Trump and Jim Acosta Visit The Texas Border And Confirm A Few Things

Becca Reese

That many who are apprehended trying to cross are not from South America or Mexico. In McAllen, Texas, a border official told Trump that just yesterday, there were over 400 apprehensions and 133 of them were from countries other than Mexico and South America: Pakistan, India, Romania, China, Ecuador, Nicaragua among many other countries form around the world are where these people originate from and wind up at our border.

The officer implored Trump for more fencing. Where his sector has no fencing, over 90% of the traffic occurs in those areas. In the area where there is fencing, 6% of the traffic occurs.


Democrats continue to look even more foolish as Trump goes to the source for first-hand information and experience. Denial is simply disingenuous at this point.

(source: live reporting from McAllen, Texas)


In other news, CNN's Jim Acosta reported from McAllen, TX today and confirmed that steel slats work as a border. Yes, Jimbo, there was no "crisis" at the very tall, steel fence you stood at, or around the concertina-wire fencing you posted, so that residents on the other side can live in relative peace and safety.

That's the whole point, sport.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/424785-acosta-mocked-for-border-reporting-exactly-walls-work




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sunflower_petal(5a)

Trump and his administration have so little credibility left that I'm afraid I don't even listen much anymore. SAD.

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Becca Reese

sunflower_petal(5a)

Trump and his administration have so little credibility left that I'm afraid I don't even listen much anymore. SAD.

If you'll notice, this wasn't Trump's words or reporting. This was straight from the McAllen Texas border official with statistics which don't lie, or have any political affiliation.

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Joaniepoanie

How come another report showed the steel slats prototype easily sawed in half? With a saw from Home Depot.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/dhs-test-cut-right-through-trumps-border-wall-steel-slats-with-a-saw-report

I don't recall any Dem claiming that only South Americans and Mexicans were crossing. Incidentally, Ecuador is in South America, Nicaragua is in Central America.....there is a difference you know.

And I heard a report (I think msnbc) that Mc Allen Tx is one of the safest cities in the US...7th I believe. Beto lives in El Paso and says there is no problem.

Did you really expect Trump to just randomly talk to agents? Of course not, he was only going to talk to ones who agreed with him.

Yes, denial is disingenuous at this point.



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adoptedbyhounds

"How come another report showed the steel slats prototype easily sawed in half? With a saw from Home Depot."

Because by building prototypes and testing them FIRST, engineers learn where they need to make design changes, or changes in materials. It's all good.

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catticusmockingbird

Joanie, they prefer staged to reality. What a strange world they live in.

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GOD

"CNN's Jim Acosta reported from McAllen, TX today and confirmed that steel slats work as a border. "


This line doesn't appear anywhere in the article Becca Linked.

S/he made it up but presented it as "news", as s/he freely interprets many of the "articles" s/he posts and then presents it as news.


Certainly a violation of the TOS, unethical and it smells of desperation.



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Chi

Where his sector has no fencing, over 90% of the traffic occurs in those areas. In the area where there is fencing, 6% of the traffic occurs.

Well, of course. Who is going to try to enter where there's a wall if there's also a place without a wall a little further down? And if the entire thing was walled, they would just figure out another way. This illustrates that these immigrants adapt to our security measures and find workarounds.

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catticusmockingbird

"Just to give you a sense, as to what the border is like here...there are some of the steel slats that you hear the President talking about."


@Acosta, from the border in TX, pointing out slats and "chainlink fencing, that you might have in your backyard."

"One of the safest cities in the country."

VIDEO: https://twitter.com/CNNnewsroom/status/1083463583109853184

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Joaniepoanie

Well, what genius engineers were hired that didn't already know you could saw through steel? Sounds like Trump designed the wall.

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Becca Reese

Because by building prototypes and testing them FIRST, engineers learn
where they need to make design changes, or changes in materials. It's
all good.

Further, no structure being proposed will be totally fail safe. That's not the point (and they know this). The purpose is deterrence.

Plus, I wonder if the walls will have power outlets handy to plug in those buzz saws. Could be because yano, there will be ladder stored all around.

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Becca Reese

Did you really expect Trump to just randomly talk to agents? Of course
not, he was only going to talk to ones who agreed with him.

Yet, that's exactly what happened. Unless you want to call the border officer a liar.

Even if the talking points were arranged, those inconvenient facts don't change.

You're denial is rather odious at this point.

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maddielee

Was anything said about the fact that drones can quietly and quickly pick up a person and lift that person over a wall? In a few years there will be more of them being able to do so. A coyote will be able to make good money.

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roxanna7

^^^^Lily, she is, as far as I am concerned. SOB, baby!,

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Joaniepoanie

Becca

"You're denial is rather odious at this point."

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Back at ya!

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Joaniepoanie

Becca

"Plus, I wonder if the walls will have power outlets handy to plug in those buzz saws. Could be because yano, there will be ladder stored all around."

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Ann

Good one, Sarah Sanders!

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catticusmockingbird


Good one, Sarah Sanders!

She's lying. No surprise you support that.

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mrskjun(9)

btw, how many of you thought those border agents were lying today?

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llucy

Were the border agents the same 4 bald men he had behind him when he did his "briefing" to take attention away from Pelosi and the new House of Representatives?

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ann_t

Looks like he is confirming that there is no problem.


More of what Acosta had to say today in an interview with Brianna Keiler:


"JIM ACOSTA, CNN CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, Brianna, it's
part of this P.R. campaign on the part of the White House to try to drum
up support for the wall.

Obviously, it's not changing the
minds of a lot of Democrats right now. They don't want to give in and
give the president his way on this wall in order to shut this -- or end
this shutdown, I should say.

And so it seems as though the
shutdown going to drag on. But just to tell you what's happening right
now, the president is having a roundtable discussion with Border Patrol
agents, also with some members of Congress, two Republican senators from
Texas who are down here, John Cornyn and Ted Cruz.

And they're
going over what they feel to be the current threat posed by people
coming across the border. The president during this presentation at
that roundtable is talking about some of the crime and drugs coming
across the border and how he wants to have a barrier, a steel barrier,
along the border, what he's essentially calling a wall.

But,
Brianna, just to let you know, where we are in McAllen, Texas, local
officials have pointed to national statistics that show this is one of
the safest places to live in America from a crime standpoint. It is one
of the safest cities in the country.

And just to give you a
sense as to what the border is like here, take a look behind me. There
are some of the steel slats that you hear the president talking about,
but it's sort of a piecemeal approach here on the border. You see this
from time to time and then it'll end, and then you will see what we have
right here, which is just some chain- link fencing that you might have
in your backyard. And then behind us here is just some trees and some
brush before you hit the Rio Grande River. We talked to a couple of law
enforcement officials here who said from time to time people would come
and set ladders up here and they would come across and come into the
McAllen, Texas, area.

But, again, we have encountered resident
after resident, Brianna, who has told -- they have told us all day long
that they feel very safe living in this community, they don't -- they
don't see what the president is talking about in terms of there being a
crisis down on the border. At least they don't feel it in their
community and they don't understand why the president is considering
declaring a national emergency.

They feel, living in one of the
safest places in America, that there really isn't an emergency in their
backyard. And so it is kind of a curious spot the president has chosen
to -- to do this sort of photo- op, being one of the safest places in
the country.

At the same time, he is getting -- he's getting
some real-time intelligence, some real-time information from Border
Patrol agents, law enforcement officials who are on the ground here
right now. They're talking to him about all this.

But it's
interesting to see people sort of latch on to the steel slat fencing
idea, where, when you have a situation like we have here in McAllen,
Texas, where there is some of that here, but it's certainly not running
the stretch of the entire border in McAllen, Texas. That's sort of a
piecemeal approach.

[15:05:05]

And yet residents who have been living here for a
very long time -- I talked to a gentleman who has been here his whole
life, and he's in his 70s. And he said he just doesn't see the kind of
crime that the president talks about on a regular basis when he talks
about -- when the president talks about what he considers to be a crisis
down on the border -- Brianna.

KEILAR: Jim Acosta in McAllen, thank you."

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1901/10/cnr.07.html

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llucy

So there was Sarah Sanders spreading fake news yet again.


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Joaniepoanie

Like Sanders is any match for Acosta....ha!

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kaych


"I found some steel slats down on the border," wrote Acosta on Twitter. "But I don’t see anything resembling a national emergency situation.. at least not in the McAllen, Texas, area of the border where Trump will be today."

"As a matter of fact, it's pretty tranquil down here!"

said the dim-dum-dem Jim Acosta in his video

I don't usually like to call people names,

but this is just toooo funny to resist. LOL!

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elvis

Trump and his administration have so little credibility left that I'm afraid I don't even listen much anymore. SAD.

If you'll notice, this wasn't Trump's words or reporting. This was straight from the McAllen Texas border official with statistics which don't lie, or have any political affiliation.

I made the same statement to Kathy yesterday. Makes one wonder whether it's lack of comprehension to simple ignorance.

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Really

Still waiting for a description of what is needed on official WH letterhead.

Or, the WH proposal for the needed legislation.

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cattyles8675309

Acosta showed steel slats next to plain old chain-link fence. The point is that what was there, being shown, was not keeping anyone out. And McAllen is one of the safest cities in US.


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Joaniepoanie

One border official.....hardly a consensus. I'm sure if you got all border agents together some would believe a wall is needed, some would say no. Opinion.

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ann_t

Kaych I'm sorry, but you are just too funny.

You should have read the transcript.

The steel slats, and the chain link fencing is just piece meal. Some here, some there, a few trees and brush. The people living there feel safe. It is a low crime area.



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Becca Reese

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The steel slats don’t run the entire length of the border in the McAllen area. We found one part where there is a chain link fence. Occasionally migrants come thru but residents say their community is quite safe.


Once again, Jim, thanks for confirming Trump's point. The officer who spoke today (this is his sector) said that 6% of apprehensions occur where there is fencing and >90% occur where there is no fencing.


Sport, you're doing a bang-up job of proving that walls work!

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Becca Reese

One border official.....hardly a consensus.


LOL! This wasn't an opinion survey! This was statistics! Yano? Facts? Data?


smh

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elvis

OMG. The word of a border official about the state of the border?

Or the opinion of some poster on HT?

Hmmm. That's a hard one.

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chase_gw

Perhaps you should do some research on the opinions of the residents, mayors, governors and congress critters with constituencies on the border.

Yeah the folk in South Carolina and Kansas want a wall.....it's not their backyard

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elvis

You go ahead, Chase. Post your findings here.

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momj47(7A)

I see that Trump wore his "natural disaster" costume to the border .





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mayflowers

Who is that natural disaster with the beard standing behind him? Is it Rafael Cruz?

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Ann

Becca, didn't the guy say there were 435 crossings in his single sector, just today (or yesterday) - in one single day?

IMO, as usual, Dems are going too far and, also IMO, this could literally kill them in 2020. They have absolutely no logical reason for opposing a small ask for more and better barrier and it's glaringly apparent. I can't imagine anyone still believes they truly believe in border security as they so boldly proclaim.

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catticusmockingbird

Mayflowers, I think the beard is an improvement.

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Ann

I think Cruz looks good with a beard.

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olliesmom(7)

Ann, I thought the same thing!

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elvis

I don't recognize. Which photo and what is he wearing?

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Ann

Cruz is in the first picture, just to the right of Trump, in the khaki/gold jacket.

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Becca Reese

Ann

Becca, didn't the guy say there were 435 crossings in his single sector, just today (or yesterday) - in one single day?

Yes. Further, 133 were not from Mexico or South America.

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Becca Reese

IMO, as usual, Dems are going too far and, also IMO, this could
literally kill them in 2020. They have absolutely no logical reason for
opposing a small ask for more and better barrier and it's glaringly
apparent

Ann, as we can see right here, Trump haters will attack anyone who puts their narrative in peril. Just look at how they attack the very people who put their lives on the line to protect us.

They have this concerning ability to attack people and kick them to the curb when they don't serve the greater agenda.

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momj47(7A)

IMO, as usual, Dems are going too far

Good thing your opinion doesn't count for any more than mine does

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momj47(7A)

This is the "wall" Trump wants.

Maybe he is planning on cutting his way out some dark night, and make his escape after the Mueller report comes out.

Steel Border Wall Prototype Can Be Breached With Saw


The design had been used by previous administrations, but this particular prototype was built under the current administration, according to NBC News.

A spokesperson for U.S. Customs and Border Protection told KPBS originally that the walls weren’t designed to be “indestructible,” only to “impede or deny efforts to scale, breach, or dig under such a barrier, giving agents time to respond.”

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elvis

Yes. Further, 133 were not from Mexico or South America.

I'll bet they're not from Canada, Australia, England, New Zealand, Greenland, Iceland, or Ireland, either.

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gmatx zone 6

Nothing will improve Cruz's appearance or reduce his gag effect!

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Joaniepoanie

"This was statistics! Yano? Facts? Data?"

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I don't believe any statistics coming out of this administration.

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Becca Reese

I don't believe any statistics coming out of this administration.

As I said, you are calling the border officer a liar and purposefully ignoring data.

What a joke.

Thank God there are still good men and women willing to protect us and put their lives on the line, knowing that so many Americans hate them, call them liars and don't care if they go home to their families when their shift is over.

What a disgrace.

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Ann

When we say Dems have become unpatriotic and put the interests of illegals over the interests of Americans, they say it's not true. Ummmmm, yes, it is true.

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Joaniepoanie

Oh please...the outrage, the drama! I wouldn't need saving at the border because there is nothing going on down there I'd need saving from. McAllen....7th safest city in the US. Beto says all is calm and safe in his hometown of El Paso.

This administration lies about everything everyday. Any border officer who's a Trump supporter is going to tout the party line...it's that simple.

As Thor said on another thread....how come there was no "crisis" until the Dems took control of the house?

And how come the "caravan" magically disappeared after the midterms?

You are being gaslighted yet again by your lying idol.

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Ann

"disappeared"? It did? Is that what Tijuana thinks?

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Joaniepoanie

Trump stopped talking about it after rabidly talking about it nonstop before the midterms. Why is that? He comes up with made up stuff to suit his own political purposes.

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Ann

Joanie, I'd have to go look at old threads to remember correctly, but I believe it was very soon after the election that the caravan began to arrive, and in large numbers - months ahead of the estimated time of arrival. As I recall, it was very soon after the election that the conversation increased (and significantly) rather than stopped. I think Dems were saying/hoping the conversation had stopped, but instead the exact opposite happened, and it got very, very real and out of control.

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elvis

Joaniepoanie And how come the "caravan" magically disappeared after the midterms?

  • Nov. 14, 2018

TIJUANA, Mexico — Hundreds of migrants in the caravan traveling from Central America have begun arriving in the northern Mexico border city of Tijuana, setting up a potential confrontation with the American authorities that has been brewing for weeks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/14/world/americas/migrants-caravan-tijuana-border.html

Published 7:08 p.m. ET Nov. 13, 2018 | Updated 2:34 p.m. ET Nov. 14, 2018

MEXICO CITY — The first waves of the migrant caravan arrived at the U.S.-Mexico border near Tijuana on Tuesday, but the vast majority of the Central Americans remained more than 1,000 miles away, trying to pick up their pace in their quest to seek asylum.

The roughly 350 migrants who reached the border were part of smaller splinter groups who grew impatient with the caravan's progress, preferring to forego the security of traveling in numbers to more quickly file their asylum claims in the United States, according to local authorities and migrant advocates.

But an estimated 5,000 migrants spent Monday night in the central Mexican city of Guadalajara, before enduring another round of frustration during their attempts to move farther north on Tuesday. More than 2,000 more have received temporary visas to stay in the country.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/11/13/migrant-caravan-some-border-most-mexico-far-us/1992059002/

There are many, many more news reports, jp. You don't understand this is real? This is very alarming behavior on your part.

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kaych

They have absolutely no logical reason for opposing a small ask for more and better barrier and it's glaringly apparent. I can't imagine anyone still believes they truly believe in border security as they so boldly proclaim.

Absolutely Ann! Those who support border security would support all measures to improve border security. You know who else is opposed to border security? The drug & child traffickers who are making $$$ hand over fist, the criminals & gangs & illegals who break laws of every kind!

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Joaniepoanie

Good grief.....can you not discern that I did not mean that people physically "magically disappeared" but that Trump stopped talking about them after the midterms like he rabidly did before the midterms. I guess this is where critical thinking comes in. This is very alarming behavior on your part.

No crisis then, no crisis now, Trump could care less about a wall....everything he does like this is a political stunt to keep his voters hanging on until 2020.


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elvis

Cray cray.

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Joaniepoanie

Really? How about this posted by ziemia on another thread tonight:

Joe Walsh is a conservative Republican, a former Rep from Illinois who did vote for Trump). (I disagree with most of his opinions, but I do work to find real Republicans to 'follow'.) He said this tonight:

"On December 20th, Trump said the border was "tight" and nobody was getting through. In fact, he pounded the media for not covering the great job being done at the border.


And now only 3 weeks later, Trump is calling the border a "national emergency."

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There is no national emergency or crisis. It's manufactured nonsense by Trump for his base. And even if there was, do you think a wall will be built in time to solve this sudden emergency/crisis?

A wall will never be built because there will be too many lawsuits filed blocking it and they will go on for years.

Border security yes.......more personnel, surveillance equipment, etc....but a wall, no. And how about some bills to address the real cause of undocumented immigrants....overstaying visas.

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mrskjun(9)

I want to know where that Home Depot is located along the border that sells those expensive saws and ladders.

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Ziemia(6a)

More on Joe Walsh - he is now saying he isn't a Republican. Though his views on immigration do match that of many GOP in Congress - he sees Trump as someone who doesn't know what is going on. He's just one "former" Republican.

He says he believes in the Constitution, freedom, and limited government. (Part of his "I am not a Republican" statement.)

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Becca Reese

mrskjun(9)

I want to know where that Home Depot is located along the border that sells those expensive saws and ladders.

...and acetylene torches.

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Stan Areted

Maybe they get their girlfriends or family members to turn tricks on the Mexico side for quick cash to go to Home Depot. It's no different than the rapes and sex slavery that occurs from these groups of illegal immigrants and caravans and democrats are just fine with it-- on the journey and once they get into our country--so what's a little prostitution to help them get in faster, right?

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Becca Reese

I think Dems were saying/hoping the conversation had stopped, but
instead the exact opposite happened, and it got very, very real and out
of control.

I've never seen so much smoke blown around to obfuscate the fact that the problem is spiking and morphing in nature.

Ann, they are even attacking the border officers! They insinuate daily that they are lying, or don't know what they're talking about when it comes to the incontrovertible facts. Statistics don't lie.

BTW, that border officer who Trump spoke with and then informed the media about the statistics from his sector (over 400 apprehensions in ONE day, just in his sector, 133 NOT from Mexico or South America) is 25-year veteran Juan Ortiz.

Like ~50% of border patrol, he's hispanic and now public enemy #1 to the leftists.

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momj47(7A)

What problem would that be, "Becca"?

Mr. Trump has so many

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mrskjun(9)

I think it would serve the left well to go back and watch the speeches given by Obama, Hillary, Schumer et al, regarding securing the border. Hypocrites all.

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alexrander

As majestic bells of bolts struck shadows in the sounds
Seeming to be the chimes of freedom flashing
Flashing for the warriors whose strength is not to fight
Flashing for the refugees on the unarmed road of flight
An' for each an' ev'ry underdog soldier in the night
An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing

Bob Dylan


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sunflower_petal(5a)

mrskjun, no one is against securing the border. It the 'how' that differs.

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Stan Areted

Then sunflower exactly what are you FOR?

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sunflower_petal(5a)

More surveillance technology, more agents, more personnel to process asylum requests. I believe that if our points of entry actually helped people in a timely manner that fewer people would feel the need to enter illegally.

Also, severely crackdown on employers (like dairy processors in Iowa) that knowingly use undocumented people while pretending they are using legal people. Stop the jobs.


“Eighty percent of the Latino population out here in northwest Iowa is undocumented,” estimated one dairy farmer in the area who knows the Nunes family and often sees them while buying hay in nearby Rock Valley. “It would be great if we had enough unemployed Americans in northwest Iowa to milk the cows. But there’s just not. We have a very tight labor pool around here.” This person said the system was broken, leaving dairy farmers no choice. “I would love it if all my guys could be legal.”


https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a23471864/devin-nunes-family-farm-iowa-california/

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catspat(aka)

Border official showing Trump photos of tunnels under wall yesterday (second one they've found, under a part of the wall just 4 miles away). That's a pretty substantial tunnel and that's where they actually have personnel who can monitor the wall.


https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/01/11/border-official-trump-tunnels-under-wall-acosta-pkg-vpx.cnn

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Stan Areted

I believe that if our points of entry actually helped people in a timely manner that fewer people would feel the need to enter illegally.


Thank you sunflower, for answering the question.

I understand and appreciate your point of view; I also believe in more surveillance, more technology, and more agents. I also believe that physical barriers are necessary to stop and slow down and deter--all three. That photo of Jim Acosta standing at a barrier just shows that people go elsewhere, look for an easier entry.

So what if I were totally against technology because it doesn't 100% stop the illegals from entering? How is that any different than the barrier/wall/ whatever, also not being 100% effective, but effective nonetheless? What is wrong with using ALL options to stop this assault on our country and our law and make people follow our laws and enter legally?

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sunflower_petal(5a)

" What is wrong with using ALL options to stop this assault on our country and our law and make people follow our laws and enter legally? "

And I'm not saying there is not a place where a bit of actual barrier wouldn't help. But Trump and his supporters make it sound like it's all barrier or nothing.

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elvis

What is wrong with using ALL options to stop this assault on our country and our law and make people follow our laws and enter legally?

That's the reasonable course of action, Stan. Of course.

Hyperbole aside from all POVs, the presence of countless unauthorized persons in the US is prohibitively expensive on many levels, not just money. We are struggling to provide basic necessities to the people who are legally here, homeless, the underserved communities, families in crisis, opioids, and on and on.

We simply cannot afford this continuing influx of uninvited, children or adults., sick or well, criminals, or simply impoverished folk desperate for a miraculous fix for their miserable lots in life.

We should join the Peace Corps or another organization dedicated to helping the less fortunate. We are simply taking up space punching away at our key pads/boards in the comfort of our comparatively luxurious lives. We are doing nothing to help anyone.

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Joaniepoanie


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I want to know where that Home Depot is located along the border that sells those expensive saws and ladders.

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Well, there are three in Tijuana alone! And pretty darn close to the border!




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Elvis

"Join the Peace Corps or another organization dedicated to helping the less fortunate. You are simply taking up space punching away at your key pads/boards in the comfort of your comparatively luxurious lives. You are doing nothing to help anyone."

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Really? Aren't you doing the same thing?


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kaych

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More surveillance technology, more agents, more personnel to process asylum requests. I believe that if our points of entry actually helped people in a timely manner that fewer people would feel the need to enter illegally.

Thank you for that sunflower! This seems to be a good example of the media not doing their job. Here is a very detailed article about Trump's proposal which I admit that he hasn't done as good of job explaining it as he could have.


The president's proposal, which in addition to a barrier contains provisions for more immigration judges, more Border Patrol agents, more detention beds, more medical resources, and more technology, would improve the situation. If the political debate were not being fought at such an extreme pitch, that might be obvious to all.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/byron-york-trump-plan-would-improve-current-border-situation

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elvis

joaniepoanie wrote:

Really? Aren't you doing the same thing?

Good catch, thanks. I've edited to reflect my thoughts more accurately.

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elvis

What is wrong with using ALL options to stop this assault on our country and our law and make people follow our laws and enter legally?

That's the reasonable course of action, Stan. Of course.

Hyperbole aside from all POVs, the presence of countless unauthorized persons in the US is prohibitively expensive on many levels, not just money. We are struggling to provide basic necessities to the people who are legally here, homeless, the underserved communities, families in crisis, opioids, and on and on.

We simply cannot afford this continuing influx of uninvited, children or adults., sick or well, criminals, or simply impoverished folk desperate for a miraculous fix for their miserable lots in life.

We should join the Peace Corps or another organization dedicated to helping the less fortunate. We are simply taking up space punching away at our key pads/boards in the comfort of our comparatively luxurious lives. We are doing nothing to help anyone.

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kaych

A few more things confirmed that the dems are rejecting:

It's day 21 of the partial federal government shut down. Washington D.C. is increasingly quiet as Democrats continue their refusal to fund any part of a border barrier and lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are headed home.

But while the talking point is about stopping President Trump's wall, Democrats are actually rejecting a long list of border security measures laid out by the White House.

Last week, Office of Budget and Management Acting Director Russell Vought sent a letter to the Senate Appropriations Committee outlining requirements for an adequate funding bill.

"Appropriations bills for fiscal year (FY) 2019 that have already been considered by the current and previous Congress are inadequate to fully address these critical issues. Any agreement for the current year should satisfy the following priorities," the letter states. "The President requests at least $563 million for 75 additional Immigration Judges and support staff to reduce the backlog of pending immigration cases."

The current backlog for asylum claims made at the border is 800,000 cases. According to the Department of Homeland Security, asylum claims have increased by 2000 percent over the past five years and approximately 90 percent of them are thrown out in court. President Trump has also requested additional funding for 750 new Border Patrol Agents and $571 million for 2,000 additional Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agents to help "address gang violence, smuggling and trafficking, and the spread of drugs in our communities."

Meanwhile, President Trump is specifically providing more resources on requests Democrats have been making. They are the following:

-Detention Beds, ICE: The President requests $4.2 billion to support 52,000 detention beds.

-Humanitarian needs: The President requests an additional $800 million to address urgent humanitarian needs. This includes additional funding for enhanced medical support, transportation, consumable supplies appropriate for the population, and additional temporary facilities for processing and short-term custody of this vulnerable popilation, which are necessary to ensure the well-being of those taken into custody.

-Counter-narcotics/weapons technology: $675 million would provide Non-Intrusive Inspection (NII) technology at inbound lanes at U.S. Southwest Border Land Ports of ENtry (LPOE) would all CBP to deter and etect more contraband, including narcotics, weapons, and other materials that pose nuclear and radiological threats. This would reqires an increase of $631 million over the FY 2019 funding level in the Senate version of the bill.

Significantly, the President is requesting nearly as much funding for ICE detention beds as he is for a border barrier.

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elvis

Gosh, I'm somewhat surprised at the absence of approving remarks in light of what you've posted there, Kay.

This one caught my eye. I really don't want nuclear or other radiological materials smuggled in, we have way too much of that junk here already.

Counter-narcotics/weapons technology: $675 million would provide Non-Intrusive Inspection (NII) technology at inbound lanes at U.S. Southwest Border Land Ports of ENtry (LPOE) would allow CBP to deter and detect more contraband, including narcotics, weapons, and other materials that pose nuclear and radiological threats.

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elvis

Still waiting for remarks about everyone's approval of the president's border security plans besides a physical barrier.

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Did they confirm this?








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If it really is Trump's plan someone needs to tell him so he can talk about it. Maybe you could send him the memo Elvis.





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elvis

Here you go, Chase:

The administration's negotiating team, led by Vice President Mike Pence, Department of Homeland Security (DHS) secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and White House senior adviser Jared Kushner, have provided Democrats with an outline of their demands for a deal to end the partial shutdown.

In addition to President Trump's unwavering $5.7 billion request for border barrier funds, the White House is demanding $563 million for 75 additional immigration judges and support staff, $211 million to hire 750 additional Border Patrol officers, $571 million to deploy 2,000 law enforcement personnel, $4.2 billion for 52,000 detention beds, $675 million for inspection technology at ports of entry and $800 million for "humanitarian needs," which include funds for medical support, transportation, supplies and temporary facilities along the southwestern border.

Democrats want to secure the border? Great. Come to the table. We are ready to negotiate. We are willing to come to a deal to reopen the government," White House communications director of strategic communications Mercedes Schlapp told reporters Monday after confirming the administration's latest demands. "Stop the delay tactics."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-house-asks-for-billions-of-dollars-to-fund-border-operations/

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Oh, here's that thread Becca. I do remember this one but then heard about the KUSI part which prompted that other one I posted.

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Democrats want to secure the border? Great. Come to the table. We are ready to negotiate. We are willing to come to a deal to reopen the government," White House communications director of strategic communications Mercedes Schlapp told reporters Monday after confirming the administration's latest demands. "Stop the delay tactics."


January 7 was, relatively, about a million years ago, elvis, on this issue. One problem is that while Trump occasionally made negotiation noises this week, Pence kept shutting that notion down. So, what is it?

It happened again on Thursday. A group of Republican senators were trying to forge a deal to pair wall funding with legal status for undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as children, often known as Dreamers. Then Mr. Pence told them that their effort would not earn Mr. Trump’s support, effectively torpedoing the talks. Members of the group said they recognized that their proposal would rise and fall according to the whims of the president.

“The president is the chief executive who is going to be a part of solving this problem,” said Senator Thom Tillis, Republican of North Carolina, “so I must trust him.”

But hours later, the president contradicted Mr. Pence, saying in McAllen, Tex., that he would be open to a “broader” immigration deal that would “simultaneously” deal with the Dreamers and a wall — if senators would bring him one they could agree on.

Again, Republicans were left baffled by a president who has pitched himself as an expert in the art of the deal.

“I wouldn’t want to comment on his unique style of negotiation and communications,” Mr. Rooney said. “Sometimes it’s worked very effectively for him, and sometimes it has confused a lot of people.”

The concern goes beyond Mr. Trump and Mr. Pence. Jared Kushner, his son-in-law and senior adviser, has also been asked to help resolve the wall impasse, but Mr. Kushner has no experience in crisis negotiations on Capitol Hill, and his attempts at intervention have borne little fruit. The day before Mr. Trump’s prime-time Oval Office address to the nation, Mr. Kushner called Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia, a centrist known for his enthusiasm for bipartisan deals, and said the president was firmly committed to his position on the wall and did not plan to budge, according to two people familiar with the conversation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the call was private.

Mr. Kushner has little relationship with Mr. Manchin, but he left the senator with the impression that the White House believed public opinion would be on the president’s side after the speech, and that Democrats would simply have to relent. That did not go over well. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/us/politics/trump-shutdown-confusion.html

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It's like they were almost human back then.




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kaych

It's clearly top officials in both parties that have refused for all these years to fix this problem, & the American people are the only ones who have suffered because of it. One (although IMO very major) of the many reasons Trump is so hated... for upsetting their high & mighty self-profiting business as usual.

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elvis

Yep.

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