French Oak Floors ---- Stain test and dent pics
Joey Taylor
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Ugh! oak floor stain is not what I had hoped!
Comments (19)Well, went home last night hoping to see the floors looking great. They are better but not great. Most of the footprints are out. The area where he sanded again is better. Now, the whole floor is considerably darker than what I had planned and there are some very dark gummy looking spots. Of course they are 1/2 way across the room so I can't get to them. Today the contractor is coming back and he says he is going to use a super fine grit sandpaper and sand the floor lightly again--especially in the areas that are too dark. Then wait for my approval...he is hoping to poly today. I'm really just sick over the floors. The contractor is trying super hard. He wants to make it right. He is a general contractor who has done some floors but it is not his specialty. The dining room floor which he refinished looks pretty good. The stain is much more even and no weird footprints or dark spots. I think we do have a case of old wood vs new but also a case of an less experienced floor guy who didn't know what to do with the new wood to make it work. I'm not sure that even if I ask him to resand it entirely down to bare wood and start over that the result would be what I want. At this point, I'm not sure what to do other than let him finish and hope it looks better when it is all done and everything is in it. My plan was to redo the floors in my living room this summer. Hubby is suggesting that if the kitchen/dining room floors don't suit me that we wait until 2011 and refinish the entire first floor...including the kitchen and dining room we just did with a person who only does floors. To stop right now and get a flooring guy in here will probably delay moving back into the kitchen by at least a few more weeks.... I'm so annoyed that I chose poorly. The contractor has done a good job on everything else and he is very easy to communicate with. He's just not as skilled as we needed on floors. I really wish they just would have turned out great....See MoreHelp! Red Oak Floors & Loba 2k Invisible- stain problems :/
Comments (9)I have to agree that these were preexisting but almost invisible because of the sanding. The top pic looks like "old finish" was left in place. Considering how thin your boards are and how old they are, this is not unexpected. And to be clear, old floors can have 80 years worth of contamination (ie. wax, shoe polish, Pledge, Murphy's Oil soap, soap, hairspray, hair dye, etc) on them. These products can, and will, get past the original finish and contaminate the wood. Just like old urine stains pushing all the way through a board (the dark gray stain is most like an old urine stain...cause that's what they look like after many years), these contaminants can go several millimeters into the wood. Especially things like cooking oil, Murphy's Oil soap (anything oil based really) or even melted wax from a candle. After sanding, you wouldn't have 'seen' these things. But a quick swish of a slightly damp mop (make it wet to give some depth of colour) and all of these things would have been evident within moments of the water touching the wood. And that's why you can see them now. The clear coat is like water hitting the wood. It gives the colours depth...and definition. But unlike water, the finish is permanent. At this point, I would keep going with your plan = 2 more coats of Loba 2K Invisible. And You will want to hurry. To get a good 'stick' the next coat should be put down within 24 hours of the previous...or else the flooring guy has to abrade the floor again to get a mechanical grip rather than a chemical stick. Keep going. Know that you are getting 20 years more out of these floors that probably should have given up the ghost 20 years ago. That means you are extending the life by 40 years. For an old hardwood floor, that's impressive....See MoreD'Vine French Oak flooring?
Comments (14)Interesting...the "Country" grade for Columbia states the knots are to be no bigger than 1.75 inches in size. Which means, had the planks with really big knots been culled, you would have received a full refund/replacement for each board that had a knot bigger than advertised. Unfortunately, in the flooring business "A floor laid is a floor paid." In other words, once it is installed there is no recourse. And I'm even sorrier to tell you that painter's tape is aggressive enough to pull up even the toughest polyurethane finish. For that reason, the blue tape is not something that should be used with floors. If anything, the yellow "sensitive surface" tape is what can be used. And even then it MUST BE removed every day...because any adhesive left long enough can pull up polyurethane. Sadly, your floor has one of the least desireable finishes: urethane acrylic. I'm not fond of it's bigger/better brother polyacrylic...I can only guess the urethane (cheaper than polyurethane) acrylic combination is less than exciting. I know you are horribly disappointed - and you should be - but there are some discussions that need to be had with the installers and the people who installed the product without knowing the specifications. I don't know who that is...but someone who was overseeing the install *should (ahem...this is rare but it is still part of the job of foreman) have known the quality of the product and the specifications. If the foreman/GC knew the knots were only supposed to be 1.75 inches in size, s/he would have known to stop work IMMEDIATELY, call the supplier/store AND THEN call you. As for the missing finish...this is not an issue with the store or the manufacturer...this is an installer issue. Whomsoever said "Ok" to blue painter's tape to be: A. Used on a polyurethane/urethane floor, and B. Allowed to sit for several days is the person who is responsible for dealing with the replacement of those planks. This is going to be a very tough lesson for someone to learn. Again, I am really sorry you went through this. It should not be like this...but it is sometimes. To get a greater sense of the quality of this product, feel free to peruse their installation/warranty paper. It is riddled with spelling and grammatical errors (in English...someone else will have to check the Spanish). https://static1.squarespace.com/static/59a8391fe3df28057d0cc72b/t/5de97cfe9b7dad66621a3762/1575582984071/D%27Vine+Eng+Installations-1204.3.pdf Even in the installation instructions it says: Stop and check everything is OK and the owner likes what is in the boxes. It says it at the top in the red box that takes up 1/4 of a page....See MoreCan you mix woods? Maple kitchen with white French oak floors?
Comments (4)I have french white oak floors w/walnut shelving (you can't really see it in this pic, it's off to the left) walnut around the vent hood and the window over the sink, and this walnut console and chair....See MoreJoey Taylor
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