What went wrong attempting a cozy dining nook?
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Cozy lake cottage addition--need help with floorplan!
Comments (22)If I'm understanding you correctly about the "back of the house is buried in rock up to about 5 ft up the wall" then everything your builder shows as 1st floor addition is really going to be pretty much underground. That's why that whole space is being given over to "mech room" instead of living space. Is that right? I think you're right that an L-shaped staircase would work better. But, unless you want to lower the slope of the roof over your kitchen and living room area, there is not a whole lot you can do that would result in upstairs windows being "closer to the floor." The roof height of the lower floor pretty much dictates where windows that face the lake on the upper floor can start. You don't indicate how you access the deck on the lake side of the house. Is there a sliding door or something leading from the living room? In addition to the things you mentioned that you didn't like on your architect's first draft, I don't like it that taking half that interior wall down leaves you with a view from your kitchen straight into the bathroom toilet. And, you don't mention where you keep the washer/dryer. If you don't have one currently, I would think that at a lake house, getting a laundry room to deal with wet towels and swim suits would be a priority. Here's what I came up with. (It really is pretty much what you suggested re L-shaped staircase and putting bathroom in the back right corner where the closet was; and from the exterior would look pretty much identical to your architect's plan. First floor: Second floor: The dimensions of the upstairs addition is 18' x 22' (since you didn't specify, I used those as the outer dimensions) and I've drawn the current plan as accurately as I could based on your sketch. The two closets upstairs closets are admittedly very very small but for a vacation house, small closets might be okay. And you don't have to go thru one bedroom to reach the other plus both upstairs bedrooms have a place for the bed. This is sketched with a 42 inch wide staircase with enough risers to for a 10 ft floor to floor rise. The plant shelf at the bend in the stairs, along with windows allowing light into the staircase, should make the staircase feel nice and spacious. Downstairs, this gives you a nice sized laundry room with room for some storage space under the stairs. Unfortunately, given the slope at the back of your house, the laundry wouldn't get any natural light unless you could put in a window well or maybe install some solar tubes. I've shown a normal sized dining room table for six. The space around the dining table is pretty tight but I think it would work. In order to keep the path to the staircase open, you would not be able to center the dining table in the room so an alternative might be to have a bench seating for 1/2 the table built-in against wall next to the bathroom. That way the table wouldn't require as much width in the admittedly small dining room space. I went back and forth about where to put the door leading into the laundry. You'd have more useable storage space if the door were over next to the door leading from laundry to mech room. But then you would always have to be working your way clear around the table to get to the laundry room so I think this is probably better. An alternative design might be to switch the laundry and mech rooms which would allow you to have a window in the laundry room (nice) but would force you to access it via the downstairs bathroom which isn't so great. There might be another alternatives swapping the laundry and mech room AND putting in a hallway leading from living room to laundry room if you were willing to tear out and completely redo the downstairs bath...but I'm guessing that a bathroom renovation is not in your anticipated budget. Finally, I think this would allow you to have small pantry which you desperately need and it blocks the view from the kitchen into the bathroom. Let me know what you think....See MoreHow to make my LR cozy?
Comments (148)Kelly - "That room screams for some bold blacks, more stuff on the walls and tables" Do you just mean different tables? I love black. The paisley on the furniture makes me afraid to put any other pattern with it. I thought the rule was if it's large or smaller and has the same color it can work but nothing seems to look right with it. A poster here that I haven't seen or heard from (hope she's ok) for a long time sent me photos of her neighbor's house. I would love to post a photo of that family room but I promised I wouldn't. They have a huge basket with blankets beside the couch and it looks really good. I love the whole room. All those pictures you posted look cozy to me except the last one. I would have to edit some of the stuff out of them to live there though. Hmm.. The first picture I posted from the book I don't think looks like it has tons of stuff. I wanted to add, I know I said I liked your lamp in the photo I posted but I really like your whole room. Very cozy looking. Alex - LOL Granny-punk. I'm not granny but I'm not punk either. I look and dress what is considered norm. Just so nobody's wondering. ;) That is hilarious though. While I like the pictures Kelly posted they are too full of too much for me. Interesting observation about what we like and what works for us. There has to be a happy medium. Are you who I'm thinking of? Didn't you post a photo of yourself on the conversation side a year or so ago with your DH? If so, I would've never guessed you were 40. I figured we were close to the same age. I bet we'd have a blast! Bronwynsmom............ where are you? :( Did you abort mission? This thread's soon going to kill off....See MoreNoob attempts kitchen layout
Comments (63)I like your plan. I think glass is pretty easy to clean and you will have a hood, so not too worried about your cooktop there unless you fry stuff in grease and let it splatter all over constantly! We only had a painted BS behind the range in our original kitchen and a wipe once in a while was fine. You certainly have to balance things you can't have everything perfect when doing a remodel because of existing constraints! We are in the midst of our kitchen remodel right now. We have a small kitchen but opened up the wall to the dining/living area and removed the counter under the window in order to gain drawer space and walking space, moved the sink to the peninsula. A peninsula is another option for you but I think your wall of fridge/ovens looks good. I would fill that corner with full cabinets though and not have a recessed area that might be hard to reach (to the left of the ovens). Here is our original floor plan - approximated as it was not an Ikea kitchen. The wall at the top had a "pass through" window to DR, the fridge was awkwardly placed in the middle of the wall and DW right next to it (more dead space than shown here with Ikea cabinets, no super susans) and the range was right next to the doorway with the light switch above it! Opening any appliance meant no one else could walk around in the room. This is the new layout for our Ikea kitchen, after much guidance from this forum. We also considered cooktop on the peninsula but we decided against it not only due to the visual interference of the hood, but because DH was worried our cats - who are not allowed on the counters but are occasionally naughty - might jump up there and get burned or cause an accident... and when we entertain we use that area as a "buffet" and even with the cooktop not in use we worried that guests settling down dishes etc might crack the cooktop by being careless. So instead, at somewhat increased expense due to labor (we are on concrete slab) we moved the sink and DW to the peninsula and I think we will be very happy with this layout. When we entertain, dirty dishes can be easily loaded into the DW right from the peninsula. The range will be safely off to the side, and we have a great food storage wall with pantries/fridge. The floorplan doesn't show but we will have an overhand toward the DR, the counter will be 36" on the peninsula but no cabinets on that side as 15" more was too much stolen from the DR....See MoreWhat to do with nook in front of sliding glass door?
Comments (12)@Judy Graham You're correct - we have a builder that does both custom and production homes, and who sells himself as semi-custom for this development, but due to the current real estate frenzy they've basically said no to most changes. We tried the custom route last year - designed and bid a home - and discovered (as you noted) that our house was too expensive for us to build, so that's why we're going this route. Sacrifices must be made I suppose! I will consider putting nothing there, but I do like the idea of another sitting area... @Hannah Wolfson bookshelves are really intriguing! We'll only have 18" on each side so it might look cramped but it's something I could draw up......See Moreerinsean
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