If Trump Truly Is An "Operative For Russia"

Becca Reese

Then Mueller is completely incompetent.

If Trump truly is an operative for Russia, he should have been yanked out of office by now, and not allowed to damage the country for one more second. There's no time to wait and Mueller is incompetent if it's taking him this long to find evidence. Trump is entering his 3rd year as President and if Mueller hasn't uncovered that fact and made his case, he should be fired immediately.

At this point, we know Mueller has taken 2 years and millions of dollars, and it's been revealed that the FBI investigated this very issue, after Trump fired Comey.


There's no there there.

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Chi

It's actually moving very fast compared to other historical special investigations, when counting by number of indictments and guilty pleas per week.


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chase_gw

I actually don't think Trump is a direct operative of Russia. I' m not even sure he was directly involved in any conspiracy to collude with Russia.

However, I do believe his campaign was actively colluding wth Russia and I am more and more convinced that either Putin has something on him or he is in someway beholding to Russia.

There is way too much there there not to be some there there, there.

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Becca Reese

chase, who besides Manafort colluded with Russia? Further, Manafort was Trump's campaign chairman for 2 months.

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patriciae_gw(07)

It takes time apparently to make a case whether or not a person knowingly conspired. It is the knowing what you are doing part that makes all the difference from what I read. I can see why Chase has her doubts that Trump fits that definition. He seems to be easily led. When he says something like his explanation of why he fired Comey, is he capable of understanding the implications of what he has just said? Was it childlike excitement of knowing something important that made him share Israeli intel or did he deliver information as required? It is frustrating. Now you would think that Congress would do its job and act as that leg of the stool that we all sit on to make sure we don't all end up on the ground but so far they have been ignoring the danger. That is where I direct my ire. The judiciary has been doing its part to block illegal acts.

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chase_gw

Who besides Manafort ? Really ? You aren't paying attention.

Flynn and Don Jr, the coffee boy whose name escapes me to start with ......and no doubt we will soon hear that Stone was up to his ears in it too.


.....and Manafort was involved directly in the campaign for 5 months...two months of which he was chairman but he was on the campaign for 5 months....and he was colluding with Russia !

That IS the Trump campaign colluding wth Russia...there doesn' t have to be a " besides" ......the campaign chairman will do !!!! That's a, there there....


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Becca Reese

Flynn? OMG.

Mueller's investigation IS the "insurance policy" and it's purpose is to deflect and distract from the real collusion, which was the DNC and Hillary with Russia, Obama's malfeasance before the FISA court, unmasking and using government power for political ends.

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chase_gw

You got some facts to back that up ? Facts....not theories and opinions. Heaven knows the endless Republican investigations found nada. So interested in your facts.

...and yes Flynn !!!!! If that wasn't collusion I don't know what is !

ETA ...add Wray, Rosenstein and Whittaker are all in on the " insurance policy" . Have I got that right?

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Becca Reese

You do know Flynn pleaded guilty to lying, right?

There is proof of every single allegation I made, chase. This is well documented.

Can't wait for the IG report.

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chase_gw

Lying about what Becca ? He didn't lie about his age....

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chase_gw

If there is proof...show me. Show me proof of " Obama's malfeasance before the FISA court, unmasking and using government power for political ends."

Why didn't Nunes publish the " proof" ? Why did Gowdy, of all people, say he could see no wrong doing? Got some answers?

ETA Hope for your sake there is more to it than his first report....but I' m expecting about the same

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chijim

ecca Reese

chase, who besides Manafort colluded with Russia? Further, Manafort was Trump's campaign chairman for 2 months.

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Pls tell me why this change occurred


In a July 31 interview on NBC's "Meet the Press,
Manafort was asked about changes that were made to the Republican Party
platform in the committee meetings that were held before the
convention. One change that drew some attention was the softening of
language on how the Republican Party treated arms deals with Ukraine and
Russia, though Manafort later denied any involvement.

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gyr_falcon(Sunset 23)

The evidence has been visible for years, and yet the trump supporters have done nothing but support the obstruction of justice. What should we do with all of these completely incompetent citizens?

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elvis

Chase, when it comes to Bob Mueller, you are a victim of the Pollyanna Principle! I mean that in the nicest way. ;D

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chase_gw

I am a lot of things but I am no Pollyanna.........believe what you want. The truth will out , hopefully sooner rather than later.

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althea_gw

No, Trump is not an operative for Russia. Russians aren't that stupid.

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Becca Reese

Chase, when it comes to Bob Mueller, you are a victim of the Pollyanna Principle! I mean that in the nicest way. ;D

elvis, just wait until Mueller doesn't deliver Trump's head on a platter. He will be enemy #1.

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jerzeegirl(9b)

I don't think he's an operative either. But I do think that he might be compromised by Russia for something that he did.

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chase_gw

Becca and Elvis, You need to go back and read what I posted. I don't think that Trump is directly involved in conspiracy to collude.

So Becca what was it Flynn lied about?

And.....

Show me proof of " Obama's malfeasance before the FISA court, unmasking and using government power for political ends."

Also be interested in your explanation of why Nunes and Gowdy found nothing to support your allegations .




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catticusmockingbird

Who besides Manafort ? Really ? You aren't paying attention.


No kidding.

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llucy

That video catticusmockingbird...Good God. It's all right there.

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

Sheesh, it's been known for years that Trump is unable to obtain credit from US financial institutions, and that Deutschebank (known for money laundering) and Russian oligarchs (known for money laundering) are Trump's $$$$ sources.

None so blind as those who willfully will not see.


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Becca Reese

Shaun King?

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

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Pidge_

It's also known in New York and Philly that getting a "contract" for a Trump building project is close to a kiss of death. Want to get stiffed for money due one? Sign that contract and wait for the hammer to hit you.

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Becca Reese

Shaun King is the Alex Jones of the FLW. Except worse. The man lies, slanders and libels ALL THE TIME!

Most recently, he propagated the LIE that a white man shot a little black girl.

The man is a JOKE.

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Becca Reese

Got any proof of that, Pidge?

Tell us a few Philly examples, why don't you.

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

As more evidence comes to light on Team Trump, including Trump himself, and their crimes (and lies), loyal supporters will face the daunting task of discrediting more and more sources -- foreign and domestic. They'll be busy in 2019.

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Pidge_

Becca, I know that my late husband, who was a marble/granite/slate subcontractor, would never bid on a Trump project because he knew that he either would not be paid at all or would be so dragged through all kinds of litigation to get even part of the contract money due him..

Unfortunately, at this late date I cannot recall the name of another subcontractor who was literally put of business by Trump's refusal to pay him. You will surely quarrel with me that that makes my assertion questionable.

But you would be wrong. I don't know anyone in the local building business who thinks that bidding on a Trump project is anything but a terrible idea.


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catticusmockingbird

Shaun King is the Alex Jones of the FLW. Except worse. The man lies, slanders and libels ALL THE TIME!


It's all Trump. Listen for yourself, if you dare.

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

Some have placed the Trump-Putin alliance as being formed in 2013, the date of the above linked video with Trump praising Putin.

On the other hand, there are records of other Trump comments contradicting his acquaintance with Putin, whether he has actually physically met the man, real estate ventures in Russia.

DJT's comments on his relationship with Putin change according to the context in which they appear -- advantageous to Trump, Putin's a great friend. DJT will pivot on a dime . . . as long as the dime ends up in his pocket.

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More important are Trump's private meetings Putin. Private in the sense that there is no official transcript of their conversations -- or at least no US-produced transcript.

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Chi

I bet there are recordings. Trump sounded like a nut when he accused Obama of bugging his microwave but it wouldn't surprise me if our intelligence agencies were listening in.

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momj47(7A)

Shaun King is the Alex Jones of the FLW. Except worse. The man lies, slanders and libels ALL THE TIME!

And you know this because you listent to Alex Jones all the time, I guess

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Annie Deighnaugh

...it's purpose is to deflect and distract from the real collusion, which was the DNC and Hillary with Russia...

This makes no sense on its face...we have all this evidence that russia was interfering to support trump against hillary...we have evidence of over 90 contacts between trump & co and russian operatives....we have millions of rubles donated to the gop via the nra...and putin even said he wanted trump as pres. And considering the FBI leadership was full of republicans and even comey himself, wittingly or not, made sure hillary lost. We even have fbi agents who knew that trump was under investigation before the election who easily could've spilled the beans on him...like they did on hillary...but they never did. So how on earth can you say they all conspired to get hillary elected...and then failed? It makes no sense.

Moreover, as I've pointed out before, if the dnc was going to generate lies about trump/russia, why on earth would they *pay* for that info? It's far cheaper just to make stuff up out of whole cloth...like obama is a muslim with a phoney birth certificate, or that hillary is running a child porn ring out of a pizza parlor. It makes no sense.

Stop hawking mirages and wake up to reality.

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Ziemia(6a)

OP: we know Mueller has taken 2 years

Correction needed - Mueller has not been at this work for 2 years.

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Ziemia(6a)

OP: he [Trump] should have been yanked out of office by now, and not allowed to damage the country for one more second.

Well, the "yanking" process starts in the House and moves into the Senate. There is no other way. (Well, the 25th Amendment.. which takes the VP and Cabinet to take action.) The GOP are desperate to have the president - any president so here we are.


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Becca Reese

Chi I bet there are recordings.

The recordings are in Jimmy Hoffa's vault along with the pee pee tape.


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Kathy

Trump did all the talking in the video. He cooked his own goose. He thinks Putin is so great and now Putin is eating his lunch.

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Kathy

Mueller was appointed in May 2017 and encompasses the preliminary or the counter-intelligence investigation the FBI did on Trump. He has a way to go for 2 years. Considering the indictments and court cases so far I think it is moving rather quickly.

It does seem Mueller is allowing more information to come out especially with Cohen’s upcoming testimony. I have no doubt we will soon know whether Trump is actively working against US and is colluding with Putin or if he is compromised by Putin. He wouldn’t be the first President targeted by Russia.

People who are familiar with counterintelligence investigations say it isn’t unusual there has been no action yet even if Trump is guilty. It may not be something that goes to court as most cases but one that will go through the intelligence services.

Imho, Trump is escalating dismantling our democracy more everyday. The latest ploy of shutting down the government which is also the largest employer in the US will have severe consequences on the economy if it continues.





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cait1

I don't think that Trump is directly involved in conspiracy to collude.

There is no such crime called 'collusion'. Therefore, there is no crime to investigate. Why can't you understand that?

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chase_gw

Poorly worded........conspiracy is the crime.

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Annie Deighnaugh

There is no such crime called 'collusion'. Therefore, there is no crime to investigate. Why can't you understand that?

I don't see a specific crime called graft either. So what. It's a colloquial term that's understood to encompass a number of legally defined crimes including bribery, receiving personal favors, etc. One may not be charged with a crime of "graft" but that doesn't mean it isn't a valid overarching term to use in the nonlegal realm when describing multiple forms criminal activity.

When one is colluding with a foreign hostile government, there may be a number of crimes committed including conspiracy, and theft and campaign finance violations and money laundering. While one might not be charged with "collusion" it is a valid overarching term in the nonlegal realm to cover any number of illegal activities, the specifics with which one might be charged such as conspiracy against the United States or espionage.

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jillinnj

Notice the title of the thread..."operative for russia"

Someone is moving the goal posts. Now if Mueller doesn't prove that Trump is an "operative for russia", then he didn't do anything wrong.

Must be hard to live a life of having to continuously move the goal posts to save face.

But, keep telling yourself this fairy tale so you can sleep at night: There's no there there.

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Ziemia(6a)

Still no clarity on these bizarre yet seemingly key parts of the OP...

OP: we know Mueller has taken 2 years

OP: he [Trump] should have been yanked out of office by now, and not allowed to damage the country for one more second.

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Ziemia(6a)

Elvis, maybe you can explain "...we know Mueller has taken 2 years..."

Because most know it hasn't been two years.

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adoptedbyhounds

"It takes time apparently to make a case whether or not a person knowingly conspired."

Yes, much to the surprise of President Trump's critics, who naively expected to undo the election.

Turns out our system and our president are far tougher than the corruptocrats who conspired against him...and against every American who voted for him.

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Ziemia(6a)

Most (maybe nearly all) Americans did not wish or hope to undo the 2016 election.

(And even though most voted not-for Trump.)

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elvis

Ziemia(6a)

Elvis, maybe you can explain "...we know Mueller has taken 2 years..."

Because most know it hasn't been two years.

Is this a trick question? Why should I explain that?

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Ziemia(6a)

elvis, because you often work to correct comments.

And that is one not getting corrected by team Trump.

PS: seeing as it is a key part of the OP here

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

Mueller runs a tight ship so the public has little information on what the special counsel knows other than what we learn from indictments. And there have been plenty of indictments.

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jillinnj

Truth, Nancy. Seeing that as Trump being tough is just bizarre.

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chase_gw

Heard a great comment from Carl Bernstein this AM he was talking about Trump having been a great help to Putin in destabilizing America.

He said " Trump was a "witting, unwitting or half-witting pawn" to Russia's destabilizing goals"

I love it !!!!!








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Kathy

Definitely destabilizing more every day, so I doubt it is unwitting.

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