Thank you vapor. Bordeaux seems to be a very nice little rose so far. I am hopping it will stay on the smaller side here. The blooms are charming and the color can be similar to DD. It also seems very healthy ( I have not been spraying it)

Deborah I Loveee your Rosarium Uetersen. It seems to be blooming very well for such a new plant. Please keep us updated on rebloom this year, my only problem with Kordes so far has been slow rebloom.

thank you Sara Fiji has been slower than the others to get going but otherwise is very nice. It was slow to rebloom last year so I am keeping an eye on it this year. I don’t want roses in my garden that don’t rebloom well.

Pat your dark desire is freaking amazing. I love monster roses. At this point I am laughing aloud at my level of stupidity. I am in trouble with the placement as I planted 3 in a small area in front of the house. It almost smothered Desdémona on its first year so I cut them down this winter. I might have to get brave enough to move at least 2 but those thorns are killer. Maybe at some point I will learn to plan better and I could stop having to dig everything up. Fiji has no scent whatsoever but it’s petals are thick and almost look plastic. It seems like it would be a good cut rose, tho I haven’t tested it.

Pat, the stems on your Dark Desire look so long, it looks amazing! Is your DD grafted or own root?

Most of my older Kordes roses are good performers too and for the most part disease resistant.

BEROLINA HT has been blooming non stop since late April and is still putting on new growth.

LIEBESZAUBER HT is probably my best red Hybrid Tea, I have two that bloom all season long.

BRIDE’S DREAM HT

ROYAL WILLIAM HT - I’ve had this one the longest

SUNSPRITE FLORIBUNDA- A favorite because of its fragrance

I planted BLUE GIRL, even though I’ve read mixed reviews about it, thought I’d give it a try. I believe I saw a picture of BenT’s that’s about the prettiest I’ve seen of that rose, mine probably won’t look like that, but I can dream!

Sara Ann, Kordes should let you trial their roses and they ought to use your photos in their promotion ads. I also bought a bareroot Blue Girl and a Blue Moon, which may or may not be the same rose, this year. I know I'm just dreaming, too, but you don't know until you try. Back when I bought Colette, it was rated z7, and I believe it has been changed to z5 or 6 now. So, even the experts aren't always right.

I have 2 year olds savannah, summer romanceand moonlight. They are gorgeous when in bloom. Brand new fire opal and plum perfect. i liked both of them. The plum perfect color is very juicy kind;) and fire opal is a tiny bush but has already given me 6 blooms . They are both 1 month old in pots

Flowers while at work I think my internet or phone doesn’t work very well. I always check the forum while I drink coffee or have the slightest break. I just saw your previous message. That is indeed me (not a very tall Cuban girl). I am leaning forward for the picture, but I am only 5’3 and 32 years old. Fiji was a large probably 2 to 3 gallon rose when I got her from my local Lowe’s a couple of years ago. That year I got Madame A, dark desire and Fiji. Since then the local supply of Kordes has been very limited and I wonder why they didn’t keep bringing all those awesome roses. Roses do seem to like our humid “Alabamian’ weather to grow and grow and also to black spot a lot. I thank you for the compliments to my garden and myself. No secrets around here. I add a well balanced fertilizer and water a lot on the weekends and try to add lots of manure like Diane does in the winter if posible. Last year I accidentally bought a pallet of manure with not so composted chicken poop in it. At some point my husband refused me entrance to the house until I was hosed down outside :) but the roses loved it. Thank you for sharing the link to your Bonny, there is something special about it. It makes me think of fantasy castles or Romeo and Juliet.

Savannah at the Birmingham botanical garden. I don’t think they spray and I did see some black spot, but even as a young plant it was beautiful.

All 40 of my roses were planted this April, and I only have 1 Kordes.

It’s foliage is by far the best of the bunch though.

Caramella Fairy Tale looks so great that I'm extremely interested in the fairy tale and romantica series they have now.

This is its first bloom today. Attractive orange/red buds too.

Flowers, thank you, I would go for that! Colette is a gorgeous rose, I love the pictures I’ve seen. R, I planted Savannah this spring and I’m very anxious to see its first blooms, I love the fragrance of that one. jc, your Caramella Fairytale is gorgeous!

I live in blackspot central in GA, but have some great Kordes roses in my no spray garden.

Earth Angel, Bliss, Poseidon, Dark Desires, Wedding Bells, Fiji, and Summer Romance (year 2, hoping it blooms more) are all disease resistant for me. Love them.

Plum Perfect, Quicksilver, and Honeymoon all get blackspot for me.

Soul Sister and Summer Memories have been removed due to powdery mildew (recurrent infections and spreading it to neighboring roses).

About to plant Cinderella Fairy Tale, Gypsy Soul, Florentina, Beverly, and First Crush.

Forgot to mention Cream Veranda! It gets some blackspot, but blooms well. First year it had semi double blooms, but this year it's really wowed me with it's full blooms. Glad I didn't shovel prune it!

Thank you Rose Apothecary, I noticed you have Bliss, I planted one this year, hasn’t bloomed yet, but looks so healthy, anxious to see the blooms! How do you like Wedding Bells? I love Beverly, There are just so many great Kordes roses, but I know they’re not all perfect all the time, just trying to figure it all out, I sure love learning which ones are everyone’s favorites.and do the best for each of you.

Sara Ann, Bliss is amazing, I love it and will get multiples of it one day. Wedding Bells is new from last fall. I had 2 blooms that I really liked, then rabbits ate it to the ground! It's bounced back well but still small. I think it'll be a winner though. Very healthy so far.

Thank you Rose Apothecary! Happy to know that about Bliss. I’ve been back and forth on Wedding Bells, wondering if it would be too similar to Beverly, even though it does look different in the pictures. I think Beverly is a beautiful color, but sometimes almost looks neon pink for me. Like the bloom here, which is near,ly perfect, but the color is almost too much! Still love it though.

I can’t wait for my Savannah to bloom, it is looking very good, and has about 15 buds on it.

Berolina just keeps blooming, love it when roses do that!

The Earth Angel I planted last year from RU. Only a year old.

Beautiful pictures! Sara Ann my Beverly is brand new so I can't say how similar they are yet. I think if you have space, Wedding Bells is still worth getting. How big does your Beverly grow?

I am thinking about s/p Savannah... healthy but awkward bush and the flowers do nothing for me. Strange bc I know a lot of people love her. Space is so limited... hmmmm...

Thanks. Witchygirl, your Earth Angel is looking good.

RA, I’m sure I’ll end up getting a Wedding Bells at some point. I love the fragrance of Savannah, the grafted bush I just planted looks so healthy and has about 15 buds on it. I planted another Beverly too. My established Beverly is about 6 ft tall I think. I think I’ve had it since 2014.

Moonlight
Plum perfect

Thank you R, love the uniquely beautiful color of your Moonlight and I really do like Plum Perfect!

Someone asked about Queen of hearts fairy tale

It does get some black spots in my climate

Queen of hearts fairy tale

I asked about queen of hearts. I was intrigued by the colouring. Considering you said it gets some black spot; your's looks pretty good to me!

I would love to hear more about Harlequin and Antique 89. I consider them every year, but don't know enough them to order.

My new favourite is Bordeaux Citiscape Pretty fragrant flower and always in bloom.

Queen of hearts is clean til July. I have a super humid climate.

This thread has been a wonderful tutorial in Kordes roses. I had no idea of the scope of this group, and how many very pretty roses are included. As a lover of old roses I must admit that I'm not fond of the growth habit and the large leathery leaves of the Kordes roses, but there's always a trade-off, and these qualities no doubt make these roses more disease-resistant. My only Kordes rose is Plum Perfect, and it has put on very little growth, which I think is due to rose replant disease, but the one bloom I've had recently lasted for days in the heat, and that makes it a winner in my book. Of the many roses discussed here I'm most attracted to Poseidon, Quicksilver, Bonny and Bliss.

Update: Poisedon and Fiji now have some blackspot (less than 50%).

The top one for me has to be Golden Fairy Tale. Tall HT/Grandiflora? Disease resistant and winter hardy. Truly plant and forget, my type of rose

Another photo

farmerduck:

Were those Golden FT photos taken today (July 26) here in NJ?

I think my favorite Kordes rose I’ve grown so far has been First Crush. The fragrance of fruit salad and the irregular/substantial blooms are wonderful. Earth Angel has a similar fragrance and was healthier but I didn’t care for the way the blooms looked like a dirty cream - I don’t know if it is my moist/humid environment or what. I lost it during it’s first winter and I almost want to try it again to see if that improves with age.

I received Quicksilver last year and it was a bit slow to get going but blooming well now and I was surprised that it has had a moderate fragrance. The color is amazing!

Dave, do you do anything special for your First Crush? I would love to grow it, but out of 3, I only have 1 left and it's a pitiful looking little thing. One was grafted and 2 were own root, but none did well here and dwindled down to a few inches. My zone might even be the same as yours by now, but that rose just wanted something I didn't have or didn't know to give it. The last one is coming out this year unless I figure out how to help it.

I’m sorry yours have been dwindling, flowers. Mine has stayed compact at about 3 feet but hasn’t been weak. I could only guess your zone/climate being the major factor. I purchased mine from Lowes in the 2 (or 3?) gallon containers a few years ago. They only carried FC for a couple of years and, sadly, none of the Parfuma collection was sold this year. Heirloom clearanced their stock and Palatine did not carry it this year and will not carry it next year. (I’m looking for more) I wonder if others have problems with this rose - weak grower, less disease resistant than would be expected from Kordes, etc. I wonder if it is going to be discontinued. I hope not. Do you have yours in the ground or pot? Mine was a decent size when I purchased it but I grew it in a 15 gallon pot for a season to put on even more growth before it went in the ground.

Dave, all of mine were in the ground. One came from Northland as an own root and two came from big box stores, probably grafted - don't remember. I don't believe Northland sells it anymore, so it may just not be the rose for this climate. I am surprised to hear neither Heirloom or Palatine will carry it anymore. A lot of people have had great success with it. I love looking at those blooms, and might try again someday.

Hands down....South Africa. In my mild climate, many of the rest of them just grow too big.

I didn't realize so many kordes roses I have until I started seeing some of you naming what you have in your yards.

I love out of rosenheim I love the color of Fiji Earth angel is growing on me and Beverly is a champ.

Apparently I have no pictures of Fiji

I had Savannah but found her to have huge foliage and few blooms. So she got the shovel.

I forgot Plum perfect and Quicksilver. They are both babies so hopefully next year I will be able to give a positive review

A few Kordes are bulletproof of bs in my 90+ F and 67% humidity weather this summer:

Summer Romance

Earth Angel

Kiss me Kate

Honeymoon

Florentina

The rest did well in the spring but have bs more or less right now:

Savannah

First Crush

Mislabeled Cream Veranda

Fiji

Plum Perfect

Soul Sisters

Quicksilver

Needless to say, the ones stayed clean from bs performed well and became my favorites this year.

Which Kordes roses have the best scents? Thank you.

I put up with Savannah's huge bush but few blooms (in 4 hrs. of morning sun) since its scent is wonderful. I love Poseidon's health and continuous blooming (10 time smore blooms than Savannah), but Poseidon has a faint clove/grassy scent. Below is Savannah next to Twilight Zone bloom:

Poseidon is loaded with blooms even during July 4th hot and dry at 90 F:

Thank you for any info. on Kordes' scents, I hope to find another Kordes with good scent. Saw Cream Veranda at HomeDepot for only $5 many years ago, but I didn't like its weird fruity scent, so I didn't buy. No regret.

Straw, for me Savannah turned. in to a behemoth of greenery with few blooms . She met Mr Shovel

Fiji

Bliss

Beverly fits the bill.

Wow!! Beautiful. Poseidon doesn’t bloom much for me. I love the scent of madame anisette and Earth Angel is quickly becoming a favorite!!

Please share your updates on how the Kordes roses are performing for you! Have you had good luck?

I’ve added a few new ones this year. Some have been planted and some are still in pots.

These are the newbies:

Bliss

Dark Desire

Florentina

Heaven on Earth

Honeymoon on fort

Kiss Me Kate

Plum Perfect on fort

Poseidon on fort

Do you have any experience with these? How do they perform for you? Which have the best fragrance to you? thanks!

I also might try to grab a Laguna and a Quicksilver tomorrow from a local nursery. How do these perform no-spray?

Laguna is spotless here and Quicksilver was pretty dang good until late fall. Kiss Me Kate is slooooooow. Bliss is excellent and Heaven on Earth has stunning flowers but the plant shape itself is a bit wonky-nothing that would deter me from recommending it though

My Kordes roses all only have one season under their belt, I'm really looking forward to this year! Laguna, Alchemist, and Raubritter are entering year 2 this year, and Morgengruss will be new for me.

Poseidon matured iinto a very nice bush for me, mine was on Fort, too

Pardon the electrical equipment, I know it does’t complement the pale lavender blue, but I plant the rose whereever I can!

Wow!! I can only dream….

I have a couple of roses from the Kords family. In my garden, they are great roses.

Kiss Kordana---A beautiful red mini that you can buy at the local grocery store.

Hannah Gordon---A big, strong floribunda. White blooms tipped in bright red.

Folklore---A big HT that produces large, soft orange blooms that have a great fragrance.

Folkmagic---Just received this year. A sport of Folklore. A soft cream color bloom on a bush that is identical to Folklore.

Photo's to come this growing season.

I only have two on your list, Sunny; Kiss Me Kate and Plum Perfect. In my Arizona climate, KMK throws thick, stiff canes straight for the sky, 8 to 10 feet tall. There is no way to do much training or bending of any kind. They aren’t flexible even when the canes are young and fresh. They snap off with very little pressure, so a gentle fanning of the canes is all I can accomplish on mine. She is very vigorous, breaking new basal canes all during the growing season. Her spring flush is delectable, big fat cup cupcake booms with a fragrance that I love. Unfortunately, I don’t get very much rebloom, but this will be my 4th summer with her and I keep hoping for improvement in that area. I pruned her back pretty hard this spring and am hoping that kickstarts her blooming into overdrive.
Plum Perfect is only starting her second year in my garden and the first summer in the ground as I kept her in a pot the first season. She has been maintenance free and beautiful and I have no complaints except for her lack of fragrance, but I don’t think PP ever has much fragrance and in my arid climate, not much can be expected.