space for it? Someone help me here ... a curb-less shower must slope 1/2" per foot /requires 4' of space. At least it's sloping away from the tub.

    This type of shower is expensive for a new build ... extremely expensive as an addition to an existing house ... and essentially impossible if you have a slab foundation (do you know what type of foundation you have?).

    The bathroom, as it exists now, is 6'4" across ... so 4' for the slope leaves 28" for the tub and the entrance to the shower. You could use a shorter piece of shower glass, but that would leave you with trip hazzard in the spot where the floor transitions.

    You could do this WITH A CURB. It would eliminate the slope problems, and without the clawfoot tub, you're eliminating the problems of cleaning around the tub.


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    Designer Drains
    3 years ago

    Shower only, no need for a combo.

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    myricarchitect
    3 years ago

    Hi Mrs Pete, the overlapping tub shower area is possible using a narrow tub (32”) there is no minimum size for a curbless shower (other than 30” min per code) but would try for 3’-6” to 4’ wide here so that csparkles has room for a 48” vanity. I agree I would not use a freestanding tub but a blockish one to make the curbless floor easier to build and clean. The slope of the floor to drain is 1/4”= 1‘-0” so the subfloor drops just an inch. To drop the subfloor an inch they can remove the 3/4” plywood subfloor and trim 1/4“ off the topside of the existing joists, not a massive project IF the OP has a wood framed floor IDK. There is a name-brand tile underlayment “pan” with correct slope built in that is 1” thick total, makes curbless much easier. With a solid or skirted 32” wide tub, the curbless slope-y part of the shower floor is @ 3’-10” x 4’-10”


    Tub with no spaces behind for water/dirt. Can also do a tight tile skirt to match the bathroom.



    you can put a curb on the shower like someone did here if needed, but I would really try to do curbless for aesthetics.

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    myricarchitect
    3 years ago

    What happens a lot that causes a lot of work with trying to drop a floor in an older home for a curbless shower, once the joists are exposed existing problems become apparent that were hidden: either the joists are undersized, not bearing properly, or look like Swiss cheese from old pipes and ductwork and careless notches. The floor gets reframed and everyone is grateful that they didn’t do a $$$ new tile bathroom on lousy joists that are more likely to have deflection and cause tile cracking and waterproofing problems.


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    Seak and Sparrow
    Original Author
    3 years ago








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    Seak and Sparrow
    Original Author
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Wow I wrote this really long message to everyone and it seems to somehow gone missing. Basically I give my thanks to all you have posted (and posted with so much detail and information. I'm seriously filling up my electronic notepad with all of your ideas. I also thought of new one on my own. What do you think? Of all the layouts suggested by myself or another, what is everyone's favorite?

    THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. I feel blessed that so many of you were generous of your time, spirit, and expertise.

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    Seak and Sparrow
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Ok I need a little help. My sister in law had a great idea to put the washer and dryer in the office in a cabinet with a workspace counter over. My husband hates it because he says it makes the office unusable as 3rd bedroom which will hurt resale value. What do you guys think?