I have lotsa stripey roses in my 9b garden. I get temps in the triple digits off and on throughout the summer. GEORGE BURNS does really well. Rarely fries, altho might be cuz he's in a spot that gets some random shade throughout the day. He stays pretty small. Maybe like 3ftx3ft at the most. This was yesterday. Been in the 90s. This morning another bloom. I love it when the stripeys do this random look where it's mostly one color and just a few smatterings of stripes. And with GEORGE, sometimes he's more yellow than this. Right now he's in the red mode. Here he is back in April in the yellow mode. CAMILLE PISSARRO also stays rather small, maybe 2.5ftx2.5ft. Now she's in a bit more shade than GEORGE, and she doesn't repeat quite as well. Could be the shady factor. She blows a lot faster too. EDGAR DEGAS does kinda the same thing as GB. More yellow in the cooler weather, and redder in the warmer. This was in April. Here he is this morning. He also has fewer petals in the heat. He's still in a pot, waiting to get in the next bed. So far, he's stayed small like the others. Don't know if you like the pink and yellow combo, but CLAUDE MONET is one of my favorites. He just got planted in the ground a few months ago. So far, he's staying really low.... like barely 2ftx2ft. But that could always change now that he's getting happy! I just got MAURICE UTRILLO from Ludwigs a few months ago. They call him ARTISTA PANAROSA. He just got in the last bed and is still pretty small, but doing well. This was 4days ago: And this was the first bloom after he arrived in late March: As for ORANGES 'N' LEMONS... if you don't like orange, then you don't want it. And it grows very tall.. almost 5ft and repeat bloom isn't all that great. It's in full sun all day. And you probably wouldn't like ALFRED SISLEY or GRIMALDI either. They are even more orange then O'N'L.

bump this thread up. I'm looking for info. on Brocelliande as to the scent, and how long it will survive zone 5 winter as own-root. Thank you. Neil Diamond is VERY WIMPY as own-root in zone 5, gave a few blooms per tiny bush, then died after a few zone 5 winters. In contrast, my neighbor had a very vigorous Rock & roll (grafted-on-Dr.Huey) that gave prettier blooms plus nicer scent than Neil Diamond. How's Rock & roll vigor as own-root? Thank you. Rock & Roll scent is way better than Neil Diamond (fleeting scent that's gone fast in vase) & very tiny as own-root, see below in my zone 5 garden:

That Gypsy Soul looks very similar. I went out and measured my blooms. I do have a couple three inch ones but mostly two. We are still in the 80's here but even in the cooler weather I don't see big blooms. I love the form. It's a ruffly fluffy rose, not high centered. It shades from very dark red to clear red. It does not turn orange or purple as it ages. The blossoms tend to fry in high heat.

Flower, I went there to look for Boleros. Vole killed the two I bought last year. Have to check out Walmart.. I like to have a few more. I am going to plant Marc Chagall in full sun. I have a huge vole problem here in NY, I lost a lot of roses this past winter, I thought I lost around 30-40 at first, now I keep finding more dead ones while putting wood chips in the garden. I must have an army of voles in my garden. It started a couple years ago, this year is the worst. I have to do something to get rid of this problem. Is Marc Chagall a tender rose? Not planting anymore roses in this garden, getting ready to move. All new roses are in pots. Most of them will be in PA for safety. Dave, I bought all 7 Marc Chagall I found. I think they'd make a nice group of landscaping roses. I am going to HD to check out too. I like Maurice Utrillo , La Petit Prince too. This is bad, we are all rose shopaholics. Lol Did you guys ever watch Confessions of a Shopaholic? Maybe we should start a thread-Confessions of a Rose Shopaholic! :-)