Iris, I think your English as a second language is admirable. You do fine! You do so well you don't even give me chuckles like someone I know learning English - and to be fair she doesn't live where English is spoken daily to be exposed to it.

Not too long ago she wrote that her husband had been hurt at the beach. 'He broke his finger on his leg'. What? How in the world did he hit himself in the leg hard enough to break a finger!

He broke a toe - finger on a leg.

Iris, your English as a second language is way better than the English of a lot of people who speak English as their first language.

I've been trying to learn to speak Spanish for years. Let me just say that you speak English much better than I speak Spanish.

I actually enjoy reading what people learning English write. It's almost as though they write with an accent and I find it endearing. When we were in Thailand, I had a problem getting the wifi option on my new Cannon camera to work. We took it to a Cannon dealership in Bangkok and told the guy who was helping us that we didn't know what the problem was. He messed around with it for a while and then said, " I do not know too." What he meant was "I don't know either." I thought it was charming.

Did the grammar/spelling police show up today? I was gone most of the day so have no idea what went on around these parts. I do find correcting people's spelling and/or grammar to be in bad form and mean spirited. All of us can figure out what is meant without publicly embarrassing the poster by publicly correcting them. Plus, many errors are the result of the auto correct feature on tablets and mobile devices.

I'm much more interested in the substance of the post rather than whatever errors the poster may have made.

Another no buttons vote. This isn't Facebook, and I wouldn't be here if it was.

I agree with scrolling on by or not saying anything. It's the more mature thing to do.

I'm another who truly dislikes the idea of a thumbs down button. It would make these forums even more mean spirited and judgemental than they already can be at times.

I've even seen the like icon used in a negative way, don't even want to think about how that little thumbs down button would be wielded though I would hurt myself clicking it every time I saw someone make a mean comment about another's grammar or spelling. That's as low as a person can go.

I definitely don't want a thumbs-down button. I'm sure I know who will get a number of them in comments made. :-(

It would turn this group into nothing more than the Hot Topics.

Absolutely no need.

Absolutely no thumbs down button. If you don’t like it, just scroll on by. Just like YouTube, people will give thumbs down just out of meanness. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

No buttons please. Another opportunity to be rude.....no...no...no!

Another vote for no Thumbs Down button. Just scroll on by is the best solution.

I almost never use the 'like' button, but I just used it to add a 'Me too!" on a comment here. We don't need a 'don't like' symbol. If you disagree, you need to explain that in words.

There is an option to flag a post (and even a thread) as an "I don't like". I'm not sure it has any impact beyond you expressing your displeasure - it is not visible to anyone else and does not cause the thread or post to be removed. Otherwise, I see no reason for anything further than that - if you dislike a post just ignore it or post a (polite) reponse saying why.

I also think the "like" button is pretty useless and far too overused. I only use it when I strongly agree with something posted. But too many OP's seem to think that it is mandatory to 'like' everyone that posts on their thread......that is not what it was intended for.

If two people don't like a post/thread, it disappears. Just a word of warning. If you don't intend to go that far

Absolutely no thumbs down button!!! That's just middle schoolish. (Made up word)

Rob, that is not correct :-) Removal of a post is never automatic by tagging even if several people tag it, unless it is obvious spam. Otherwise, it is up to Houzz adminstration/moderators to make a determination to keep or remove.

I'll toss in my vote for no thumbs down.

The purpose of this site is a discussion board. If you want to participate in the discussion, you should do so with words or scroll by if you have nothing to add.

There is a way to include a vote in a post. If you want to segregate opinions on your post, you can do that and customize the votes.

I'll modify my statement gardengal, it'll disappear, temporarily or permanently :)

It only disappears to the one doing the tagging :-) And then, that is usually not permanent either.

I don't want any post or thread to disappear unless they are spam. That is the purpose of the flag button. I only use the like/thumbs up to show the I completely approve of what was said.

Yes, I have one certain poster in mind for the dislike/thumbs down. This poster ruins every post by taking an antagonistic position to anyone else. If you try to counter this poster's comment, it just generates another post by the same person with another argument. It tends to ruin the entire post for me. Yes, I have "scrolled on by", but it still doesn't help when you go back to look at a new post and it is nothing but the same argument. What started out as a nice, fun, or informative post is destroyed and I end up just selecting to switch off notifications.

I don't care to argue with this idiot, but I would like to express my opinion about the post. I don't mind different opinions, they are great. When they are polite and expose a different idea or view of something, you can learn a lot. What I detest is the way this poster attacks everyone. If you said the sky was blue and grass was green on a sunny day, there would be an argument.

By the way, this is not from Hot Topics. I never go to that forum.

I only like something if I agree with the complete statement and it was something that I would have said. It saves me from having to type it.

I like robb333's first comment because that is what I do. I just scroll on by if I don't agree with what someone is saying.

I do go to Hot Topics. I do a lot of scrolling on by and automatically scroll on by threads that are started by certain posters.

This poster never starts a thread as far as I can tell. This poster just finds an argument and goes with it as long and as far as possible. The goal seems to be to cause the most disruption possible.

sherry, if you're referring to me, you need no invitation to disagree with what I've said whenever you want. Leave out the personal comments, that's something you on occasion fail to do.

Conversations when everyone has the same view are boring to me, I stay out of them.

Yes I do start threads, though they tend to be more topical (not like Hot Topics though). As a male, my perspectives and what's of interest to me are often different from what's of interest to others here whose demographics differ from mine.

We all know who you're referring to, and I think it's immature to want a thumbs-down option.

Certainly we don't all agree with everyone all the time, there wouldn't need to be a forum or conversation place if that were the case. It's good to see other perspectives, and often something is mentioned that I hadn't thought of, which is always good. And provides a different angle on a topic.

I fail to see how ANYONE could know who I was talking about. There was no reference to a particular thread or even if the person was male or female......

I DO find it interesting that everyone including Elmer seems to think it was him?????????????

What I find disruptive is name calling and personal attacks. Different opinions and views are always welcome and refreshing.

I don't think we need a Thumbs Down button as much as a Tears Shed button. We may not like something we want to respond to, but we'd like to respond to that person who is feeling sorrowful about something in his or her life. Without sounding like we are "happy" about it.

Voting "no" to a thumbs down button, as we don't need additional negativity at the KT. I scroll on by if I don't agree or dislike something, as most of the heated disagreements are generally between the same posters. Why add more fuel.

I agree with Ava, I really enjoy different opinions and perspectives, but not the name calling and personal attacks.

Yes artemis, that is what I was saying up thread.

Sherry, I think it's a reasonable assumption as you've been vocal about your dislike of Elmer in the past. I remember getting into a discussion about it with you in a long-since-deleted thread.

JMO...but regardless if any of us knew or thought we knew who Sherry was referring to...I don't think we should have spoke up saying ...oh it must be so and so your talking about...after all if Sherry wanted to toss out a name she would have done so. Some things are better left for our minds to ponder instead of stirring the spoon

Im not picking on who did this...actually once I started writing this I forgot who said it..lol.

I don't like the idea of a down button or should I call it a bully button. What real good would it bring. Speak up in a respectful manner and disagree if need be...

I still think we need more than a like. I really like the idea of a sad. Several of you have attacked me and I never indicated who or what I was referring to at this time. While you are entitled to your opinion. I DO NOT appreciate your direct attacks on me. You need to practice your stated "scroll on by".

ETA: I am starting to understand why everyone IS moving to Facebook. It sounds like a great idea.

Sherry wrote:

I DO NOT appreciate your direct attacks on me. You need to practice your stated "scroll on by".

You should practice what you preach! I am sure the "nameless" person doesn't appreciate your personal attacks any more than I appreciate reading them.

I don't agree with a thumbs down, why spread more hate in the world, we have enough already.

tjkeen, I don't see any posts regarding you on this thread....

I don't see any regarding you either Jasdip...... My reply was to Sherry and a statement she made.

Personally, I think it's mean to talk about someone here without using their name, especially when calling them names. It just seems like an easy way out to be able to attack someone without taking the responsibility for it, and being able to deny it if confronted.

I just think it spreads more negativity wondering who the KT "idiot" is who inspired this thread.

"Arguing" with another poster assumes maintaining a dialogue with them. It is very easy to express a differing opinion or a dislike of a comment without entering into any kind of argument. Just succinctly and politely state your piece and move on! No button is required for exercising restraint and good judgement :-)

Maybe kids have it right, one minute they are rolling in the mud calling each other 'dummy' and the next minute they are pooling ideas to see whether they can raid the cookie jar before dinner. They are direct with their feelings but generally don't hold grudges.

If I was the one who inspired this thread I fail to see how a bunch of thumbs down would help anyway. If you think that would shut me up, I think you do not know me well. All a 'thumbs down' does is comfort the thumber, sort of an emotional masturbation.

" emotional masturbation "

What a great phrase!!!!! It's new to me, is it in common use? Its meaning is so perfectly clear and relevant/appropriate to describe what many do so often.

Thanks

LOL, I love that phrase!!!

tjkeen, my misunderstanding. I completely missed that your comment was a quote!!

Y'all have all struck out. No one that has commented on here is the person or post that I had in mind, but I do find it interesting that you see yourself in it.

Have a nice time. I have found and signed up for several groups not in here. Guess what, they are much more polite (and they even have the buttons). This account will be deleted.

"Y'all have all struck out. No one that has commented on here is the person or post that I had in mind, but I do find it interesting that you see yourself in it.

Have a nice time. I have found and signed up for several groups not in here. Guess what, they are much more polite (and they even have the buttons). This account will be deleted."

It is my opinion that people are the same all over. I wish you happiness Sherry, but I think if you think you have suddenly found a better class of people, wait until the honeymoon is over. Many people here have been in this group for over a decade, that says something positive about us.

"Have a nice time. I have found and signed up for several groups not in here. Guess what, they are much more polite (and they even have the buttons). This account will be deleted."

I wish you luck, though I am confused why you feel attacked.

There's more than some humor with this thread. Started with an aggressive premise, followed on by the OP with additional belligerent/aggressive comments, culminating in a decision that since some expressed disagreement with her, the only alternative is to go away.

The people in the world aren't all homogeneous or like-minded, maybe that's what this person expects and prefers. For me, the differences that are around to discover and learn about are a major thing that makes conversation and travel so interesting.

I am confused as well. Do you mean more polite as in agree with you?

"The people in the world aren't all homogeneous or like-minded"

True, and I think if the OP thinks she has found a group where no one disagrees, I think it is only a matter of time before she discovers the truth. She mentions FB, and I think she is in for a shocker.

"Y'all have all struck out. No one that has commented on here is the person or post that I had in mind, but I do find it interesting that you see yourself in it.

Have a nice time. I have found and signed up for several groups not in here. Guess what, they are much more polite (and they even have the buttons). This account will be deleted. "

Is this the internet equivalent of slamming the door in someone's face or hanging up the telephone? It certainly doesn't resemble a mic drop.....to each his own but deleting one's account over not having a particular "vote" seems a bit overboard.

If Sherry ever comes back to read this thread, I hope she's found a bit of peace and happiness in her internet worlds.

How bizarre. Have a feeling I know who she was referring to. Have no idea why she thinks being able to give that person's comments a thumbs down would make her feel any better.

Sherry, I don't know why you feel that it's more important to belong to a group with more 'buttons' than this one who you've been part of for a while.

That's not a very good reason to leave, but if that's what it takes, I wish you well.

I can't remember what forum it was at ,but they had a "mute poster" button so their replies wouldn't show up. It worked great. It was private , no one knew if you muted them. Feelings weren't hurt and life went on ...

Looks like she deleted her account. That's a shame. I don't really understand why she was so upset.