Bertazzoni vs. Fisher & Paykel Gas Ranges. 2019
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NXR, Fisher Paykel, Bertazzoni 36 inch gas range opinions please
Comments (1)Don't know anything about the F&P. Never seen one. Don't recall any posrings on them. Might help garner comments if you can post a model number. Comparing Bertas and NXRs is a bit like comparing high-style Italian-made sedans (Bertas) to basic, manual-everything, industrial styled imported high-lift 4wd pick-ups for ranch work and off-roading capabilities (NXRs). Bertas are sleek, counterdepth, euro-ranges. Used to be that you could get them in colors. I suppose you've already tried searching for threads? (Sometimes helps if you go out to google and use a search string like "gardenweb + berta"). Have you seen this current thread? http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/2981897/any-users-reviews-of-bertazonni-36-gas-cooktop-or-rangetop?n=9 They have narrower cooktops (that's the counter-depth part) with some peculiarities in operation of the cooktop and oven. Don't know anything about LP conversions of Bertas. If you like the Euro-style appliances (narrow cooktops, small ovens, etc.), you might look into the Ancona ranges at Costco. More Italian euro-style equipment but about half the cost of the Bertas. Most of the NXR postings here have been about the 30" models. Friends of mine on the coast have had a 36" NXR since 2009 and are still pleased. I've had my 30" model for going on three years now. Don't know much about the LP conversion kits except that Costco.com carries them as extras for (I think) around $50. We've had some postings here from folks who had the LP conversions done for them by their vendors and a couple of those folks weren't happy with the quality of the conversion work. Otherwise, the NXR seems to be favored more by the DIY crowd. Great for those who like those capabilities and have the ability and interest in doing their own maintenance and repairs and/or fiddling when and if needed....See MoreWolf vs Fisher & Paykel (AG range 30")
Comments (8)It is rarely a good idea to buy a single brand. Developers do that for their cookie cutter houses, as they usually get package deals. But for individual home owners, it makes more sense to buy to the strength of the individual brand; and few brands are good across the board. If anything, Wolf is probably on average one of the higher quality brands for a broader cross-section of different types of appliances. In fact, you are likely to get a much better fridge with Wolf/SubZero than you could get with any other brand. And in my experience, Miele would be one of the few other brands that I would say this about. Most of their appliances are good or excellent. They are somewhat overpriced outside of Europe though. On the other hand, if you are looking for a truly impressive all-gas range, then you can't go wrong with Bluestar. They make amazing gas ranges, especially if you pick their RNB open burner series. It's a very basic mechanical design that has only been updated minimally since the days of Julia Child (she cooked on a very similar Garland-branded stove). It takes some effort to set it up properly, but once that's done, you'll be hard-pressed to find a finer stove. As far as "keeping value", I am not sure what you mean. It's not as if three years from now you'll sell your used stove and buy a new one. Or do you mean, "will keep working for years with only minimal service". If so, look for appliances with few electronics and with industry-standard mechanical parts that can be fixed easily. Again, that would bring you to Bluestar. And for most of these higher-end brands, you can pick colors both for knobs and for the body of the appliance. It costs extra, but if red knobs are important to you, yes, you can get those....See More36” counter depth gas range? bertazzoni, fisher paykel, other..?
Comments (8)The ranges were redesigned in 2018 and the oven is completely different now. I'm not sure how relevant the older reviews are any more. See https://blog.designerappliances.com/new-bertazzoni-ranges/ for a review of the updated ranges. I noticed an error in the review, they said the Broiler is 15000 BTU, it's only 9000 BTU on the 30" & 48" and 11000 BTU on the 36". The review does mention a studier range base and legs. So maybe the "curling" has been fixed. I purchased the 30" Pro all gas range in November and am generally happy with it. I'm happy with the burners and the range is very easy to clean. The only item of concern is the temperature control for the oven seems to be imprecise, it's either lower or higher that the temperature selected. I've adjusted the temperature on the oven a bit to try to compensate for this issue. It now seems to align at 350, if you select 350 on the control the temperature will come up to 350 on the gauge. But otherwise the control is either lower or higher than what you select, that is select 450 on the control and the temperature on gauge will go above 500 or so. As long as I can trust the temperature gauge, I can always just adjust the temperature up or down. The temperature gauge is different than what is displayed on their website and I find it difficult to figure out what the temperature really is. I have this gauge below, notice the four lines between 250 & 350, yet there are five lines between 350 & 450. There is also a dot above 250 and 450, not sure what the dots mean. Maybe 450 is at the dot above the '4'? Since I don't bake, I don't really need a precise temperature, if I'm off by 20 degrees it shouldn't a big deal. The oven does seem to maintain the same temperature over time. The oven does seem to go below 250, maybe the low is around 220 and the high seems to be around 550 or so. It's kinda hard to really know with this gauge. I'd much rather have this temperature gauge, which is so easy to read:...See MoreInduction ranges - aga mercury (36”) vs Bertazonni vs fisher paykel
Comments (38)That’s a pity but definitely a sign of the times. I didn’t research it and the FP may be worth it. I did briefly look at the wolf 36 but I didn’t like the look Of the 2 knobs as opposed to the look of a whole array of knobs. Miele 36 didn’t have the bridge element that the individual cooktop had and service in my area is questionable. I looked at a few 30 inch ones but that didn’t work for me. What is Ilve’s situation? If they have one. Probably anything European will have the same delivery issues as Aga? What is the timeline for the Aga? I would honestly consider waiting for it, (if other options are pricey ). As the kitchen can be built around it and it slides in. And it is that wonderful....See MoreCindy Gilder
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