Boeing/Trump: Don't ground our unsafe planes

Swampy

Who doesn't ground the planes - which carry hundreds of people - when multiple accidents and reports of "losing control" are reported?

The Boeing CEO and Trump, that's who:

The head of Boeing reportedly made a personal call to President Donald Trump to vouch for the safety of the 737 Max 8 jets, two-thirds of which have been grounded globally in the wake of two fatal crashes of the aircraft in five months.

The European Union announced it was grounding the planes after the Ethiopian Airlines crash on Sunday that killed 157 people. The same aircraft operated by Indonesia’s Lion Air crashed in October 2018 killing 189.

And (there are reports of this worldwide):

Airline pilots on at least two U.S. flights have reported that an automated system seemed to cause their Boeing 737 Max planes to tilt down suddenly.

The pilots said that soon after engaging the autopilot on Boeing 737 Max 8 planes, the nose tilted down sharply. In both cases, they recovered quickly after disconnecting the autopilot.

As described by the pilots, however, the problem did not appear related to a new automated anti-stall system that is suspected of contributing to a deadly October crash in Indonesia.

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tryingtounderstand

What if these crashes occurred on USA soil? would these planes be grounded or not?

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how2girl

Probably not. This is from 2017, interesting

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/gop-leaders-court-ceos-at-boeing-elsewhere/

An excerpt...

Boeing in particular faces a delicate dance with Trump and congressional Republicans. The largest U.S. exporter and second-biggest U.S. defense contractor would likely gain from a tax overhaul and other elements of Republicans’ agenda.

At the same time, Boeing is waiting to close nearly $20 billion in commercial-jet orders to Iran, which Trump has accused of not holding up its end of a nuclear accord struck under the Obama administration. The company also wants to reopen the U.S. Export-Import Bank to help finance jet purchases for customers unable to tap conventional credit markets. Ryan, before he became speaker, had derided the Ex-Im Bank as corporate welfare.

Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg didn’t join fellow CEOs in taking a public stand against Trump last week. Instead, Boeing issued a statement of support for the “purpose and mission” of the manufacturing council as well as “equality and respect for all people.”

Boeing has emerged as a symbol of American manufacturing might this year — even while cutting nearly 7,000 jobs. Its stock has led the Dow Jones industrial average, posting a 53 percent gain this year through Wednesday’s close that trounces the likes of Apple and Microsoft. Trump even showed up at a Boeing plant in South Carolina to hail the public debut of the newest 787 Dreamliner, a marquee jet, in February.


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blfenton

The last time Boeing incurred trumps wrath their stock took a hit. Sounds like they're not prepared to do that again.

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Cookie8

Finally, Canada grounds this airplane.

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Current Resident(z4 WI)

OK, well lets let the free market decide then shall we? They usually state what plane when you buy a ticket, I think Ill just avoid all airlines that have Boeing in their fleet.... cause how do I know they dont have other problems with their planes that they are not taking responsibility for??

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miss lindsey (still misses Sophie)(8a)

Southwest is allowing anyone who doesn't want to fly on the Max 8 to transfer to a different flight for $0.

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Cookie8

In Canada, before the airplanes were grounded, the unions were even giving the staff the option to not work the 737 Max if they didn't feel safe.

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writersblock (9b/10a)(9b/10a)

The last time Boeing incurred trumps wrath their stock took a hit. Sounds like they're not prepared to do that again.


Maybe, but we tend to think of Boeing as a commercial aircraft company, but don't forget they are really the world's largest arms supplier. I would imagine that plays into this decision, too. I'm sure they can apply pressure themselves from their more profitable side.

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Cookie8

"Maybe, but we tend to think of Boeing as a commercial aircraft company, but don't forget they are really the world's largest arms supplier."

Also, can't forget how much in subsidies Boeing has received. Gotta protect that "investment".

There are also a few countries considering investment in this model. I guess Boeing needed protection for security of the sale.

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gyr_falcon(Sunset 23)
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bob_cville

Or how about:

We'll get you there or (you'll) die trying.

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