"Charlottesville wouldn't have occurred without Trump."

dublinbay z6 (KS)

Straight out of the horse's mouth:

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"An organizer of a notorious white nationalist rally held in Charlottesville, Virginia, nearly two years ago said it would not have taken place had Donald Trump not become president.

"There is no question that Charlottesville wouldn't have occurred without Trump," Richard Spencer, a leader of the so-called "alt-right," said in an interview with The Atlantic magazine.

"It really was because of his campaign and this new potential for a nationalist candidate who was resonating with the public in a very intense way," Spencer said.

"The alt-right found something in Trump," he said. "He changed the paradigm and made this kind of public presence of the alt-right possible."

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The counter-protesters had gathered in opposition to the white supremacists who had come to the university town ostensibly to protest the removal of a Confederate statue.

Trump has been accused of giving tacit encouragement to white supremacists by failing to unequivocally condemn their ideology and his anti-immigration policies have mostly targeted Muslims, Africans and Latinos.

Trump drew broad criticism following the Charlottesville violence when he spoke of "very fine people" and "blame on both sides," appearing to establish a moral equivalence between the white supremacists and those who opposed them.

The incident turned Charlottesville into a symbol of the growing audacity of the far right under Trump.

Spencer, one of the organizers of the "Unite the Right" rally, told the Atlantic that Trump was "being honest and calling it like he saw it."

"I was proud of him at that moment," he said."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-alt-leader-no-charlottesville-without-trump-211142312.html

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Now all those Trumplicans who earlier vehemently denied any connection between Trump and the alt-right, and who insisted vigorously that the rally was only about the issue of Confederate statues--what say you now that the alt-right has spoken?

Kate

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HU-73492036

Cue the lengthy pretzel logic posts.

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dandyfopp

When you share a party and political ideals with Nazis it must be hard to swallow, I get it.

Rather than re evaluate- deny, far easier.

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HU-73492036

What happened to the comments on this thread? Does someone want the thread to drop off? No posts violated houzz rules.

Edited to add - the posts suddenly appeared. Houzz is so glitchy ;)

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woodnymph2_gw

The connections between Trump's hate speech going back to even before he became POTUS to the rise of hate groups and their new boldness are very clear to anyone who has been paying attention.

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dandyfopp

Central Park Five is unforgettable, but of course, no biggie to Donnie fans.

Those guys probably did something somewhere sometime worthy of the death penalty, Donnie could tell just by looking, he is a genius that way.

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sunflower_petal(5a)

Trump is an inspiration all right.

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patriciae_gw(07)

I have always said to those who claim Trump is not a supporter of White supremacy that they(white supremacists) think that he is. Who am I going to believe? Who is confused? Trump could settle this in a tweet beat.

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cyn427 (z. 7, N. VA)(zone 7, Northern VA)

I just can't stand that Richard Spencer has taken up residence in my town. Guess he wanted to be closer to his hero.

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catticusmockingbird

Well, what do you know. Not a peep. Guess they realized it's impossible to deny.

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tony jelly

Perhaps a riff, but did you know that Charlotte, the female equivalent of Charles, means FREE? The slave-owning founders of Charlotteville named their town Free Town.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

There is an historical irony for you, tony.

Kate

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HU-73492036

The premise of the other thread (that has been hidden three times) ties nicely with this one. The hidden thread argues that Trump is a product of the views and behaviors of his supporters. They aren't ignoring his terrible behavior because of other perceived benefits. They applaud and endorse it.

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dandyfopp

It is a truth plain as day.

Donnie simply seeks applause and to avoid shame. That is all he wants.

He doesn't hold any beliefs of his own.

He is looking for an applause line, a punch line to get him the adulation he can't live without. He will say anything to get it and that is how we get something like Charlottesville. Then he can't acknowledge that he emboldened nazis so we get Both Sides.


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