the only thing i have is a hoya carnosa green leaf if you would like to trade

Kelly, you're right...there are no internodes on my aus.lisa either...hope it stays this way!....it's like a nice-sized rosette. Karen...so many hoyas have nice shiny leaves...and then there are those that look so dull...especially those with the remarkable venations...the leaves look so dull, but are brilliantly beautiful when wet...it'd be nice to have them always look that way. I wonder why some hoyas have such shiny leaves and others have dull-looking ones. Some of the hoyas, expecially the callistophyllas tend to have leaves that actually look dirty and dull....when washed they look magnificent...but, as soon as the leaves are dry, they look dull again. I'm just wondering if there's something natural that can be sprayed onto the leaves to make them look as gorgeous as they're capable of looking. I'd also try it on the finlaysonii complex...though their leaves aren't as "ugly" as those in the callistophylla complex. I wouldn't use anything that would harm the plants...just enhance their beauty. Sorry, the word "ugly" really isn't the case...they just lack the sheen seen on most hoyas. Do you know what I'm trying to say...I know I can be so dense in trying to explain myself! Best wishes, Patrick

Pug, I wonder if your kerrii could be one of the other clones - "hairy kerrii" or the veined clone. Can you give us a closeup of a leaf? I suppose that might make a difference in the color of the sap. I have all three, but hairy kerrii and veined kerrii haven't bloomed for me yet. I think they both will this year because they've both set peduncles. If they do, I can compare flowers... I was whacking away at my kerrii a couple days ago - it's gotten so large and out of control, and I'm selling Hoyas this year (mostly to my cactus club...) to try to supplement our "budget deficit"... Anyway, I found one vine that had three opening peduncles on it, so left that one on for now. They're open now and no signs of any nectar at all yet. I'll have to pay attention and see how long it takes before they produce the nectar. It's not something I ever paid attention to before... Denise in Omaha

Hey Denise, I tried to post this several hrs. ago, but think GW was having trouble. So I'll try again ... Speaking of pink leaves on H. variegates, look what I found yesterday, on just a Krimson Queen, but still one we all know & many love, so pretty. Snowed here yesterday, several inches, so a splash of color is extra nice. I no longer have my green & white Kerri (which was hydro); you & I had discussed some of these are unstable & make strange growth, mine pooped out maybe a year ago last Summer. Thanks for asking abt my losses w/ Hurricane Sandy, it was (IIRC) sadly, lost 7 of the 11 Hoyas w/ which David had gifted me. Am happy to say the Macrophyllas made it. A couple of the other large leafed ones too. Sadly the loss included a couple of cuttings I'd successfully re-hydrated. Oh well! Glad to say I still have my all green Kerrii which also grows Hydro in Leca stones & bloomed 2.5 yrs. after cutting. Happy to report Denise that both Sans cylindrica leaves you'd shared w/ me have taken off. Hope you saw I posted some of that, likely as Sans. forum (thanks again). Hey HoyaLove. Hope you don't mind us using your thread to chat & catch up, we're old C&S & Hoya buddies. Anyway, glad Denise knew that your plant is fine, enjoy.