Hi Ashley , there is a company called Anything Grows out of London ontario that sells seeds for organic /non gmo plants. Not sure if they sell started plants though but I am sure you can call and ask . They have a booth at the Western Fair on Saturdays it says . Here is the link to their website. Hope this helps .

http://www.anythinggrows.com/

Just to clarify there are no GMO seeds for sale to home gardeners, whoever you buy from.

I suppose they don't have to sell gmo seeds to home gardeners it's already infiltrated all different foods we eat.

I’m not in Ontario but im pretty sure any garden center will have a selection of some organic plants in the spring. Here in BC even the big box stores have carry a few organic seedlings.

Thanks signet_gw and Hrib! I will look at Anything Grows and hopefully some other options will be available as well.

"I suppose they don't have to sell gmo seeds to home gardeners it's already infiltrated all different foods we eat."

Well.....no, this is not at all true :-) But just serves to underline the huge misunderstanding many have about GMO'd food crops.

Actually the first comment made by theforgottenone1013 is most on point. It is far less a concern for the seeds or starts to be organic in production but far more critical in the raising or growing of the seeds/starts to fruition/harvest. Forget where or how the seeds or starst are sourced and focus on your growing practices!!!

Actually, most edible farmed animals are fed with GMO crops. So yes, if you eat meat, you're eating stuff that grew on GMOs. If that bothers you, stop eating meat! Are GMO crops safe? Well, huge numbers of tests have been run on them, and no one has ever found any health problems associated with them, but some people are just uncomfortable with what might be considered unnaturalness. Now, it is true that GMO resistance to weed killers (e.g. glyphosates and 2,4-D) means that GMO crops are increasingly grown with such weed killers, which have been linked to health problems,

"Actually, most edible farmed animals are fed with GMO crops. So yes, if you eat meat, you're eating stuff that grew on GMOs. "

Not necessarily :-) Grass-fed beef, free range chickens and any other meat that is raised organically will have little to no exposure to any GMO'd grain.

Most edible farmed animals are not "grass-fed beef, free range chickens and any other meat that is raised organically". But it's true that if you don't eat most edible farmed animals, you can avoid GMOs. An organic cow can’t eat GMO alfalfa or corn.

My point was that if someone has an aversion to GMO's, they do NOT have to give up meat!! All of those sources I mentioned are pretty mainstream these days, as are other organically grown foods. The options are out there........

Daninthedirt , Gardengal48. Your inputs are interesting . I think this may not be the correct forum for this discussion though and I personally don't care to argue.....no one can convince me that GMO's and the herbicides used in the millions of pounds to spray these crops are safe. However , to each his own We are talking GMO wheat, soy , corn , canola and some alfalfa , and sugar beets grown in Canada that require spraying with Glyphosate . Some of the most vital crops used in our foods and if we are smart we wont eat them .

For some interesting info , and a graph that shows how much the increase in the use of herbicides in Canada has increased since 1990 check this link : https://cban.ca/publications/factsheets/ Check out all the info there . One has to ask themselves why the huge increase.. It is scarey!

This link also speaks volumes https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/02/160202090536.htm

Quote from this link : Enough glyphosate was applied in 2014 to spray over three-quarters of a pound of glyphosate active ingredient on every harvested acre of cropland in the U.S., and remarkably, almost one-half pound per acre on all cropland worldwide (0.53 kilogram/hectare). Unquote

There is also much more info out there that to me speaks to just how stupid people can really be.for the sake of making more money.

You can of course if you want , continue to eat your glyphosate loaded foods and tell yourself how safe they are ....I will grow my own without these poisons in them thank you.

Oh, and Ashely, you are welcome! If I find any more local links for organic seeds/plants I will post them for you.

When it comes to discussions about home gardening, introducing the topic of non-GMO seeds is bound to generate some discussion. If for no other reason than the one provided by floral - GMO seeds or plants are NOT available to home gardeners!! So why bring it up at all??

I agree ..........why bring it up , GMO's will always generate discussion however like I said before this topic DOES NOT belong here in this forum . This is supposed to be a Canadian seed trading forum . May I ask why you chimed in about meat that is not GMO? Not sure how that is helpful to the lady looking for seeds/plants?

I did not bring up the GMO topic you would have to "speak" to FloralUK for that answer. or Daninthedirt from TX.

Not sure why it is so difficult for me to just share the link for a local Canadian seed source for the Canadian lady that lives in my area who asked for some help in finding a local place to buy what she was looking for .without all the other input from people who live no where near where we are unless it was to just "stir the pot" . I offered a source for what she was looking for , and that should have been the end of it unless someone had another source for her to check out.

I think the important point is that GMO veggies are, in themselves, just fine. No one can convince me that they're not. It's the bad stuff that often comes with them that ought to be avoided. Glyphosate is certainly something to worry about. Highly toxic. Bacterial breakdown in the soil is slow, and it does not leach. Additionally, it is taken up by many plants and metabolized by just a few of them.

That's why I would have no worries about planting GMO seeds and harvesting produce from them. I just wouldn't spray glyphosate on them! But that's correct that, for home gardens, it's pretty much a non-issue, since they aren't even available.

" Like I said this topic doesnt belong here."

Very simple solution to that - don't bring it up in the first place.

"GMO's will always generate discussion however like I said before this topic DOES NOT belong here in this forum. This is supposed to be a Canadian seed trading forum."

This thread was cross posted in three different forums. One of which was the Vegetable Gardening forum, which is where I found it and I assume the same for Floral, Dan, and Gardengal. The Vegetable forum discusses a multitude of topics depending on what is brought up in the comments.

Rodney

Thanks for the info Rodney . Maybe (not sure how ) the other forums can be deleted from this post. Just another change that Houzz made and not for the better it seems.

I am pretty sure YOU brought the topic up in your post on 1/9....which was only the second response in the thread that as of that time, had made no mention of GMO's......."Hi Ashley , there is a company called Anything Grows out of London ontario that sells seeds for organic /non gmo plants." Subsequent comments were made to clarify that GMO's are not pertinent to discussions of home gardening. Any escalation of the topic was generated by your additional responses.

And the GMO clarification is valid regardless of where/what forum this is posted to - Canada or Timbuktu!!

Gardengal48 sigh, Get off your high horse . there is no need to be rude. I simply stated what I saw on the website when I shared the link . It was others who carried it forward and I responded to them

As you quotoed , yes I did write "Hi Ashley , there is a company called Anything Grows out of London ontario "that sells seeds for organic /non gmo plants." If you check the link you will see that on the very first page of the site they mention non gmo seeds so that is why it was included in my post . Mea Culpa . OMG . Let it go Louie , let it go . It must be difficult to be as wonderful as you are. oh and don't forget ........ right !

signet, there was absolutely nothing rude in my comment above. And I quoted you verbatim from your very first post to this thread so no, nothing is at all unclear. You wrote it - I only quoted it. It has nothing to do with being right or wrong - it is what it is and is there in black and white for all the world to see/read.

Ugh ! You win , it is not worth more of my time to spend on this . I tried to help a local lady . Wont do that again . You can be sure . Oh and it wasn't what you said it was how you said it .

It's not there anymore, but I recollect that the OP originally brought up GMOs. I'm pretty sure that's what floral was responding to. It's not there anymore. Can an OP modify a post without a "last modified" sticker going on it? I guess so. I have to assume that the OP agreed that GMOs were irrelevant, and deleted it from that post. But responses to it could not be deleted.

The OP determines what forums their post goes to. See way up top. Any responses to that original post go to all of the forums specified by the OP. This is NOT just the Canadian seed trading forum, though that forum was included in the distribution by the OP. I don't think there is a way to reply to just one of the forums that the OP posted to.

Signet- Being able to cross post a thread to multiple forums is a somewhat new feature. When a new post is created Houzz says to choose up to three topics (forums) to post to. I've seen multiple people complain about it. Especially when someone cross posts to FAQ pages or obscure forums like Ask The Yard Doctor (whoever the heck that is) because then nobody can reply to the post.

Rodney