Meader hardy kiwi...fruit bearing, or non-bearing male???
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Comments (11)parfait, I responded to your query added on to a running discussion at the Edible Landscaping forum; don't know if you saw that or not. Here 'tis again: The original name for Nikita's Gift is Nikitiskaya Bordovaya(NB), or which loosely translated, means burgundy of Nikita Gardens. It is a daughter of Rosseyanka(D.virginianaXkaki hybrid, aka Russian Beauty) back-crossed to kaki - so, it is 3/4 D.kaki. I've grafted Nikita's Gift a couple of times, but it hasn't survived here - should be OK here in southern KY, and for you in a z6/7 setting, but I think my scionwood was damaged, which may account for failures here; it sustains significant winter damage at Terre Haute, IN. NB's parent, Rosseyanka, in my orchard, is very late maturing, and mostly seedless(despite native males and at least one kaki that produces some staminate flowers) - but can be peeled, sliced and dried while still firm - and loses its astringency in the process; or, you can leave them on the tree until fully ripe. Fruits are more reminiscent of an astringent-til-ripe kaki than the typical virginiana - thicker skin that contains the soft, gelatinous pulp. Holds well on the tree - I have to pull or cut the fruit from the branches. Personally, I think most of my virginiana cultivars taste better. Jerry Lehman, at Terre Haute, says that Nikita's Gift is larger fruiting than Rosseyanka, has nice red color, earlier ripening - and is delicious. I would anticipate it's likely mostly seedless, as well. Meader - if there are any native males around, will likely be fully seeded, and not remarkably better/different than most native D.virginianas. It's a nice persimmon, not a great persimmon - just one that's widely propagated and distributed by a number of nurseries. If you can find Early Golden, Yates(Juhl), or Prok, they're a better choice. I like Saijo, an astringent-'til-ripe kaki....See MoreHardy vs. Arctic Kiwi
Comments (17)skyjs,how do the arctic perform for you? I see alot of posters on here from zone8 and higher giving up on them because they just don't seem to survive for them(too much heat/sun maybe?) Capoman,the pics I posted earlier are them just budding out.If you look closely you can see the little flower balls forming.See the link below for a picture I took last year and you can see what they look like mid summer.As far as soil PH...well I have never taken my soil to get tested.I can say that I have wild blueberries on my property and have named high bush varieties which do well(Although I do give more love to my high bush berries and give them peat moss and fertilizer for acid loving plants). But the funny thing is, is that the kiwi in the pics is growing in 6 to 8 inches of pure well rotted horse manure.When I built our new deck a few years ago, I made a 4'x8' box frame out of 2"x 8" hemlock ,dug out all the native soil and started hauling trailer loads of manure from my neighbors farm.Filled the box up and plopped the little kiwis in.They grow a lot more vigorously than any of the other kolomikta on my property and just about as vigorous as the argutas.As I stated in an earlier post,I have no dieback on them even though I "over fertilize them".At the same time I took some of that manure and just top dressed the soil around a few argutas to see what would happen,and man they grew ,and grew and grew and didn't stop until frost nuked them in the fall.It seemed like all the super growth they put on didn't know when to harden off so most of it died back anyway(about 8-10 feet)!It was a very good lesson for me. Here is a link that might be useful: http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fruit/msg091538118923.html...See MoreHardy / Arctic Kiwi?
Comments (3)Most Actinidia are earlier bearing than hardy kiwi, A. arguta, and some argutas are earlier than others. Most of the "too long to bear" issues with argutas is related to late spring frost. If that is not an issue for you, then they will likely start to bloom in 2-3 years. My kolomiktas and Issai were all quick to bloom-all bloomed the year after planting. The fuzzy kiwis have not been hardy for me, but the A. chinensis (yellow kiwis) seem to be fairly quick, 2-3 years even from seed, and one year when grafted to an established rootstock. They are very vigorous, so they get big really quickly. Even though they have a huge leaf surface area, I have found them to be very tolerant of hot dry weather without any watering. My argutas wilt under the same conditions even with lots of watering, even though they only have a fraction of the leaf surface area. I typically get 50-60 inches of rain per year, so drought tolerance and water needs are relative. With your mild summer temps, I don't expect that you would have any problems. You can probably grow most types of kiwi if you plan to water them well. Most have low chill requirements. Some of the fuzzy kiwi like 'Hayward', are said to need about 800 chill hours, but there are many low chill varieties as well that would work for you....See MoreHardy Carefree Fruits and Nuts For Z4
Comments (29)I'm trying to figure out the best fruit trees to plant in my backyard in Minneapolis. Besides a dwarf honeycrisp, I'm considering plum, cherry, apricot, peach, & crabapple. Here are the features I'm looking for: * showy flowers in the spring * doesn't get too big (small backyard) * self-pollinating preferably so I don't need 2 of each * good tasting fruit, maybe even right off the tree? * maybe a crabapple with fruit I could collect to make wine What are you favorites? Which ones have been most reliable and good to eat? Thanks!...See Moreskier2528
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