LVP/EVP Waterproof Flooring
Jake Taylor
5 years ago
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Clarify waterproof LVP = no glue, right?
Comments (5)The "no glue" is correct. The click-together products are EASILY damaged. The lock system gets mangled if you need to pull them up. If you need to remove them, you are looking at 25% - 50% waste due to damaged lock systems. There are systems called "loose lay" where only the PERIMETER of the floor is glued and then the rest of the planks are installed TIGHT to the glued planks. These floors are the easiest to deal with when it comes to flooding conditions. And to be clear, the amount of effort to "rescue" a vinyl floor that has been soaked is quite high. It isn't the concrete underneath that takes all the work, it is the planks THEMSELVES. In essence, you need to pull up the planks VERY QUICKLY after the water arrives (ie. with 3 inches of water on them, you need to reach down into said water and remove the planks). Then you have to get the planks to a bathtub that you have filled with clean water with a hint of bleach (kills the bacteria/infectious materials in the water...like dysentery) and then you dry them off (towel dry). Once you have all the planks washed and dried, you then need to set them in the SUN for a day. As in, on your lawn with the sun beaming down. After 6-8 hours, you flip them over and let the other side bask in the UV rays. Now that the planks are "healthy" once again (no mold, mildew, bacteria or infectious diseases) you can then store them properly (over a smooth, flat, dry surface) until you are able to reinstall the product. As you can see, very FEW clients are able to complete that extensive list to salvage a damaged vinyl floor. And just for fun, vinyl planks do NOT like being exposed to hot sun light in front of windows. If your planks can get wet during a hurricane, it is possible they will be exposed to HIGH temperatures in front of glass windows. The high temperatures and UV exposure (over years) is MORE damaging than the water intrusion from a hurricane. Porcelain tiles are you best option....See MoreWaterproof underlayment for LVP over concrete basement floor
Comments (7)If you are concerned about the possibility of mold/mildew, then the most effective thing to do is fix the concrete so that it doesn't have a problem. You could spend $2-$4/sf on materials (such as DriCore) only to have a damp slab underneath. Which means the potential for mold is STILL THERE. Or you can fix the problem at its source: seal the entire slab properly. That means shot blasting, etc. Which isn't much more money per square foot than the $4/sf for the EXPENSIVE DriCore. And if you read DriCore's website, they will require a 6mil vapour barrier UNDERNEATH their panels if the hydrostatic pressure is higher than 'x' lbs/1000sf. That's for the 'regular' DriCore. To get away from this requirement you have to use the HIGH PRICED foam panels. And then you have to purchase OSB/Plywood to go over top of the foam panels....etc. Industry Standard means just that. The industry (flooring) recognises that slabs almost always contain moisture. The control of that moisture is up to the homeowner...but the flooring professional can take steps to ensure the product THEY are installing will have the best chance of being successful in that space. That means stopping moisture from 'hitting' or reaching the floor above. What happens underneath the vapour barrier is up to the homeowner to deal with...because the homeowner is ultimately responsible for his/her cement slab. The professional has done his/her job by using the industry's regularly used product such as 6mil poly sheeting. Again, if mold/mildew are your concern (and it should be) then the 'fix' is not going to be some panels sitting 1/2" higher than the concrete. The fix is going to be the professional sealing of the slab. Shot blasting is a b!tch! The epoxy sealants are a b!tch to work with. The primer is noxious and the microtopping is a nightmare. Which is why it is best to leave the sealing of slabs to the professionals....See MoreImproper install of EVP flooring
Comments (5)As millworkman just stated, they've voided every single warranty item on the list. 1. Vinyl planks do NOT use underpad. Vinyl is NOT laminate. Laminate floating floor underpad (such as quiet walk) is NOT built for vinyl and vinyl is not built for these underpads. This ONE ITEM alone means the WHOLE THING must come up. The rest of the issues are moot. Absolutely no way around it. The Quietwalk means they need to pull up the whole floor. I tell clients to ASSUME their vinyl will NOT allow underpad unless SPECIFICALLY STATED by the manufacturer. That means 98% of vinyl floors do NOT allow underpad. The rest of them SPECIFICALLY state the TYPE of underpad allowed. None of those vinyl floors that I know of (that allow underpad) allow the fibre based products like Quietwalk. None. Congratulations. You do not have to worry about cleaning this floor. You are entitled to a brand new one. And ask the GC why they did not prepare your subfloor if there were cracks in the pavement. And then ask how much you PAID for subfloor preparation. On an old slab with cracks this item should be $2-$4/sf. Please send us a link to your vinyl product. I will show you where it says/does NOT say 'underpad'. You can then print off that page and use it to force the GC to provide you with a new floor (you might want to hire this out to a professional flooring installer...just get the product delivered to the house)....See MoreFlooring (LVP/Waterproof Laminate) Suggestions Needed
Comments (6)I think your choices lend nicely to a Transitional look. That's when you take traditional looking products but modernize them for today's style. A gray/white kitchen would be the modern part. A 'natural' wood look product could add the 'traditional' part. Adding a wood-tone to a modernized kitchen is what offers the 'Transitional' feel to a space. And the light yellow/gold tones of wood add SUNLIGHT and WARMTH from the floor. Yep. The flooring will bounce a little bit of warm lighting (ahem...sunlight is yellow) into the space. That snick of yellow adds cheerfulness to an otherwise dull gray/black/white monochromatic world. If you are in a climate that sees all 4 seasons or have plenty of cloudy/gray days (aka Seattle and Vancouver) then a cheerful floor colour REALLY helps with mental health (nope....not kidding on that one)....See MoreJamie Pace
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