Would you draw a bathtub full of water, and let all the family member's use the same water? Its the same thing putting dishes in the dishwasher without rinsing them off. Your washing all your dishes in dirty water.... But according to the posts I've read their are a number of factors that contribute to the discussion. It wastes water by rinsing dishes... Well is the water turned on full blast or just at a trickle? The food on the dishes actually helps the detergent work better... Really? Thats like jumping into a mud pit, going inside and taking a shower while trying to lather up with the mud still on you? Does the soap work better? One post read that the dishes sit in the dishwasher for awhile before the dishwasher is ran. So a response was to use the prerinse. Isn't this the same thing as rinsing before they go into the dishwasher? By not prerinsing, food can and will clog into the sprayer jets, eventually. Most people don't know what their hot water heater is set at, and it usually takes a minimum of 125 to start to break down food, and 160 degrees to dissolve food. Not to mention that your dishwasher is usually filled with cold water because the of the draw from the water pipes doesn't heat up in time to get the hot water to the dishwasher. So, in turn if your dishwasher has a heating element, it heats up the water, which is counter productive of the whole reasoning not to rinse your dishes. How many people use the dryer selection to dry their dishes? Or do you just open up the dishwasher and let the dishes air dry? If you use the dryer selection on the dishwasher, You are using as much, if not more, energy then my prerinsing the dishes..... But from what I read, if you aren't using the correct detergent then you've lost the game. Well, if the dishwasher is doing its job, then it shouldn't matter on what kind of detergent you use? Moral of the story, rinse your dishes, check the temp of your hot water heater, prime the hot water before running your dishwasher, let your dishes air dry and you will actually save more energy.

Vinegar works in two ways with regards to laundry: Vinegar dissolves minerals. If you have hard water that is combining with detergent and leaving a residue on the clothes, the vinegar will dissolve the minerals in the water, stopping the deposit of residue. Vinegar neutralizes the alkalinity of wash water. This makes clothing feel more pleasant to the skin. There is nothing inherently "softening" about vinegar, and the fact that I have a whole house water softener probably explains why I get no benefit from vinegar. Those with hardness in their water will benefit the most. I also read in another thread that Miele recommends against using vinegar, as it may damage vital rubber components in the machine. Senseo, a large manufacturer of coffee makers, also says that vinegar can damage its machines and recommends use of citric acid instead. The concern stems from the fact that acetic acid (vinegar) is a mineral-based acid, and as such is damaging to some rubber and plastic components. Citric acid would be a better product to use in the rinse, and citric acid also has the added benefit of "smoothing" fabric fibers which is something vinegar doesn't do.

I am not sure any seller will be on record telling you to do what I had done. That is a very predictable answer you will get, from someone who most likely has no knowledge of sous vide cooking. Also I am not sure the nice lady understood totally the exact condition of what I had done. I will never cook with that plastic in a 400F oven. 150F is a relatively low temperature for plastics. I seem to remember that food grade plastics are rated to 212F. The moral of the story: Don't do it if you are not comfortable with this once a year crazy idea. For fun, watch these two videos. It seems to me that his plastic used was not even food grade. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WniZ1ly5Ik http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neqq8imstlc&feature=relmfu dcarch

Do you thing there is something I could add to the grout to make it stronger on the edges? I've heard that adding acrylic paint can strengthen it (??) No, not paint. That's just for color. There are acrylic or latex additives, called admix, which one can mix into dry grout instead of water for enhanced strength. It's sold on the shelves right by the grout. But don't add it to Polyblend brand. It already has polymer additives in it. If your grout dries too fast, it's probably for three reasons. One, the base absorbed some water. Two, the ambient temperature was too warm, or you were working in the sun. Three, too much or too little water was added to the grout, or it was not mixed well. I use Polyblend sanded grout with water. I've never done the misting bit, and unless you live in the desert, I'm still not sure why one would. I've never had a single crack or problem, so somehow, I'm doing something right. The last time I grouted, I made mental note of the steps. I call my technique "waterless" grouting, because the only water I use is that contained in a plastic Solo cup, so there is little to throw out, and nothing to hose down. I hope this will be helpful for someone, because it's as frustrating to me as it is to you that you are having problems. I work at my kitchen table, over plastic garbage liners spread out flat, a big one for the table, and a smaller one for the project to sit on. Wearing a mask, I measure out the dry grout first, about two cups or a bit more. This is a great amount for a birdhouse, a bowl or a medium sized frame with some left over. Into a plastic Cool Whip container, I place about 1/4 of the grout, and spill in a good amount of water from my cup. I stir this very well with a painter's stick. It is very runny and very wet, but absolutely smooth. Now I start slowly adding more dry grout, stirring constantly. As soon as it starts to clump, I know it's time to add more water, a teaspoon or so at a time. This gets it smooth again, and still stirring, I add more grout. I keep slowly balancing water and grout, both in small amounts, until all the grout has been added. I work hard to get this completely mixed, concentrating on the bottom "corners" of the container. My grout is now mixed, and so thick, the paint stick stands straight up in it without support. But it is not dry anywhere, it is thoroughly and evenly mixed with no clumping. I remove my mask, wait a few minutes, and lift a handful of the grout out of the container and apply it to my mosaic and start rubbing it in. This is the fun part! I lift up my mosaic to get sides, bottom edges of tiles, etc., spreading and rubbing as I go. I lift my mosaic with my left hand, and grout with my right hand only. I am thorough. When satisfied, I wipe grout from my hands with paper towels (those "shop" towels from HD are great!), wipe off the paint stick, pop the cover on the Cool Whip container, shake the fallen grout off the smaller liner, and go outside for a few minutes. Or...if I've spent a really long time grouting, I figure it's already time to start wiping (the not-so-fun part). My initial wipe is with a dry paper towel. There is hardly any smearing, because my grout mixture is not a "wet" one. Now I move to a stack of clean "shop" cloths (aka "rags"), and begin serious cleaning. I dip a corner of the towel into the Solo cup water, and rub the grout away. I dip, rub, and turn the towel. By the time I've done two towels, the mosaic is clean and ready for the fine polishing. This last necessary stage is tedious for me. I put on magnifying eyeglasses, get out my dental pick, and visually inspect every single tile, scraping away that last bit of grout from the edges. Unless all my tiles are level (ha!), I get little pindot holes. These I fill from my Cool Whip container. By putting the lid on it, the grout remains damp and usable for filling holes for hours! Last step is several white vinegar polishes, dipping a cloth corner, and keeping to the tiles as much as possible. Now that I'm finished, I put the completed mosaic in the dining room to cure for three days. I wipe out the excess grout from the Cool Whip bowl with paper towels and toss. The grout, not the bowl. I use these bowls over and over, one for each grout color. I pour out whatever water remains in the plastic cup, and throw it out. (There will be a bit of grout residue in the bottom of cup, but that goes in the trash with the cup, not down the sink.) I swoop up the largest table liner, containing all my mess, and throw it out. I wash my hands, rinse them with vinegar and apply my favorite concentrated lotion. Note how different my grout mixing process is from what I did when I first started, which was to pour all the grout in a bowl or bucket, and add water to the whole thing. My current process evolved because I found it too difficult to get a smooth mixture with water evenly distributed doing it all at once. You folks are funny. Grout worms were an accident in the beginning. I had a container of premixed and some grout had collected around the edge under the lid and dried. It fell out when I removed the lid and I had my first grout worm. It was very helpful to get an idea of what that color would look like 'tween the china pieces, especially since they were all different colors and styles from a variety of plates. Looked good in some spots, not in others. So I made up little worms of all my other colors so I could lay them out on my pieces in advance. It's amazing how you can eliminate a color right away when you actually see it right up on the tiles, and also cuz grout dries a slightly different color. Also when you have grouts that vary only slightly (like white, off white, light gray, etc) it's easier to see what difference it makes. Has been so helpful for me I figured it's probably something everyone does. Grout worms: one tiny bit grout one tiny bit water mix together when pliable, shape into tiny worm or worms let dry Place over ungrouted piece to see what "finished" product will look like. More Grouting info: Use only SANDED grout. Usually also named floor grout. Do NOT use wall grout. (unless your grout lines are less than 1/8", and even then, not all of them will be unless you are a master or have mosaicked on a grid! Wall grout will sink and crack in larger grout lines.) Also please don't use premixed grout, it's results are not that great. Mix enough grout for your project. You do not want to be trying to mix more in the middle. Grout is not a really expensive thing and more is better than less. The directions on the bag are for the whole bag so don't do that much (unless you have a whole floor or wall to do)! If you are doing that much make sure the one bag is enough. Dye lots do differ and you don't want to have patches of differing colour. If you are adding colour, such as pure pigments or artist quality acrylic paint, then you REALLY must mix enough. You will never be able to match it exactly again (well maybe, but your measurements would have to be very precise, and even then...)! Before you even start mixing you need to tape and protect any parts of the project that aren't to be grouted i.e. the back and sides or details like porcelain flowers or porous seashells. Please avoid breathing in the grout dust, even an inexpensive dusk mask will provide protection. Please also give yourself enough time to finish grouting your project. Once you start you can't turn back! Usually 2 hours is a good estimate! You will also need a pair of rubber or latex gloves, newpaper and paper towel or sponge. Mix grout in a disposable plastic container. DO NOT DISPOSE OF GROUT DOWN A DRAIN! EVER! Usually 1 and a half, to 2 cups of dry grout per sq. foot of mosaic are needed, but it depends on how far apart, and how deep your spaces are. If your grout lines are large, please mix more. Better to have grout leftover, than have to stop in the middle of a project to mix more grout. The water you use! Best not to use tap water! I have never had a problem, but if you are using a darker grout, you may want to consider using a distilled pure water, with no minerals. Minerals (from hard water)can sometimes leach to the surface after the grout has cured, making it look like a much lighter grout, or it can become patchy. Now comes the fun part! Start with most of your dry powder in your container, then start adding water, a little bit at a time. The grout should be spreadable, and not runny. You want it to be like a batter, or nice for making mud patties. The desired consitency depends on how porous your tiles or project are! The more porous, the more water they will soak up. An all glass project will not soak up any water, so the grout should be mixed a bit thicker. If you mix your grout to thin, or runny, it will not stay in the cracks, it will stink, and also be weak. If you add too much water, you can add more grout powder. If you have added way too much water, you need to take some of the mixture out, and then add more powder, or you could be adding powder till the whole bag is gone! So be careful! Then you need to let the grout slack for 10 minutes. Just let it sit and do it's thing. While it's doing this make sure you have everything else you need; gloves, newspaper laid out, paper towels or sponge. Once you have it all ready to go take a nice handfull of grout and start spreading it all over the mosaic in many different directions so there are no air bubbles. Keep working it all around your piece and when you think you've got it all in the grout lines start using your hand to wipe off any extra. But do not press down into the grout lines and remove any in the cracks, keep a flat hand and work off the surface grout only . This is also when you mold/bevel/sculpt the edges so it looks "pretty"! Leave it for about 10 minutes and go back and gently wipe with paper towel or very mildy damp sponge, too wet and you will weaken and wash away the grout. Do this step as best as possible again without removing the grout in the cracks. You can fill in any tiny hole or spots that need more grout right now. There will be a bit of a haze on the tiles. Let it sit for 15 to 20 minutes and then come back and gently buff the mosaic with paper towel or rag. Come back in another half an hour and check to see if there is any leftover haze. You want to try to get this off before you leave it to cure as this could stay on the tiles for good! If you are in a really dry climate, like i am in the winter time, be careful that the grout doesn't cure/dry too fast as it will crack. If you are finding your grout is cracking then you should mist Vinegar will remove grout haze but you have to be careful with the colour fastness of the grout, especially if you are using a dark grout! Use a Q-tip and carefully individually wipe the tiles with the haze. the sooner the better before the grout is completely cured.It can be done up to a few days after you grouted. Or use Sulfamic Acid instead. You can get it at the hardware store and it comes in granular form. It is a mild acid you mix it with water. Always test for color-fastness of your grout first; like the back or a dot on the side of your piece, or even on the leftover grout. Made to be used with all kinds of grout. NOT sulfuric acid. So at this pont you are pretty much done.... except for clean up which you can be doing while you wait for the grout to start setting. Remember NOT to put grout down the drain! Posted by Haller Sat, Jan 22, 05 at 14:38 I recently grouted some smaller wall projects and was perplexed about how to grout them as they are somewhat 3-D with some tiles as thick as 2" (moulding-type edges) mixed with regular tile. Here's what I came up with and it worked so well, I am starting to use it for many of my projects. I think it would especially work well for those who don't have an outdoor or shop space and need to work in the house/keep things tidy. In a nutshell, I put the grout in a plastic bag and piped it in like a pastry chef. I used a quart-size freezer bag and put my grout powder in, added some water, sealed it up and mixed it by squishing it around. Then I cut off the bottom corner of the bag and squeezed the grout out into my project. It worked very nicely... the key is to have the grout be the right consistency... soft enough to squeeze out but firm enough to hold its shape. After squeezing grout into all the cracks, I pressed it in well with my fingers and finished in the usual way, wet sponge, etc. Then I just threw the grout bag away... no clean up! The only snag I had was that the ziplock is not quite strong enough for all the squeezing... it burst open on me (not fun). To resolve this I left enough room in the bag to close the ziplock and also put a twist-tie or strong rubberband around it. And it needs to be a freezer (strong, thick) bag... a thin sandwich bag will fail and make a big mess.