At least 5 dead in bank shooting in Florida...

Chi

A gunman who barricaded himself in a SunTrust Bank in Florida killed at least five people in the branch on Wednesday, Sebring Police Chief Karl Hoglund said.


The suspect called authorities to say he had entered the bank in Sebring, about 85 miles south of Orlando, and began shooting, according to Hoglund. Authorities identified the suspect as 21-year-old Sebring resident Zephen Xaver, who is in custody.


"We've suffered significant loss at the hands of a senseless criminal doing a senseless crime," Hoglund said.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/23/us/sebring-florida-bank-incident/index.html


I found a Facebook profile of a Zephen Xaver from Sebring. I won't post it here in the small chance it's not the same person, but he looks like the typical American mass shooter.

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mr1010

Yes he looks like a misfit, originally from Indiana according to an old FB from 2015.

Guess he was looking for his 15 min. of fame. Put him in general population

in jail and let the other prisoners take care of him.

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elvis

His photo (a mug shot) reveals an odd-looking character. Must be a nutcase.

This is terrible news.

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steve2416

Mr1010, he would probably do fine in gen pop, maybe even pick up a couple of admirers. The inmates are going to keep their heads down and stay out of trouble. If they do good time they gain points and even lifers can have their lives improve. I know a little about that because I worked in a Prison for seven years.

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sunflower_petal(5a)

I haven't seen a picture but if elvis calls him a nutcase then he must be a white male.

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elvis

Actually, it's the eyebrows.

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Rina

A perpetrator's sanity should be determined by a court with the help of psychiatric professionals. To conclude that he's a nutcase at this stage -- with no evidence to that effect -- is to tend to absolve him of moral responsibility, which I don't think is right.

Yet again, I grieve for the victims.

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Maddie AtHome

Rina, it always goes like this:

-- Black perpetrator = THUG!

-- Muslim/other non-christian perpetrator = TERRORIST!

-- Non-Conservative perpetrator = TERRORIST!

-- White and/or Conservative perpetrator = Oh well poor thing must be mentally ill.

What is cause and what is effect with the latter--the jury is still out on this.


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momj47(7A)

Horrible, horrible tragedy

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josephene_gw

What, no illegal aliens involved?

yes horrible mom.

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tony jelly

It is weird that police fear for their lives when they see an unarmed black man, so shoot him just in case, whereas an armed white man who has just killed a bunch of people can somehow be persuaded to come quietly.

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batyabeth

"an odd-looking character. Must be a nutcase."

My goodness elvis. Judge a book by its cover much? Diagnose mental illness by just looking?

And maddie hit it spot on.

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miss lindsey (still misses Sophie)(8a)

Am I giving too much benefit of the doubt in that I read elvis's comment as sarcasm?

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Lily613

I heard about it and then found nothing on the news sites . I then realized it takes more than five dead to create headlines. 15 is a better number or unless a religious group is gunned down like the Pittsburgh massacre, it's ho-hum. No word from tRump. But if it was an illegal, the right would have smoke coming from their noses.

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mrskjun(9)

It seems his motive was to kill an ex girlfriend?

Lily, it is being discussed here, and he is an American citizen, we didn't have to import him to kill anyone, and it's still terrible and sickening.

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Embothrium(Sunset Climate Zone 5, USDA Hardiness Zone 8)

>we didn't have to import him to kill anyone<

What? But don't we keep being told people coming in from south of the border are all a threat?

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mr1010

LE says today they still have no motive. All five were women shot execution style,

all were found face down in the bank lobby with bullet holes in back of heads and

upper torsos. 4 were bank employees, one was a customer.

His ex-girlfriend in Indiana says he was always angry and talked about guns and killing people. He was expelled in High school for wanting to shoot up his school

because of a dream he had. Former students at the school says he had poor self image and seemed depressed.

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Chi

How does such a person get his hands on a gun? Surely getting expelled for threatening to shoot up a school should be a red flag???

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mrskjun(9)

I would imagine the same way addicts are able to obtain illegal drugs, criminals are able to obtain illegal guns.

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dandyfopp

Here is how to get a gun in America.

Go to a a person or shop who sells guns and buy one.

It case anyone is surprised, the shooter is a fan of Milo, Alex Jones and of course, Donnie.

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jn3344

Just another red-blooded American exercising his 2A freedumbs.

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GOD

No outrage from the right.. he's a white male

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Chi

Do we know if it was an illegal gun yet? His girlfriend said he bought a gun last week. Most mass shooters buy their guns legally.

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chase_gw

What's with Florida?

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alexrander

He must have made it through Trump's wall, or come by boat? If only we had a wall none of this would have happened.

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tony jelly

Now THAT is sarcasm.

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elvis

Rina, it always goes like this:

-- Black perpetrator = THUG!

-- Muslim/other non-christian perpetrator = TERRORIST!

-- Non-Conservative perpetrator = TERRORIST!

-- White and/or Conservative perpetrator = Oh well poor thing must be mentally ill.

Everyone is all those categories had to be mentally ill to do this.



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alexrander

Lots of mentally ill people don't kill. It takes easy access to guns to allow this to happen.

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tony jelly

talking of mentally ill. only mentally ill people kill with a gun, is it? Nothing to do with the gun then?

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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

The good old USA, the only "advanced" country in the world to aid and abet in this sort of insanity. We should be so proud of our record of hundreds and thousands of people being mowed down by guns each and every year, where other countries might have had 5 or 10 fatalities during the same period of time. Who in his right mind would condone this sort of bloodshed and misery? It's beyond belief.

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elvis

Who in his right mind would condone this sort of bloodshed and misery?

Tell us who has condoned it, Ingrid.

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