How many knockout roses would you put here?
CJ Mac
4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago
Zone 7B, Alabama
Transplanted a nice healthy camellia to this area in the Fall. Kept it alive over the winter by covering with freeze cloth--and then our neighbors hired some lawn/landscape guys to remove 2 large hollies from the corners of their house (shown below) who proceeded to dump one of them directly on top of our camellia, killing it.
:-(
My husband misses the knockout roses we had in our backyard that our neighbor on our other side objected to and we removed to keep the peace. Hubby would like us to plant some at this spot in the front. My question is how many do you think would look good here? The property line is right along the masonry wall: would love to bring attention away from that bare, rocky area above it that doesn't seem to bother those neighbors at all.
Last year we removed confederate jasmine and honeysuckle all along our side of the wall. The intention was to let the grass grow back and make that area easier to maintain. Will 3 or so roses cause any problems you can think of? Not being gardeners, we always discover after a project that there were consequences we hadn't foreseen (i.e., creating too much shade that kills the bermuda grass).
Appreciate your help!
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Comments (8)No, they don't need a trellis or support - you just prune them to grow where you want. I'm not sure about how they grow where you are, but here they are most often seen as large, leggy shrubs that flower on the tops only because most people don't prune them or don't prune them to get flowers all over the shrub. I was surprised the gardengal said 'bloom through the summer' - here they only bloom in August into September, which makes them a valuable late summer shrub. If you prune them to a narrow shape, you do need to do a severe prune every couple of years or else you'd end up with the tall, leggy look. The plant in picture above was cut back by about half that spring, staggering the cuts to make sure all the flowers wouldn't be on the top. In another two years I'll need to cut it back again. Every year I watch for branches growing out toward the path and cut them off to keep it to a narrow profile. It's very easy to do - essentially you just cut off what is growing where you don't want it. It is listed as a plant that butterflies and hummingbirds like. I suspect the hummingbirds would prefer the single form. I have no idea what variety mine is. I bought it as 'tricolor', which is a grafted plant with three different kinds growing on one plant. I didn't like the other two and cut them off so now I only get the one in the picture. As gardengal said, it's not evergreen. It also seeds around the base so you do need to eliminate seedlings (I tend to just cut them down). And now I've probably made it sound like too much work to grow :-)...See MoreWhat rose would you put in here?
Comments (7)definitely not The Fairy... mine had to be repotted up from a 2 gallon container. There is an article somewhere in this site about the different types and sizes of minis, I know that some minis get big but others don't. A climber would be cute, though....See MoreWhat (Rose or Otherwise) Would You Put Up a 7.5' Obelisk?
Comments (15)I'm glad that Setzer Noisette might work, Jeri. hoovb- It's about a mile and a quarter inland from the beach. Besides a jackmanii in relatively sunny conditions that does well, all recent attempts at Clematis in full sun just haven't gone well there. Henryi (One of the few cultivar names I can recall) was on the verge of death till I finally moved it to a shady spot. Perhaps our care has been less perfect and the sample size is fairly small, but I'm somewhat hesitant to plant a Clematis in a spot in the front yard if it's going to perform as other Clems have in similar conditions. She actually already grows a few of the recent suggestions elsewhere (Reine des Violettes, Cornelia, and Night Owl). As for Pax, we're both big fans of the Hybrid Musks. Penelope, Prosperity, and possibly Pax would all offer lovely light tones, but of those three I have only seen Prosperity grown in a way that might work. Penelope strikes me as more of a shrubby rose and Pax as perhaps too much rose. Though more apricot, Nymphenburg is intriguing. It doesn't seem to be a widely grown rose so I don't expect much feedback on it. I have mostly seen it as a shrub, but it's grown as a pillar rose at the Huntington so perhaps it could be applied to an obelisk. It is quite pretty. I've previously thought about getting it for myself, but seeing it at the Huntington made me reconsider. Perhaps this is a good opportunity for vicarious gardening. Jay...See MoreWhat would you put here?
Comments (62)This latest, new plan isn't bad at all, but I think the old hutch is prettier. I agree with Sweeby on the overthinking thing, specifically about the part where you're wondering about foci and symmetry. Let's leave the analytic geometry in the schoolroom. ;) What you're saying about things to focus on is that your kitchen is going to be so stinkin' gorgeous that everywhere someone looks will be a beautiful prospect? Try opening a thread on that problem and see if you get any sympathy. (Sorry, couldn't help teasing... I do know what you mean, but in a space where people really do face in all kinds of different directions it's a non-issue.) As to the symmetry, the enforced assymetry of the large, different color hutch and the narrow white toasterish thing helps to offset the enforced symmetry you have elsewhere and make the space more organic and less mathematical. (Well, organic is really mathematical too, Fibonacci style, but I'm not about to start doing numerology on your hutches...) Re how much stuff you have: There's one of those corollaries to Murphy's Law that says, "The amount of stuff to be stored automatically expands to fill the space available in which to store it." Or else things get spaced out farther. My friends are always amazed at how much more I can fit neatly onto their shelves than they. Sometimes you have space and make beautiful arrangements. Sometimes you just get it all put away. ;) Re the overhugeness of the hutch. Toddlers. Toddlers inevitably become taller. They sometimes become very tall indeed. Perhaps when they're all at least moderately tall, like my mother did when we grew, you'll get "good" kitchen dishes. That you want to put in the hutch. Or you'll put the old, yucky ones in the hutch for your tall not-toddlers and their taller friends. Drawer storage is great for some people for dishes. For me it's a bit low, and I'm not even all that tall! My dishes are going up. So while you might not imagine it now, think about the ravenous hordes that will be blowing through your house in another ten years. When they've all left home, and you don't want to reach up for any daily use stuff, think about all the hand print dishes, my favorite grandma mugs, and lumpy first tries on a potting wheel that your kids and grandkids will bestow upon you, and which you'll want to see, but not necessarily in your front room, and that will make you happy but might not make you want to use them. Yep. If you really want the skinny hutch because of your love of skinny hutches, go for it. But I think your kitchen likes the big contrasting hutch....See MoreCJ Mac
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4 years agoI think that my Teasing Georgia in part shade has as many blooms on her now as the KO down the street in full sun and TG is pretty disease resistant for me. With the exception of TG, I dont think any of my Austins dont has as many blooms as the DA catalogs, but I think that is because I dont have full sun anywhere in my garden.
But for me the quality and color of the blooms isp0 more important than many more blooms on the bush that are not as pleasing to the eye. Also fragrance is very important to me.
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