Busted! "Hot" topic debunked

cait1

Last Wednesday we saw this topic on the board:

Trump’s ‘truly bizarre’ visit to Mt. Vernon

https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/5667246/trumps-truly-bizarre-visit-to-mt-vernon#n=36

For whatever reason (most probably because of its leftist bent), Politico decided to post a fairy tale authored by Eliana Johnson and Daniel Lippman.


From Townhall:


BUSTED: Mount Vernon Debunks Politico's Fake News Story About Trump's Visit To Washington's Estate


"How many times will the liberal media have to endure getting hit in the face with their shoddy reporting about the Trump White House? Seriously, how many stories have been utterly gutted for being straight trash? From the oodles of bombshells that were nothing burgers about Russian collusion to the bust of MLK Jr. being removed from the Oval Office, the list of fake news stories is extensive. So, it shouldn’t shock us that Politico was caught red-handed trying to bash Trump for being uninterested in a tour of Mount Vernon when French President Emmanuel Macron visited last April. Supposedly, sources said this tour was “truly bizarre,” with Trump being unengaged, asking why George Washington didn’t name any real estate after him..."


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/04/10/busted-mount-vernon-debunks-politicos-fake-news-story-about-trumps-visit-to-wa-n2544609



https://www.mountvernon.org/about/news/article/statement-from-the-mount-vernon-ladies-association-about-the-trump-macron-visit/";


I'm so happy I decided to skip what looked to me to be another fake news piece promoted on HT. How many people read that piece and believed it? So many people once again manipulated by a supposed 'reliable source' into believing a lie.

I used to read Politico, thought it trustworthy, but no more.

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foodonastump

For all your excitement that wasn’t much of a refutation. Just a polite “wasn’t quite like that.”

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mrskjun(9)

Just a genteel way of saying, that was a lying sack!

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Carro

Just Virginia genteelness to say, FAKE NEWS!.

Cait, most hit pieces posted on HT are fake, unsupported, anonymous or debunked already.

But if the haters didn't have fake news to wrap their daily Trump insults around, what would they do?

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foodonastump

You can spin it that way but “tone and context” is pretty mild. I’d be willing to consider that some of the comments were made in jest. I certainly hope so.

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Stan Areted

There are those that love their fake news while complaining about fair and balanced.

What is that term we've heard SO MUCH?

PROJECTION.

It's okay, we don't believe liars anyway.

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Kathy

Trump asked dumb questions politely. I get it. If he wasn’t President he might be likable.

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cattyles

BLIND HOG FOUND AN ACORN!!!!!! (Sort of. But not really. It’s more like a tiny sunflower seed. But look how much excitement it caused so, whatever.) Lol.

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margievank

The left proves time after time that they do not read, do not vet the source, do not care, they just run with negative Trump outrage.

Like I always say Biased Facts. It is their world.

but Trump lies.....


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Kathy

Nothing in the article says Trump didn’t say those things. Just the tone and context weren’t conveyed. Meaning to me it was all friendly and fun at the time.

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margievank

Meaning to me = Left facts

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leona_2008

This is almost SNL-level material. I think I finally got it. trump supporters can't tell the difference between a lie and the truth.

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Joaniepoanie

Now you know why we don't read anything the right posts.....all of it is fake news. But have fun pointing out that a tone of a conversation may not have be portrayed correctly. In actuality, quite the nothingburger.

Margie....no such thing as left or right facts. There only facts, which equal the truth...can't be two truths.




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foodonastump

Joanie, it won’t help. See the post immediately above yours. I’m glad more of them are ordering MAGA gear. Helps weed them out.


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margievank

I’m glad more of them are ordering MAGA gear. Helps weed them out.

LOL- food- we are proud MAGA people. Put us down and we only grow stronger;)

It was the left weaponizing the hat that made me take a stand.

Funny, how they just don't get it.

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Mattie

LOL- food- we are proud MAGA people. Put us down and we only grow stronger;) It was the left weaponizing the hat that made me take a stand. Funny, how they just don't get it.

Weaponizing?

LOL

We get it

$50?

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cait1

@ food

For all your excitement that wasn’t much of a refutation.

I wouldn't call it excitement. I thought it funny and was laughing when I read the Townhall article.

Not much of a refutation? The Ladies' Association statement confirmed that Politico took third-party hearsay, wrote a fairy tale and tried to pass it off as a genuine 'article'.

I rather liked the tactfulness of their statement. Maybe you're just too used to the bluntness of HT?

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cait1

@ cattyles

BLIND HOG FOUND AN ACORN!!!!!!

OK, that made me laugh! : )

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margievank

Me too, I got a visual lol

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cait1

@ Joanie

Now you know why we don't read anything the right posts.....all of it is fake news.

Then why are you posting on this thread?

Did the Ladies' Assoc refute the Politico fairy tale? Yes.

How is that fake?

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cait1

@ food

Helps weed them out.

More like stand out in a crowd. : )

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tony jelly

Once again we have a story that works the same way as satire does, it is so believable because of who is being satirized. Whether Trump said it or not the scenario fits him like a MAGA hat and gloves.

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blfenton

Perhaps comments were pulled from sources who were present and that were then passed on to media sources or other people.

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Mattie

Perhaps comments were pulled from sources who were present

That is how journalism works

I guess the "Ladies of Mount Vernon" don't want to antagonize Trump. After all, he might eliminate any government grants they might get.

Too risky

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leona_2008

Methinks they were just trying to put lipstick on that pig. It is pretty painful to see the presidency dishonored day after day, embarrassing for the world to see our great nation disgraced and stooping so low.

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josephene_gw

So cait why did you post this? Really why?

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Louise McCarthy

Their response was CYA. The WH idiot controls those grants.

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Tilly Teabag

I saw the USA described today as the Divided States of Trumpistan.

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cait1

@ josephene

So cait why did you post this?

To correct the record.

The original post's source, Politico, used several unnamed sources to create its story. Unnamed sources are unreliable witnesses.

Evidently the Ladies' Association thought the same, so much so they put out a statement refuting Politico's claims.

Why wouldn't you want the record corrected? Do you prefer people believing fairy tales?

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cait1

@ tony

it is so believable because of who is being satirized

Should Politico be dabbling in satire without making that clear?

The piece is under the title 'White House'. How many satirized pieces on BO did Politico do under the heading of 'White House'?

IMO they authors went out of their way to find people in order to write a hit piece. That shows a profound bias and I was rather disappointed Politico would go to such lengths.

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cait1

@ Louise

Their response was CYA

How do you know that? Are you a member of the Mount Vernon Ladies' Association?

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Louise McCarthy

Cait1, are you?

Not that particular board but have been a member on various other boards/commissions where CYA is always expected. Which is why I am not on any boards or commissions now.

Such an odd question...

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foodonastump

Here’s how I look at it. Let’s say we didn’t have the Billy Bush tape, but instead some sources simply described what he said. Let’s say they got it right, quoted him verbatim. Could someone from the bus give an honest opinion that the account did “not correctly reflect the events that transpired” because they “did not properly convey the tone and context in which they were delivered”? Absolutely. Even with the tape I am not among those who say he admitted to sexual assault. Others disagree. Different interpretations of the event. But as we all know, it happened. So no one could honestly say it didn’t happen.

Now back to Mount Vernon. If Trump didn’t say those things, then why wouldn’t the Ladies say so? Why focus on “context and tenor”? Most plausible reason I can think of is because they didn’t want to lie.

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Carro

How do you know that? Are you a member of the Mount Vernon Ladies' Association?

;-)

Oh, and the ladies don't discuss such things. Hence the name, "ladies".

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Carro

foas, what part of "we don't talk about high-profile visits" is unclear to you?

Mount Vernon has a firm, long-standing policy of not commenting on the details of high-profile visits to the home of George Washington. However, we believe in the importance of ensuring that reports about events that take place at Mount Vernon are accurate. As such, we are concerned that the third-party accounts of the Trump-Macron visit released by several media outlets today do not correctly reflect the events that transpired nearly a year ago.

Mount Vernon President Doug Bradburn and Regent Sarah Coulson escorted the presidents and first ladies on a tour of the Mansion on April 23, 2018. During the tour, all parties were interested and engaged in the story of George Washington and his beloved home.

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Carro

And such timing, don't you think? Mueller's report didn't deliver and viola! The TDS media pulls some anonymous fake news out of moth balls.

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foodonastump

LMAO - We don’t discuss... we want to make sure reports are accurate... this doesn’t reflect the context and tenor... here’s what was discussed... oops I just discussed.

What part of “we don’t talk about high profile visits” do you still believe?

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Carro

What part of "fake news" don't you get?

Just like Mueller issuing a correction when the fake news was so profoundly wrong, Mount Vernon took the highly unusual step to set the record straight.

Too bad, so sad for fake news. Another one bites the dust...

Don't worry, there will be plenty more anonymous, unfounded, unvetted fake news stories when this one dies and goes to fake news hell.

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Carro

Not much of a refutation? The Ladies' Association statement confirmed that Politico took third-party hearsay, wrote a fairy tale and tried to pass it off as a genuine 'article'.

A polite way of saying, "your sources are garbage".

Don't worry too much about them not getting it, cait. It seems to have gone right over their heads.

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foodonastump

Mount Vernon took the highly unusual step to set the record straight.

Except they didn’t. With no more betrayal to their policy they could have said it didn’t happen. Yet they chose not to. They simply said it didn’t reflect the tone or tenor.


Don’t worry, there’ll be plenty more idiocy for you to ignore because it is backed by video and screenshots of tweets.

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Carro

Oh, foas, Mount Vernon couldn't be more clear. Fake news. Womp womp.


But do keep the story on life support until the next fake news story gets debunked.

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foodonastump

It would take about four words to be more clear. Sad that you can’t read tenor and context.

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Kathy

Chances are Trump ordered the ladies to correct the media and they wrote the letter to please him.

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margievank

Chances are Obama is a spy too Kathy.

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Stan Areted

cait

Why wouldn't you want the record corrected? Do you prefer people believing fairy tales?


Well Obamacare was one of the biggest fairytales and Bamsters bought that hook, line and sinker. Now they're whining about healthcare.

Go figure.

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Carro

Chances are Trump ordered the ladies to correct the media and they wrote the letter to please him.

omg, thanks for the laugh, Kathy!

Because you know how red northern Virginia is!!

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Carro

Sad that you can’t read tenor and context.

Is it? Is it sad? Really? That's sad?

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margievank

Always the same old put down that you can't read or reading comprehension failure when someone does not like a comment;(

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foodonastump

Hey I’m open to anything. To me the most likely scenario is that he did say that stuff, or similar, that he was joking, hence “context and tenor.”


Just my guess though.


What’s not a guess is they they didn’t deny the statements.


And yes, if you’re too partisan to see that then I do think that’s sad.

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Carro

Glass half full, foas. I guess I can't argue with your "can-do" attitude.

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