Compare Kinetico and Rayne water systems
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Jake The Wonderdog
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help! water softener and ro system for my home
Comments (52)Lol. I hear ya. Thanks for pointing that one out to me - I haven't done as much research into RO units as I did the softeners. I guess I'll get an education on how to do some actual plumbing in the next couple weeks... I'm bet the guy used a saddle valve in my basement when he installed my humidifier a year or so ago...I'll check that out. This post was edited by Jlmurph2 on Fri, Apr 26, 13 at 11:03...See MoreCulligan vs. Kinetico for very hard water
Comments (34)Simpler terms of what Jake says above ... A 30 amp 125 volt circuit (if that's really what you have) on your current water heater can provide 3,750 watts, figure 3,000 sustained continuous wattage available per the 80% rule. If it's (probably) really a 30 amp 240 volt circuit then the capacity is 7,200, or 5,700 continuous watts available. 36,709 watts (yes, thirty-six thousand seven hundred watts) is required for the tankless water heater per Jake's calculations to instantaneously raise the temperature of 55°F incoming water to 105°F for 2.5 gals per minute flow on each of two simultaneous showers. That's a 192 amp (say 200 amp) 240 volt circuit per the 80% rule. Just. For. The. Water. Heater. You may not need quite that much heating capacity in real usage (if you run the showers at lower flow), or you may need more capacity for higher temperatures on multiple tasks or lower than 55°F incoming water supply ... but either way it's still much more power than you're apparently understanding, so, no, your existing electric circuit to your tank water heater cannot support a tankless unit of sufficient heating capacity. My electric tankless on a 120 amp 240 volt circuit has been fine for 17+ years but I'm a one-person household, run my shower lower than 2 GPM by habit, and rarely run shower and/or dishwasher and/or clothes washing at the same time. Whether you can upgrade that circuit to support a tankless water heater depends on the details of the total available power supply to your condo, and space in the existing breaker box, and your budget....See MoreCrystal Quest Reverse Osmosis - comparable or better system
Comments (28)Well, I also understand the idea that from point A, where your whole house carbon filter removes chlorine from your water, to point B, (any faucet in your house), you have chlorine free water sitting in your pipes. How high is the risk of that water getting contaminated? Do you have to touch one of the faucets with dirty hands to create a breeding ground for bacteria or since it is present everywhere, it will start multiplying in your pipes without any direct contact? How long will it take to contaminate your water? What are the chances: 1 out of 1000 or let's say 1 out of 100,000? Even if I'm ok gambling with the latter, I'm not willing to take 1 out of 1000. Also, what would be the dangerous level of contamination for drinking? What if we use water, which is being stripped of chlorine at our garage, just for showers and brushing our teeth, never for drinking? In our case, when we put RO under our kitchen faucet, we will have chlorine water till it hits RO = perfect scenario - we will be removing chlorine right before we consume this water; it won't be sitting in pipes (I mentioned earlier that our whole house carbon set-up goes everywhere except the kitchen faucet) How about making it a habit to flush chlorine free water before drinking? Asolo offered to test his/her water. Unfortunately, the results will be inconclusive unless water will be tested every week for the duration of several months. This kind of experiment can be done by some lab which can perfom tests immediately and do it as often as they want. We are putting ourselves at risk of getting sick on daily basis by touching door knobs at work, shopping carts at stores, and even shaking hands with friends. Several years ago medical professionals used to think that common cold or flu virus would survive on these surfaces no longer than a few minutes, relatively recently they found out that it can be hours. You pick up that virus sitting there for hours, rub your eyes or pick your nose - there is a very big chance you will get sick. I would say it is 50/50, depends on how strong your immune system is. Again, are we talking about real danger when we have chlorine free water sitting in our house pipes for a few days? Some people are very sensitive to chlorine while others don't see a big deal. I wish I would not care and see no difference between chlorinated and chlorine free water, but like Asolo, I do. On the top of it, as I mentioned already, all these reports telling you about dangers of chlorine by-products are not giving me more incentive to have it in my water. So, before making my decision, I have to weigh the danger of chlorine free water being contaminated from point A to point B vs the danger of chlorine by products and just my personal preference of liking chlorine free water. I don't know what to do at this point....See MoreWhich is better - this Canature system, or this Kinetico system?
Comments (6)THANK YOU THANK YOU to biermech, aliceinwonderland, and justalurker (definitely not "just" a lurker! LOL) - I now feel much much more confident with demanding for the Kinetico install. The $3200 we already paid (in Canadian... so it's less in USD these days) - already includes installation by the local Kinetico installer (whom i had met ... funny enough, was sent here by the GC for a quote AFTER i told him i didn't want the Canature back last fall). Our GC is usually very decent, so i think it's an honest oversight on his part, not maliciously so.... the retailer and wholesaler of this CAC system, however... i can't really vouch for. Our plumber has also had a history of gouging me on smaller side projects in the past, so.... hopefully in a month, we'll be happy owners of a Kinetico system. Many thanks for the honest unbiased opinion!!!...See MoreCyndy
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